Mycorrhiza Fungi...why you should get to know them...

RudeBoy80 said:

i have a package of oreganism XL which contains this fungi. Im into the 3rd week of flower. Should i use it now or wait until next round? Anyone ever heard of this suff by aurora innovations? Oreganism XL? Thanks

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RudeBoy80..... The good news - it's not too late.... Use it as per the instructions on the package.... introducing these fungi / bacteria into your grow medium will help your plants reach their maximum potential.....
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I'd use them now, and at week 5. Then discountinue using them, since you will have a good population established, with two treatments. No need wasting them.
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Keep it Real....Organic....

I found this, click on the more about fungi under the picture of the bottle.

http://www.bustan.ca/product_detail.asp?menuID=21&SID=83&PID=624#

SimpleSimpon...... I was fairly stoned the first time I looked, then it hit me " Key Words " directly below pic. Then I got it.
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http://www.bustan.ca/pdfUpload/microbe-efs.pdf
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Here is the link you are referring too - I thought I should put it on, in case someone else is as stoned as I was when they click your link & forget the instructions. LOL...
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Keep it Real...Organic...

i think osho has the dudeness of the DUDE and from all the posts ive been reading he is the dudest dude on RIU!! i know ive been abit lost mr osho! i have followed your advice however and my 8 day old baby looks fucking good!!! im in europe so i dont get the brands u state have to look up and see if i can find something with these properties here!!1 couldnt resist giving you the +rep you deserve!!!

Good info in here, this deserves another bump!

Hey I'm using roots Organics soil with happy frog dry all purpose 5-5-5 for veg and beginning of flower. For flowering I use spikes of HP bulb food 3-8-8 around the edges of the container. I also use FF big bloom throughout. I've read a lot of the Rev in skunk mag. He says using phosphorus throughout your soil mix piss's off your mycro life and recommends keeping it in layers or pockets. Right now I'm wondering if I should get some more spt or if my other sources are enough? Yea thanks for all the info. Keepin it real..... Organic.

vtguy420 said:

Hey I'm using roots Organics soil with happy frog dry all purpose 5-5-5 for veg and beginning of flower. For flowering I use spikes of HP bulb food 3-8-8 around the edges of the container. I also use FF big bloom throughout. I've read a lot of the Rev in skunk mag. He says using phosphorus throughout your soil mix piss's off your mycro life and recommends keeping it in layers or pockets. Right now I'm wondering if I should get some more spt or if my other sources are enough? Yea thanks for all the info. Keepin it real..... Organic.

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I know someone that uses Happy frog soil, and the happy frog tomato and vegetble 7-4-5 in veg, than in flower they use happy frog fruit and flower 5-8-4 with really nice results (for how easy it is)

If I bubble tab water for 24 hours. Then add a tea with mycro's, will they live in tap water?

Age Old Organics has a good line of organic ferts & supplements. Including a water soluble mycorrhizae that I've used in my garden for years. Fantastic stuff. A tad spendy.... but worth it.

knnthc93 said:

If I bubble tab water for 24 hours. Then add a tea with mycro's, will they live in tap water?

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id go for 72 to be safe

If using chemical ferts are they useless. I bought a myco mix from kelp4less. Do you know if its worth adding a myco tea once a week while feeding chemically growing in coco coir.
Oh I also bought a 50/50 humic fulvic mix should I combine these with myco mix.

The chem nutes would kill the mycros

Dang waste of money I guess. I'll probally still dump it on um.

so how much sugar should be used for 2 liters

so how much sugar should be used for 2 liters?

i use 4 table spoons per gallon of molasses

I have subculture-b, I was totally oblivious that there was a subculture-m. Can anyone give me the name of a good all in one inoculate?

GreenGro, OregonismXL, Great White, there are many, many, choose one with the highest diversity of microbes, opt for whole spores over propagules if you can, and they can get pricey so remember they do reproduce in the root zone. I also doubt that the liquid ones can stay viable in liquid form on the shelf forever. I think GH messed up with separating the B and M for user friendlyness. However it does show that they understand the bacteria can dominate too much with a simultaneous inoculation. GH says to basically give the M a (three week or so? been awhile since I used it) head start before the B gets a chance at colonizing every niche. The GH stuff rocks out tho, 1 week and you will be able to transplant up again if I remember right. IMO M/B is pricey but you get good benefits for the $.

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Chookface..... Yes, Sub-Culture is a decent amendment. I've noticed they now sell it in a Myco fungi only mix & a Good Bacteria only mix. Hmmmm......
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GH sures knows how to make a buck. They break everything down to lot's of parts - so they can make lot's of dough - selling you all the parts.
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Myco Magic, Plant Sucess and Super Plant Tonic are probably better choices. They come fully assembled. Not parts & parts with more parts available for a buck.
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If Sub-Culture is all you have access to - get it - any micro-beasties - wheter they be fungi or bacteria - will benefit your plants.
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Keep it Real...Organic......
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yo ohso lol...
mycos are great not going to deny that but you did say something which upset me a little.

"GH sures knows how to make a buck. They break everything down to lot's of parts - so they can make lot's of dough - selling you all the parts."

this is actually not true of gh at all. look at there product range. flora nova. one bottle for grow one for bloom... no more 2 or 3 part formulas and its cheap and works great.
floralicious plus. this is like a super additive. it has everything, kelp sea weed, high carb proteins humic plus just about everything else that would come in about ten bottles from other companies.

same with florablend its a vegan tea and has many components liek being a zyme etc that would be broken down to 2-3 bottles by other companies.

and koolbloom for flower. other companies have 2 or 3 bloom boosters for different stages and none of them seem to work quite as well as the ol kool bloom.

i love my gh, plus its mostly organic even the flora nova is a organic synthetic mix

im sure if they split the 2 they have there reasons.

GH is legit IMO. Totally agreed that Floralicious plus is an awesome super concentrated organic all in one. To me they have a product for everyone, full spectrum if you will, except 100% organic folks. That is what I am waiting for, but I am not holding my breath. Like many of us on the organic threads I still use bottled products but have learned that they are not necessary and am working towards true 100% living organics. Gardening with meals, AACT(microbes), molasses, and mycos is simple, cheap and effective.

Anyway back to my GH tangent... Their spectrum goes from cheap simple 3 part synth Flora Series all the way to GO. GO is not 100% organic (synth micros and probably chelation) although the line is called General "Organics" (General Organics-based would have been more accurate IMO). So its not 100% organic and to add more confusion they market it as vegan (which it is except for BioMarine, but so is their synth stuff). To me I could care less if nutes are vegan unless we are talking about actual veganics = BOTH plant based AND 100% organic which some do strive for and is a legit sub-realm of true living organics. The GO marketing is my main diss on GH.

PS I did a side by side with subs agent orange GO vs AACT and living organic tea yielded more and tasted better IMO. Pics are posted on here in a few threads.

That said they are a company based in canna-mecca Cali and now GH Europe has research greenhouses in all the Euro meccas. I trust that they do their research and break things down for soild reasons in addition to "making a buck". My recommendation is to do your own research and cross reference that with any company's advice, feed chart, articles, brochures etc. A little critical thinking can save you a lot of cash at the hype filled grow shops these days. I have used all of their 'organic' offerings and they are solid gardening products that grow great meds, I always pass on any company's synth offerings in my garden though.