My Outdoor Garden-2010

CAashtree

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tiger poo...brand new niche market. with the seeds - i have about 50. all i need is a 2% success rate, but they have been in a garage for the past 20 years. hope 2% isnt reaching considering the temp swings those poor things have been through. im looking into gibberelic acid as an aid to germing as well.
 

veggiegardener

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tiger poo...brand new niche market. with the seeds - i have about 50. all i need is a 2% success rate, but they have been in a garage for the past 20 years. hope 2% isnt reaching considering the temp swings those poor things have been through. im looking into gibberelic acid as an aid to germing as well.
I read somewhere that someone was marketing Tiger poop, etc. The important thing is freshness. Animals can judge the age of droppings by smell. I think the ad might have been in High Times.

The mighty hunter, pictured below.
 

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veggiegardener

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LOL!

The nice thing about him and the three others is that they place their droppings in the garden without my help! Kinda like "autostink".
 

slabhead

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Talking about cattle reminds me of a friend who'd lost a crop when a rancher let his cattle into a previously unused field where he had a bunch of plants. His plants were scattered throughout a huge stand of willows along a local waterway. Those steers found every plant and munched them thoroughly.

The friend told me about the disaster and asked about remedies. Half kidding, I suggested he go to the Zoo and request lion and tiger droppings. I'd heard, many years before that all herbivores will avoid such smells.

Turned out my friend had a family member who was an assistant Zoo Keeper. He took buckets of Big Cat poop out to his spot, the following Spring, and through the summer.

It WORKED! Not a single plant was bothered.

The plants pictured in Post #45 were matured in the Spring for seeds, and revegged naturally. A couple pix of the same group of plants in the Fall.


Oh yeah veggiegardener, that's much better. Well it's good to have you here at RIU. :leaf: I'm definitely gonna be watching your grow, slabhead
 

CAashtree

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were overrun by red squirrels here. dont think theyll do much to the herb, but before i got my dogs they used to dig holes and plant acorns everywhere in the garden. now they just sit on the wires, cussing the dogs and throwing stuff at em. kinda funny, unless youre trying to sleep in. my stupid cat on the other hand really likes to eat shade leaves. maybe shes not so stupid after all...
 

veggiegardener

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I grow catnip each year. Given the option, the felines will eat catnip and sleep it off under the Cannabis!

The cat pictured below is "Fuzzy" for obvious reasons. His hammock is actually a piece of plastic I put up under a peach tree to give me a spot of shade.
 

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CAashtree

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i guess its all about planting something theyll like more...the dogs dug stuff up until i started planting radishes for them! its crazy, they love em. theyll eat the greens, roots stems and flowers. i just have to constantly be seeding the patch or they get pissed.
 

CAashtree

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one of ours will decimate tomatos. gotta keep em behind a fence though, cuz she'll eat green ones too and barf all over the place. color vision rocks.
 

slabhead

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veggiegardener, I had a Violator Kush seed that hadn't sprouted after 13 days so I pulled it up for inspection. I've never done that before but these beans cost me a lot of work. The seed was still rock hard and dark so I scratched it around the seam (the best I could) and accidentally scratched through a small spot on the side. <it twisted on me while scuffing it> That spot was very white and looked like it was a good seed so I put it in some water to watch it. I had written that seed off until reading your tek so there's new hope. :leaf:
 

veggiegardener

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13 days is a long time, but you never know...


Good luck!

A trick I've used for years when germinating seeds is to add a little Rootone to the water. Rootone contains a fungicide that seems to prevent the seed from rotting in cooler conditions.
 

BlackUp

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Hmm I know this is off topic but you seem like a man full of fun facts about growing cannabis lol. I want to clone the bottom 2 shoots off of each of the 20 plants I'll have. I tried cloning in one of those black trays toucan get from qalmart with the little circular pellets that u soak to expand. We took cuttings about 3-5 inches long at a 45 degree angle , dipped in water and then dipper into the rooting powder before we placed them into the little holes in the presoaked cubes. I thenput the top on with 2 little holes in it to prevent mold, misted once a day and kept them warm.. They just shriveled up and didn't root at ALL! What the hell did I do wrong :(
 

veggiegardener

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Your results sound a bit extreme. I've used the Jiffy 7 pellets with some success, but prefer using the 2.25" x 2.25" square peat pots with a fine textured potting soil. Although I don't clone very often, my success rate usually exceeds 80%.

When I take cuttings, I immediately submerge them in a clean bucket of cool(not cold) tap water. This allows the cuts to maximize their water content. I trim each cutting while submerged. I treat the trimmed cuts with the rooting compounds and then place them into the peat pots, making sure the stem reaches the bottom of the pot. Do each cut quickly!

Most importantly:

NEVER LET THE CUTS WILT!(If it wilts, it isn't getting enough water. Water more, or remove a leaf or two.)

A cutting must be able to support itself while making roots. Temperatures in the 75-80 degree range are best, in my experience. High humidity, tapering off over a month or so(less if the cuts begin to show new leaves, sooner). Good low temperature lighting. The more, the better.(heat kills clones, not light.)

Your hood sounded good. I usually offset it about an inch to allow CO2 rich air to slowly circulate.

Mist frequently to prevent drying, tapering off with the humidity.

I use Olivia's Rooting Gel and usually dip that in Rootone powder. As far as I know, Rootone is the only rooting product that contains a fungicide. I credit THAT with my continued cloning success. My Grandmother told me about Rootone, 25 years ago.(She is responsible for teaching me to garden, successfully, starting at age three. I was cloning Coleus and African Violets by the age of eight.)

A few no-no's.

1) Never fertilize unrooted cuttings! Once roots begin to show use a liquid fertilizer at 1/4 strength every other watering.

2) NEVER let the rooting medium dry out.

3) After the first two days, don't allow water to stand around the pellets/pots/rockwool cubes.

4) Don't leave too many leaves on each cut. Remember, the cut is getting water from stem tissue and leaves(if you are misting). You must balance the plant's ability to uptake water against leaf evaporation.

5) The cut will draw energy from its larger sun leaves. These will turn yellow and then die. LEAVE them until they are obviously used up and brown.

Once you see new leaf growth, the plant has roots. Move to a larger container, but water regularly. Not all rooted clones are able to support themselves, right away. They still need a bit of TLC.

If you don't think this addressed your problem, tell me more. We'll get it figured out.

A few pix on a sunny winter day...
 

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veggiegardener

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LOL!

Too much information?

I've been planning on doing a cloning tutorial for a couple years, but just haven't had a need for clones in that time.
 

BlackUp

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No That was exactly what I needed, perfect info. I'm goof to wait until day 10 flowering in a few months and try to clone 2 shoots off each plant nd I'll messag you and let you know how it's coming along. Once my grow gets a little farther in I'll probably be asking you for some valuable tips too lol thanks so much man
 
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