New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

ttystikk said:

Light movers help point sources of light such as big wattage HID lights spread their intensity over a wider area. Don't try and move them very far or you'll just end up with insufficient lighting everywhere.

Honestly, saving your money and getting COB LED will be a better solution because they do this without needing such equipment. It's one reason they give better results with less watts.

In fact, MA has already passed placeholder legislation to enact higher efficiency requirements for Cannabis production. Here in my city in Colorado, it's already against city ordinance to use HID lighting indoors for safety reasons. They're tired of fighting house fires caused by morons using them irresponsibly.

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I think our law only applies to commercial growers.

@ttystikk
I already have a 42" 12 COB fixture that I built so I could either move that 2 feet side to side or add another 4 cobs and only move it 1 foot with great dispersion over the canopy and 56 - 60% efficiency. With the 4th bar I'd be running at about 142K lumens and 800w at the wall

Dats said:

I think our law only applies to commercial growers.

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Your adventure in legalization is young yet.

I'm just telling you what's already happened here so it isn't a big surprise there.

Bosgrower said:

@ttystikk
I already have a 42" 12 COB fixture that I built so I could either move that 2 feet side to side or add another 4 cobs and only move it 1 foot with great dispersion over the canopy and 56 - 60% efficiency. With the 4th bar I'd be running at about 142K lumens and 800w at the wall

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With your lighting already well spread out I don't see how moving it would gain you anything at all. Just keep buying more LED fixtures for the space you need.

From a purely theoretical perspective it seems both more economical and efficient to move 16 cobs over the space instead of running 20 cobs. Using a pause at each terminus to account for the lack of a double pass, it seems like it would be a worthwhile sonfiguration

Bosgrower said:

From a purely theoretical perspective it seems both more economical and efficient to move 16 cobs over the space instead of running 20 cobs. Using a pause at each terminus to account for the lack of a double pass, it seems like it would be a worthwhile sonfiguration

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It's more mechanical complexity, more shit to go wrong, a small chance of catastrophic failure like falling on your plants- and your COB LED array is already distributing the light as well or better anyway. So questionable gains for substantial additional expense and complication.

I've run light movers, so I'm speaking from experience. It's your grow, do as you like but since you asked for my advice I'm just giving it to you straight, growther!

Here's one I designed and built myself;

ttystikk said:

It's more mechanical complexity, more shit to go wrong, a small chance of catastrophic failure like falling on your plants- and your COB LED array is already distributing the light as well or better anyway. So questionable gains for substantial additional expense and complication.

I've run light movers, so I'm speaking from experience. It's your grow, do as you like but since you asked for my advice I'm just giving it to you straight, growther!

Here's one I designed and built myself;
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Hahahahaha that fucking light. Mover. Lmfao. Wtf

Please address me as Grasshopper

You get definite mcguyver points for that one. Plus a few rube goldbergs.

Hey so what's your thoughts on this set up DIY? Also anyone have the par for that ? Last but not least it's a def way to go I think..... To build it all myself. I think when ready I'll buy two of these kits. That should replace my light I would think. And in future I'll be able to run more and build more.
http://www.rapidled.com/cree-cxb3590-triple-cob-array-kit/

You'll save a lot ordering direct from Kingbrite in China

MrSeeDoubleU said:

Hey so what's your thoughts on this set up DIY? Also anyone have the par for that ? Last but not least it's a def way to go I think..... To build it all myself. I think when ready I'll buy two of these kits. That should replace my light I would think. And in future I'll be able to run more and build more.
http://www.rapidled.com/cree-cxb3590-triple-cob-array-kit/

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you remind me of bob the builder. bob and his bag o weed. LMAO

JustCallmeMom said:

you remind me of bob the builder. bob and his bag o weed. LMAO

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Bob the builder is an amateur. I got yer build, right here!

ttystikk said:

Your adventure in legalization is young yet.

I'm just telling you what's already happened here so it isn't a big surprise there.

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I dont doubt you. But how would they know what lights I use in my house?

Do I have something to worry about? I pulled these off? Is that from the Nutes. To much like burns. It can be lights because it was a bottom feeders. That's why I'm thinking Nutes.

Dats said:

I dont doubt you. But how would they know what lights I use in my house?

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Ask ttystikk....

Also, some of the newer digital ballasts are really dirty from an rf standpoint, to the point they can cause cable companies to send out crews. Even shielded ones will send out rf that can probably be detected on a drive by with the right equipment. Now it's true they will "catch" a lot of aquarium enthusiasts, but if they put enough pieces together, like high power use, rf emissions, heat plumes, visits to the hydro store, lots of amazon prime deliveries, smell, whatever, THEN.... tag, your it.

Sure, they will issue a bunch of "my bad" apologies after fruitless home invasions, but they will get better at it. And what the heck, the people who are caught will pay such high fines that they will come out profitable in the end.

Remember, the Mass State Police are patterned after a military unit, not a law enforcement entity. Literally. Go to their website if you don't believe me.

Massachusetts has a reputation for being liberal. And in the past it was right down to the local level. But people got lazy and elected a bunch of conservatives to the state legislature just because they put a D next to their name. In most cases these butt heads run unopposed. It's happened across the country, funded by shady astro-turf orgs. We've fallen victim to root mites and we don't even know it yet.

Bosgrower said:

From a purely theoretical perspective it seems both more economical and efficient to move 16 cobs over the space instead of running 20 cobs. Using a pause at each terminus to account for the lack of a double pass, it seems like it would be a worthwhile sonfiguration

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You want to show us your design? I got COBs on the brain and I'd love to see what you have and do a price/eff analysis to get better at this.

MrSeeDoubleU said:

Hey so what's your thoughts on this set up DIY? Also anyone have the par for that ? Last but not least it's a def way to go I think..... To build it all myself. I think when ready I'll buy two of these kits. That should replace my light I would think. And in future I'll be able to run more and build more.
http://www.rapidled.com/cree-cxb3590-triple-cob-array-kit/

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What's your square footage and what driver are you choosing for it?

Cobs were on my brain until Quantum came out. They will be on my brain until the next thing comes out.

Right now, if I had to replace lights, it would be with QB, not Cobs. But I have a small grow space and only need (hid equiv) 400w for flower ..

I'm waiting for a couple full grows to come out of those to see what they do before I start playing with them. I'm super interested in watching comparison growing with them, vs COBs and HID.