MAYAN Prophecy .

mexiblunt

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leap seconds, I like that.:)

When your 5 years old a year is a long time as it is 1/5 of your experience of life. When your 80 one year is only 1/80 of your life. Is this why the years seem to get shorter the older you get? When I was a kid it felt like the next day would never come, how many more sleeps till christmas?
 

Stark Raving

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EXACTLY. Time is a MEASUREMENT. Not a REAL thing.
I disagree. An hour is a measurement. The measurement is of time.

EDIT: That's like saying a ruler is a measurement not a real thing. The increments on the ruler are the measurements, the ruler is the thing.
 

THENUMBER1022

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is this planet really more sophisticated than any other baron planet observable with a 19.99 dollar CVS branded telescope? or did we consciously create all that is great that we see. or did we actually? and if we actually did, why can't thousands of years of science and progress not explain how ancient civilizations moved 100 ton rocks strategically in place, perfectly positioned with a series of identical stones, theoretically transported hundreds and hundred of miles.

We couldn't stand the WTC back up in 10 years, and our buildings are designed to fall. Why not build for longevity? I hardly consider low-e argon pressurized gas filled windows to be the pinnacle of energy efficiancy..
 

RavenMochi

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is this planet really more sophisticated than any other baron planet observable with a 19.99 dollar CVS branded telescope? or did we consciously create all that is great that we see. or did we actually? and if we actually did, why can't thousands of years of science and progress not explain how ancient civilizations moved 100 ton rocks strategically in place, perfectly positioned with a series of identical stones, theoretically transported hundreds and hundred of miles.

We couldn't stand the WTC back up in 10 years, and our buildings are designed to fall. Why not build for longevity? I hardly consider low-e argon pressurized gas filled windows to be the pinnacle of energy efficiancy..
I have to agree, I was disappointed to find out that the grade of concrete we use is even inferior to that the ancients used. We do it because its cheaper, but because of that everything we build in that manner has a shelf life.
You do have to remember that with the burning of the Alexandrian libraries we really have no fucking idea as to the scientific knowledge of our ancient ancestors. We pretend to know, but sad to say, theirs no way we can now.
 

Finshaggy

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I meant our perception of time.

Our perception of time is a whole new pile of shit. Our perception of time can be manipulated greatly, and with practice can even done by choice.
I didn't say anything about the movement of the earth, I said how far away it is from the gravity of the earth. We can be stationary in space and the measurements will still be the same, the clock closer to earth will move slower.
Perception of time is something WAYY different than what your talking about.
 

mexiblunt

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Did you know glass is actually closer to a liquid than a solid? Most homes older than 100 years often have leaks near the top of the window as the glass gets pulled down by gravity.
 

Finshaggy

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What does that even mean? Entropy is the reason for the existence of time. If things did not 'deteriorate' then you would be right, there is no time. The fact that things do progress in one direction toward higher entropy IS the phenomena we call time. It doesn't prove time, it is what defines what time is.
Ok, well then this proves where we differ. I do not accept that as final evidence that there is a substance or place or thing called time. It proves that things break down.
 

Finshaggy

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An amount of time in space and an amount of time on earth are the exact same measurements. We just label them differently.

Like we could say something is an hour away while (hypothetically) an alien could say it's 28 zoogas. << it would be the same measurement.
But time only passes for us as it does because of the way our brains interpret what is happening. We may all even be opperating within different speeds of time without even knowing it. We have an organ in our brain that keeps our time for us.
 

Finshaggy

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OK, lets clear something up here. The scientific process goes thusly (an over-simplification, but I'm sure you'll catch my drift):

We observe something, then gather evidence to determine if the theory we created from our observations is accurate. If we gather enough evidence we can draw a conclusion (ie. time exists) Then, when new evidence is discovered that shows a possible contrary conclusion, we can challenge the initial conclusion, and possibly arrive at a more accurate one should the evidence be sufficient.

My question here is, what evidence have you gathered that would suggest time does not exist? (Remember, the burden of proof no longer lies with me, since the evidence that time does exist has been satisfactory within the scientific community)
I say time does not exist because I (and everyone else) have only experienced ONE CONSTANT TIME called SPACE. SO TIME isn't even there. Where is time???? Prove that time can be moved forward or backward. Prove it can slow down. Prove IT exists.
 

THENUMBER1022

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I have to agree, I was disappointed to find out that the grade of concrete we use is even inferior to that the ancients used. We do it because its cheaper, but because of that everything we build in that manner has a shelf life.
You do have to remember that with the burning of the Alexandrian libraries we really have no fucking idea as to the scientific knowledge of our ancient ancestors. We pretend to know, but sad to say, theirs no way we can now.
If we understand a method of traveling through the universes bends in space time, and seek the 'shortcuts' connecting two solar systems(on the same dimension or not at all) we may be able to travel through space, taking shortcuts that may take us back or through thousands of years. Its like in 12-monkeys, 'nothing is a science with these guys, its all hit or miss'. Like you stated, we have absolutely no basis of understanding the previous technologies found/given/taught on this planet.
 
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