!!!!!!never Accept The Vchip!!!!!!!

ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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yelodrvr said:
ok i will agree some of you make some good points. but this is not one of them:

"but to try and prevent world domination and try and keep our constitutional rights"

how would this chip contribute to "world domination" that would never happen. not with humans evolved in the process. hell we cant even dominate the earth, and all the natural resources let alone the control the population of the world. its been tried before and failed history proves this over and over. come on the U.S.A. has been trying for since its inception.

as far as constitutional rights - dont get me started there. we where being stripped of them way before you even came out of the womb and recived that SS card.

i just think there are more important constitutional rights being stripped away everyday, and this goofy shit is just there to keep you distracted from the real issues, because again the technology has been there for ever and apparently you never even new it.

then again what do i know. if it was on CNN its got be true.:confused:
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Its evil because it can ultimately lead to total control. If you are targeted for whatever reason, they can manipulate you just with your Vchip. If a person decides, you can no longer buy or sell anything, that means no more getting eggs at walmart, your completely tracked-so no where to hide, all you are is in your chip.

With the North American Union possibility, it would be only a matter of time before all countries unite under a single government, and there will be a few who control the entire world. Man is to imperfect to rule over so many, we were not meant for our entire race to be governed by the few. Inevitably we will manifest our own demise.
 
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ZenMaster said:
Its evil because it can ultimately lead to total control. If you are targeted for whatever reason, they can manipulate you just with your Vchip. If a person decides, you can no longer buy or sell anything, that means no more getting eggs at walmart, your completely tracked-so no where to hide, all you are is in your chip.

With the North American Union possibility, it would be only a matter of time before all countries unite under a single government, and there will be a few who control the entire world. Man is to imperfect to rule over so many, we were not meant for our entire race to be governed by the few. Inevitably we will manifest our own demise.
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hey!!!!! zen is on my side for once!!!!!:hug: that doesnt happen too many times :D

at least we agree upon this subject!!!

yelodrvr said:
deal i will watch them and get back to you.
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honestly i dont see why people comment on videos when they dont even watch them.. IT PISSES ME OFF!!!

why should i have to type/explain stuff when you just need to click a lick, watch and listen... if you want to debate after, than thats fine:mrgreen:
 
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We TaRdED

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its so crazy that we actually have to worry about this crazy shit!!! and whats crazier is that probably less than 1/10th the population doesnt know about this shit.

ohh ya, thanks for explaining and good words btw zen:mrgreen: +rep

ZenMaster said:
Its evil because it can ultimately lead to total control. If you are targeted for whatever reason, they can manipulate you just with your Vchip. If a person decides, you can no longer buy or sell anything, that means no more getting eggs at walmart, your completely tracked-so no where to hide, all you are is in your chip.

With the North American Union possibility, it would be only a matter of time before all countries unite under a single government, and there will be a few who control the entire world. Man is to imperfect to rule over so many, we were not meant for our entire race to be governed by the few. Inevitably we will manifest our own demise.
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pterzw

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ORECAL said:
did you watch the videos?
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hey ORECAL , yeah watched them .
It seems there are several types of chips and there are videos about some of them. This V-Chip is not some tracking device , its just some shit in a TV set.
But i would of course hate to carry the GPS chip on my body.
 
yelodrvr

yelodrvr

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We TaRdED said:
hey!!!!! zen is on my side for once!!!!!:hug: that doesnt happen too many times :D

at least we agree upon this subject!!!



honestly i dont see why people comment on videos when they dont even watch them.. IT PISSES ME OFF!!!

why should i have to type/explain stuff when you just need to click a lick, watch and listen... if you want to debate after, than thats fine:mrgreen:
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i don't have to watch the videos that were posted to know what going on. i have a tv, radio, computer, i heard of the chip before. i don't need a 2 hour amateur collage of videos to render a opinion. i dont need you or CNN, FOX, ABC to force feeding me the spin you want me to see.

i assumed this was some what of intelligent conversation. those usually work when both side discuss each opposing view, compare facts and maybe walk away with a better incite to the other half of the conversation. not being forced feed some spun propaganda, then stand by with mouth open and believe every word uttered by big conglomerate news organizations or some fool with editing software the spliced together a few news clips. that my friend would be WE tarded.:mrgreen:

one last thing. what have any of you explained to me. i have explained in detail how i think this chip could be a advantage. all i have heard from you all. is what was regurgitated in the videos. come one man. look back throught the thread. its nothing but tin foil hat headed folks screaming the sky is falling. not one solid fact posted yet.
 
yelodrvr

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again you all fail to see that this technology has been around forever. your damn cell phone is a tracking device. do i need to post 10 videos to show this to you. its no different than the v-chip in theory .even the throw aways cell phone are if there watching you. my point is if you doing something to get their attention, they dont need the v-chip to pay attention to you.

i know they are following me now. i think they following me. or is that you:confused:
 
ZenMaster

ZenMaster

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yelodrvr said:
again you all fail to see that this technology has been around forever. your damn cell phone is a tracking device. do i need to post 10 videos to show this to you. its no different than the v-chip in theory .even the throw aways cell phone are if there watching you. my point is if you doing something to get their attention, they dont need the v-chip to pay attention to you.

i know they are following me now. i think they following me. or is that you:confused:
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Its hard to fathom your point of view.

You must not have read my posts. Its going to evolve, the Vchip is just the beginning. The chip will be your credit card, (there will be no more cash) your tracking device, and you are going to at complete mercy to those in control. The human race will turn into cattle, easily controlled and if one poses a threat, easily neutralized.

We cannot trust ourselves with that kind of power. We are just people after all, and unfortunately, evil and greed are one of our contributing attributes.

Seriously man, they can just shut you down with a click of a mouse. You would starve to death, you couldn't even enter any buildings because your chip won't work, and you sure as hell can't buy anything. Your car won't start because its locked down. They can make you do anything they want with that kind of threat.

It is the sign of the beast.
  • [SIZE=-0]Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-0]Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=-0]Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)[/SIZE]
 
medicineman

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ZenMaster said:
Its hard to fathom your point of view.

You must not have read my posts. Its going to evolve, the Vchip is just the beginning. The chip will be your credit card, (there will be no more cash) your tracking device, and you are going to at complete mercy to those in control. The human race will turn into cattle, easily controlled and if one poses a threat, easily neutralized.

We cannot trust ourselves with that kind of power. We are just people after all, and unfortunately, evil and greed are one of our contributing attributes.

Seriously man, they can just shut you down with a click of a mouse. You would starve to death, you couldn't even enter any buildings because your chip won't work, and you sure as hell can't buy anything. Your car won't start because its locked down. They can make you do anything they want with that kind of threat.

It is the sign of the beast.
  • [SIZE=+0]Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0]Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)[/SIZE]
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Yeeehaw, get out the pitchforks, lets storm the Bastille.
 
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We TaRdED

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yelodrvr said:
again you all fail to see that this technology has

been around forever. your damn cell phone is a tracking device. do i need

to post 10 videos to show this to you. its no different than the v-chip in

theory .even the throw aways cell phone are if there watching you. my

point is if you doing something to get their attention, they dont need the

v-chip to pay attention to you.



i know they are following me now. i think they following me. or is that you:confused:
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lmao, ohh shit, this is very funny!!! let me try and explain....

THEY WANT TO IMPLANT A FUCKING TRACKING DEVICE WITH ALL OF OUR "MONEY"/CREDIT INTO OUR SKIN!!!

No offense :D

basically its crazy shit!!! zen has already explained some of the key

reasons and i have to concur with everything he has said!



ok, its almost like this- say you have a big farm and need lots of cheap

labor to make yourself utterly rich/powerful(your trying to buy out other

competing farms to create a monopoly). so you bought some ignorant

slaves somehow and you make them wear an proximity explosive device

around a tight necklace that wont come off. if your slave try to escape

your concentration camp he will be blown up into many pieces.


also, you give them enough credit per day so they can purchase food, and

pay for room and board. you pay them 15 dollars/day, 5 which has to pay

for food, and 10 for room and board each day... they net 0 dollars/day

after its all said and done.



furthermore, if your slave caused a scene, distracted others from working,

wasnt working as hard as he/she should, etc, you could hold the slaves

pay and let them go without food and shelter for a day and make them

sleep outside in the cold(remember this person has a explosive device

around his neck so he would never dare to leave unless he had a death

wish).

i could go on but i think you get my point and i dont feel like writing a book

here. this slave thing seems sick and malicious and at this day and age

would never happen right? wrong, some people are still sick, twisted,

power hungry, and are looking for more ways to get slaves back.



what makes you think that people have changed in the last three hundred

years or w/e? yes, its widely accepted that slaves and slave trade is

wrong, BUT WHAT IF IT TOOK ON A DIFFERENT FORM?



also, what if your rich and had lots of credit on your vchip in your arm. your

buddy then loses his job for w/e reason and causes a scene because he

protested against something and then all his credit on his vchip is gone..

he still needs to feed his family, he knows you have lots of credit in your

little vchip in your hand there. he waits till you are sleeping and ..... you

get the point. I guarantee that this will happen- people will be cutting

others hands off.

WHAT EVERY HAPPENED TO WE THE PEOPLE? THEY CANT DO ANYTHING TO

US IF WE THE PEOPLE ALL COME TOGETHER AND TELL THEM TO FUCK

OFF.. WHY WOLD CERTAIN STATES TELL THE FED GOV TO SHOVE THEIR

"REAL ID" UP THERE ASS? HOW COME OUR DRIVERS LICENSES ISNT

ENOUGH?

the reason why im so adamant about this whole thing is because the

general populace needs to be educated on the subject, other wise we

might think this thing is kool and will benefit us, because they have ppl on tv

saying "i would love to have something implanted in my arm" or "because of

911, i feel my children are endangered and would like to have a tracking

device on them. plus it would act as parental control on the tv"....

anyways, end of rant:mrgreen:
 
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and why do you think we had to implement min wage? because some employers would like to pay people the bare min because they simply dont have high regards for others lives... sad but true.
 
yelodrvr

yelodrvr

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ZenMaster said:
Its hard to fathom your point of view.

You must not have read my posts. Its going to evolve, the Vchip is just the beginning. The chip will be your credit card, (there will be no more cash) your tracking device, and you are going to at complete mercy to those in control. The human race will turn into cattle, easily controlled and if one poses a threat, easily neutralized.

We cannot trust ourselves with that kind of power. We are just people after all, and unfortunately, evil and greed are one of our contributing attributes.

Seriously man, they can just shut you down with a click of a mouse. You would starve to death, you couldn't even enter any buildings because your chip won't work, and you sure as hell can't buy anything. Your car won't start because its locked down. They can make you do anything they want with that kind of threat.

It is the sign of the beast.
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all this can happen right now. DEA, IRS, hell the EPA or health dept can cripple a person or business. any arm of the police can seize your accounts and do everything you just described. dont you watch law and order. lol

as far as the o mighty $. hell the vid someone suggested, confirmed that the U.S. $ is nothing more than a piece of paper and been that way your centuries.

so again i tell you IMHO all that you are fearing is already in place been in place before you ever even new the tin foil hat would protect you. (just a little humor not trying to offend):mrgreen:

so the fact that this technology that already exist, and been in use for a long time. what is it going to hurt to use it to keep track of the predators, criminals, and govern over our police. and have my damn coffee ready when i get out of the shower. lol

you keep saying it will do this and this. all that has already happened and is happening everyday. its a mute point.

take the internet for example. before joe pud whacker new about the porn that was available on the net. it had been around for a long time. my understanding of it. is that it started as a military communication operation, to advert communication break down over short wave radios. (unless you listen to al gore) now look i get my porn in 2.2 seconds with 1,233,434,544 sites to chose from. isn't technology great. learn it, love it, use it for personal gain. its the American way. and relax unless you out to destroy us all or block the access to the real currency of the U.S. oil, they are not going to bother with average joe.
 
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We TaRdED

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yelodrvr said:
all this can happen right now. DEA, IRS, hell the EPA or health dept can cripple a person or business. any arm of the police can seize your accounts and do everything you just described. dont you watch law and order. lol

as far as the o mighty $. hell the vid someone suggested, confirmed that the U.S. $ is nothing more than a piece of paper and been that way your centuries.

so again i tell you IMHO all that you are fearing is already in place been in place before you ever even new the tin foil hat would protect you. (just a little humor not trying to offend):mrgreen:

so the fact that this technology that already exist, and been in use for a long time. what is it going to hurt to use it to keep track of the predators, criminals, and govern over our police. and have my damn coffee ready when i get out of the shower. lol

you keep saying it will do this and this. all that has already happened and is happening everyday. its a mute point.

take the internet for example. before joe pud whacker new about the porn that was available on the net. it had been around for a long time. my understanding of it. is that it started as a military communication operation, to advert communication break down over short wave radios. (unless you listen to al gore) now look i get my porn in 2.2 seconds with 1,233,434,544 sites to chose from. isn't technology great. learn it, love it, use it for personal gain. its the American way. and relax unless you out to destroy us all or block the access to the real currency of the U.S. oil, they are not going to bother with average joe.
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watch them start to tax us more because of w/e reason... what if we have this vchip implanted and than they say

"our country is in severe debt and we need your money to help, blah blah blah... we're going to increase the tax on everyone that is making over 100k/year to 50% of their net income and 40% for anyone making less!!!"

now what is the average joe supposed to do? if he makes a protest by himself then his chip will be turned off and basically he will have to survive in the woods.

DUDE, IT WOULD BE A WAY TO ENSLAVE PEOPLE.... DONT YOU SEE?

we will basically be giving them the power to an easier access to shut off

our money supply, just turn off the chip... wtf dont you get? come on

dude, open your eyes.... you know what, nm, im sorry, go ahead and sign

up your whole family!! have everyone get this chip, as long as your family

are perfect citizens and comply with the law, you guys will have nothing to

worry about... but just remember, if the law is trying to stick it in your ass,

maybe increase taxes or w/e, then you still have to be perfect citizens or

else jeopardize your money/credit/life!!!
 
yelodrvr

yelodrvr

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We TaRdED said:
THEY WANT TO IMPLANT A FUCKING TRACKING DEVICE WITH ALL OF OUR "MONEY"/CREDIT INTO OUR SKIN!!!
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good now i wont have to carry the damn thing in my pocket any more, or leave it at home.

as far as the rest of your story. sound like a pretty good science fiction novel. you should put it on paper. chopping off arms and shit. come on. ever heard of armed robbery? no pun intended. again all this already happens every day. you are proving my point for me.

how can you folks quote scripture and then be scared of something you think is there to control you. Jesus Christ that the biggest oxymoron i have ever heard. pun intended.:mrgreen:
 
yelodrvr

yelodrvr

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"our country is in severe debt and we need your money to help, blah blah blah... we're going to increase the tax on everyone that is making over 100k/year to 50% of their net income and 40% for anyone making less!!!"

they do it every year. holy shit man. my property taxes went up by $500 this year, because the public school (another from of government control just like the chip) needed more money. i send my kids to private schools. why should i have to help supports public schools. so i your opinion i stop paying taxes. WRONG, no i gladly pay my taxes. why because i feel all children need a education even if it government sanctioned.
 
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i guess what i think the implications of the chip are this

IT GIVES THE GOVERNMENT MORE CONTROL OF OUR PERSONAL LIVES!!!
the gov is supposed to protect and serve us, not track our every move just to protect us from "terrorists"....

idk man, your right... we should all just hand over our money, privacy, country (when we join with the mexicans and canadians, aka the north american union.), constitutional rights-because of the latter, and be utterly compliant with the new world order:mrgreen:

i think it was back in the 1930's that the american gov took away all the peoples gold and exchanged it for dollars. if the populace didnt turn in their gold they would be thrown in jail.. the gov paid them i think less than 15 dollars/oz..... how is that protecting and serving the people?

now picture if we had the vchips implanted in us? they could do anything they wanted because they could just threaten us of turning off the vchips. and whos going to dictate who gets to turn off someones vchips.??? will the ordinary police officer have this godly power?
 
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