My Hempy Top 44 CFL Grow Journal

you shouldnt use a roller for your crop... roll that dankness with your hands!

Sweet program tho, and yeah if you give them 36 hours of darkness it will work like a charm, i did it, and highly recommend it, check my link- its all about the 36 i started it before i decided to do it- so there is before and after shots...

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/76790-36-hours-darkness-after-veg.html#post887625

OB Cron Kenobi said:

you shouldnt use a roller for your crop... roll that dankness with your hands!

Sweet program tho, and yeah if you give them 36 hours of darkness it will work like a charm, i did it, and highly recommend it, check my link- its all about the 36 i started it before i decided to do it- so there is before and after shots...

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/76790-36-hours-darkness-after-veg.html#post887625

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Thanks dude I've really been looking for something like that will check it tonight.

They are getting huge and I wasn't prepared for plants of this size... may have to just take and flower the ones that I've got. Clones don't appear to be responding well, they are pretty wilted and have red splotches except for one of them. Not sure what this means. If I had a brain I would have made 8 clones.

So I smoked a big blunt of my own stuff and I got to being reflective (uh oh)...

The clones... are dead. They aren't going anywhere. There is no fucking around it, they look like shit and let's face it:

1) WAY Wrong Temperature (too cold)
2) Wrong Humidity
3) Possibly wrong watering
4) Too much airflow

I DID IT WRONG. I know that things have to be done correctly and so far I thought I had learned from my first grow that this is a science and not a prayer. I did it wrong and for that I paid in clones.

Next week, I will get the stuff together and wall off a shelf on my bookshelf and set up the 2x15w grow tubes and correctly regulate humidity and temperature and take the clones from the moms at the right times and then we will have some brand new plants.

In the short term, these bitches are getting big... I don't know how big I am prepared for them to get... are they really going to grow like 3x as large in the first few weeks of flowering like I've read? I might have a problem then... is there a way to back off on the veggin' without hurting the plant at all?

Thanks to everyone who stops by and reads my log, much appreciated!

you can stop feeding N nutes, and potash will slow verticle growth, you could top, crack, or pinch them now... you could do LSTing of FIMING to slow verticle growth...

I think your fine, they dont necessarily grow 3x- you can expect to have 4-5 feet plants if you let them go with out topping and do a normal 4 mnth grow... Expect them to double in veg, triple is pushing it...

Get some pics and do the 36, its good for sexing them, as well as growing them- but if you topped tomorrow, waited a week, then put in darkness for 36- then went to flowering- i think you'd be golden...

Just my opinion, you look like your off to a good start tho...

Well, entirely without intending it my timer malfunctioned while I was away and they just got about 3 days of 95% darkness, they are definately responding to it... they are as healthy as ever and have a lot of new growth and I can see what will eventually be the sex characteristics showing.

3 clones are definately dead. One is still greenly, I think he may live and I will try to grow him up as I had planned, will get some experience with the HB's doing that for the next seed start.

So I guess the grow changed a bit, now we have 4 top 44 plants (44 days of flowering, supposedly) that are going to be on 12 on 12 off starting NOW with almost 4 days of darkness to kick it off - let's see what happens.

Pics when I get it sorted, need to move them to red light.

How do I "top" them? To be honest, I don't really know what 'topping' is exactly...

lol its cool, topping is just litterally cutting off the tops of them at a 45 degree angle. It causes the new growth to split in 2 or more, usually 2, colas insted of one massive one, it slows verticle growth, and is self inflicted stress. For a first time grow, I my self am not doing it- for the very reason that I want a low stress quality yield. With topping you can often get higher yields but varying arguments about quality vs. the same plant untopped have sparked debate... This will be something i experiment with my next grow, as my clones will be topped..

Topping seems almost to late for you- you are supposed to top last weeks of veg... Let it heal before flower.. Otherwise its almost an overload and can induce more stress- stress leads to hermies, hermies are plants that are female but have seeds because they wigged out basically, the seeds are worthless cause they havent been pollenized... Its a mess- you never want hermies, you will likely get them- everyone does it seems... but sinsimelia (i spelt that wrong i am high) is unseeded bud and it is higher in THC content. Buds stop producing thc to start producing seeds when pollinated or overly stressed. So we try to avoid that.

Get those pics going lol, bustin yo chops- been following blind for a while...
Hope my advise is to the point
OB

Thanks OB the replies are always appreciated, here are the new pics... I have got really fast at reconfiguring my grow op now (thankfully)

Kids (teens? lol) are under 8 23w CFL's or about 800 watts worth of incandescent lighting, as always within 1-3 inches. 6 are red and 2 are blue. All are hooded and I moved my mylar reflector into the flowering side.

The clone is under the other big hood with the 4 blue bulbs. I am going to xplant him to a bigger bucket tonight and we'll see what happens. I'm not too worried about losing it especially if I can learn from it. If that seems to go well I will offer half strength lucas formula GH nutrients this weekend. Target bucket will be 8" plant spa bucket with 4 or 5 to 1 or so perlite:vermiculite.

Can't believe it's come this far! This is just worlds apart from my mostly failed first grow [ mostly failed... puff puff puff ]

WOW!!!!!!!!

That one clone DEFINATELY rooted!!!! Nice big tender white roots, gorgeous! Hope it's a fem, going to veg em a week or so then it's flowering with the moms that never were.

And a double check proves me totally wrong and 2 others rooted too, gatta gem em in pots... damn dont have enough distilled........
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crunch time................ I guess I didn't know how to judge them, though one of them is basically rotted away

Edit: And 10 minutes later we have the attached photo... I had bearly enough substrate to make it happen for 3 of them including what was in the cups I am completely out of perlite filling the 8" as you see them with about 4-5:1 perl/verm.

I watered the other 2 with 1/2 strength lucas GH nutes, I figured if they have roots they can take food and 1/2 strength should be gentle enough, I lost my PH color card!!! grrr... it's just an aquarium kit though, was like 2 bucks and I'll get another tomorrow. I KNOW the vermiculite will screw with my PH some but honestly, I don't mind adjusting it. I filled all 3 pots until they flowed from the res. If I remember I will mark the water level in the res right on the thing daily until it's dry and see how much water it's going to take.

The substrate absorbs water very evenly, so much so that it doesn't seem to require much even water... a much easier growing medium to use than I had anticipated, it is very similar to soil. I plan to keep misting the babies daily.

As a note, my runtiest plant produced by far my strongest clone. Another note, one of the adults has some red in the stems, tomorrow I will properly PH everything.

Anyone used MG potting soil? I heard you don't have to offer MG nutrients in the water because there is plenty in the dirt... should I offer nutrients to the plants in soil? Can I use my GH nutes for that or should I use MG BLOOM? I have both mixed already.

good to see things are kicking it up a notch...

Get more photos, lol!

Ok fine twist my arm!

More coming

as promised... looks like i've picked up some sort of pest in that last shot

Leaves with 11 fronds? just look awesome... I can't convey how excited I am...

I think that flowering them is seeming like a better idea all the time. It will seriously cut down on the time to my first harvest and I think I've decided my next grow is going to be some other strain, something right into hempy buckets flowered from seed, some exotic types like Ice and Mango in the 'dro would be seriously awesome. I don't want a ton of plants and I don't have to have a ton of plants, but I can still have variety.

I am not a drug dealer and I am not doing this for profit. I am doing this to have enough to smoke and some to give away, I don't see pot as something that should be used to abuse society and take advantage of another persons desire to be happy... unfortunately though as it is illegal I understand that the people that do it desire to be compensated for the risk that they take, but that is not my focus in any way. I chose Top 44 because it was supposed to be easy to grow and it pretty much has been, but now that I have more experience and think I can handle something a little less robust there is no reason to be growing a commercial strain endlessly as clones when there are so many wicked plants out there waiting to be smoked.

Take your time with the grow. You always learn a lot with the first one. Be sure and get some clones. If space is limited move plants to a flower room one at atime. Space them out 2 or 3 weeks and you'll have a perpetual growth. Wait till you've dried a bud and smoked it. You might find you really like that strain. I lost a very good strain because I didn't think it was much good. It ended up some of the best weed I'd smoked and no clones!!!

fierybong said:

as promised... looks like i've picked up some sort of pest in that last shot

Leaves with 11 fronds? just look awesome... I can't convey how excited I am...

I think that flowering them is seeming like a better idea all the time. It will seriously cut down on the time to my first harvest and I think I've decided my next grow is going to be some other strain, something right into hempy buckets flowered from seed, some exotic types like Ice and Mango in the 'dro would be seriously awesome. I don't want a ton of plants and I don't have to have a ton of plants, but I can still have variety.

I am not a drug dealer and I am not doing this for profit. I am doing this to have enough to smoke and some to give away, I don't see pot as something that should be used to abuse society and take advantage of another persons desire to be happy... unfortunately though as it is illegal I understand that the people that do it desire to be compensated for the risk that they take, but that is not my focus in any way. I chose Top 44 because it was supposed to be easy to grow and it pretty much has been, but now that I have more experience and think I can handle something a little less robust there is no reason to be growing a commercial strain endlessly as clones when there are so many wicked plants out there waiting to be smoked.

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I agree, 100%, props!

and i bet your prime to flower if you want, but as i have said before and will say again, do 36 hrs of darkness before you begin flowering, it will show signs of sex soo much faster!!!

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/76790-36-hours-darkness-after-veg.html#post887625

thats one of my threads about it, lots of other links and before and after photos...

So, the building I live in was once upon a time before it's rebuilding slated as condemned.

This means that every 2-3 years we have to have a building inspector look the place over. Now, this guy is a 'state official' but is in no way law enforcement. However, I am pretty sure they are tattlers or MIGHT be and IF they are the risk is extremely great.

I plan on making the place immaculate and I have a few ideas... I might be perfectly ok... I will be present and lights out door shut oust in the air... last time the guy took one look at each room and said OK and left; what makes me nervous is that my room obviously smells like plants growing and probably to a virgin nose like someone's been smoking pot in it... I need to 100% mask any odor...

I have a few different solutions that I will combine but I am very interested in any tips.

Also, I know my rights... there is no way I have to let them do anything and they probably won't press it, I just... you know, want to eliminate any possible danger whatsoever. Thanks!

Oh and, pics in a few.

I came home to the first pic, watered and pretty quick was the second pic.

Without spending a lot of money... i say- sprays... but to be honest- you need to move em outdoors- or have a buddy with a big van come over to stash em in the back of... you gotta move the plants or you could get hella fucked!

IDK man, scary shit...

nice little setup man ..

I've decided that lights need to be on when I am home, so that the grow can be locked when I am away. I left the lights off today and will bring them up tomorrow night when I get home which will make 36 hours of total darkness; I have a feeling that when the lights malfunctioned before, they were just getting the pulse of whatever natural daylight is; this time though there is a light-tight env. for the 36.