Michigan Department of Agriculture and Weed

I'd like to play Devil's Advocate here.

Do you at any point see the Dept of Ag getting involved in our industry, I can.

I see a measly bureaucrate or sleazy politician thinking about using the Dept and their controls on the growers. Think about it.

If we operate as a business aren't we supposed to get a license to apply pesticides? People ingest our products, wouldn't that make it a potential issue here? Even how you store your pesticides falls under their purview. Imagine the recordkeeping standards they could invent for us.

It is my understanding is that the patient/caregivers list is to be confidential, but... I don't want to be on a list that could be used against me later. How secure do you think the confidentiality will be held? Is there any ramifications if they release the list?

I'm finding it hard to give them my name. It feels kinda like buyer's remorse, similar to when I bought my first home and my first new car.

GG

agricultural dept? maybe the state is making moves to control the buying and selling of the medical pot. also they could be getting into growing hemp for textiles and such. its hard to imagine an agriculture dept getting involved unless they plan on growing it

What I meant was, if we, as a business, applied pesticides on a plant that was meant for a patient we may have to abide by their bureaucratic rules. That would mean we would need to have a Pesticide License and if we stored pesticides we would have to do so in a manner that would conform to their rules. We might have to have some form of recordkeeping. We might have to have a license from the Dept. of Ag to grow.

The way I see the only reason we don't have to comply now is that they don't know who we are.

ive been a commercial crop farmer my whole life. the ag dept only requires a license to purchase pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers in large scale, you are not required to have a license to apply it to the plant. also, they do have laws on how you can and cant store fertilizers, pesticides and other chemicals...but....like most dept's the regulation is little to none. we have NEVER once had ANY kind of inspector on our farm checking shit out....its ridiculous. so if they did get involved i really dont see any down sides to it.

i really wish they would get involved in hemp though, michigan needs to let us farmers grow it.

cmt1984 said:

ive been a commercial crop farmer my whole life. the ag dept only requires a license to purchase pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers in large scale, you are not required to have a license to apply it to the plant. also, they do have laws on how you can and cant store fertilizers, pesticides and other chemicals...but....like most dept's the regulation is little to none. we have NEVER once had ANY kind of inspector on our farm checking shit out....its ridiculous. so if they did get involved i really dont see any down sides to it.

i really wish they would get involved in hemp though, michigan needs to let us farmers grow it.

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Thanks, I've been running through me head any reason that I can think of to not register with the state. Once on the list, always on the list. GG

Are you applying a lot of pesticides right now or typically? I'm guessing you're doing some outdoor work, otherwise I would suggest that there is another problem going on with your op.

Interesting topic but I don't use pesticides - Does the ag department look at people who use only neem oil based stuff cause that is all you really need for mj especially indoors, our pesticides are not dangerous like the ones they use for other plants.....I have found just hotshot pest strips in my veg room and at the entrance to my flower room does wonders.

i recently heard to keep my nutes in the fridge. is there truth to that cmt?

rzza - my grandma used to keep her nutes for her garden in the fridge...but our chemical guy told us to keep certain chemicals in the warm shop when it gets cold in the fall and winter so it probably depends on the chemical. imo, organic nutes would probably do well in the fridge.

deprave - i rarely use pesticides too, on the farm and in the weed garden....like you said those strips work great. pesticides like neem oil and other products that are available to the public, do not require a license, nor will they ever. we require a license cuz we work with very highly concentrated chemicals that have to be stored and disposed of properly....plus we use thousands of gallons per year...

cephalopod said:

Are you applying a lot of pesticides right now or typically? I'm guessing you're doing some outdoor work, otherwise I would suggest that there is another problem going on with your op.

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No, my garden is in indoors and I do not have any infestation at the moment. I took care of pests by sterlizing my grow room and removing any other plants from my home thus eliminating those pesky bugs. My soil is heat treated and I'm on constant patrol for those critters.

I was a certified pesticide applicator used it for golf courses. I know that if you apply pesticides on property that you own that you do not need a permit/license. But, I have never before worked on a consumer product and I just figured that the government would wrest control from us in one way or another. I don't trust those bast@#ds.

I don't want to be a list that could make it into the fingers of those blood-sucking bureaucrates. But, I do want to grow legally, too.

GG

you have nothin to worry about ganja girl, i say go legal...its like lifting a weight off your shoulders.

cmt1984 said:

you have nothin to worry about ganja girl, i say go legal...its like lifting a weight off your shoulders.

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I guess that alone is worth getting on the list. GG

deprave said:

.I have found just hotshot pest strips in my veg room and at the entrance to my flower room does wonders.

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Never use these pest strips indoors, especially if you are living with the plants. These strips are very carcinogenic.

How bad can they be really when they cant even kill certain bugs, I still get fungus gnats on seedlings sometimes and I see an occasional ant - I was recommended by lots of experienced growers to use them.

Here is the rule from the Dept of Ag that I was thinking of.




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