MAYAN Prophecy .

Hepheastus420

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*sighs* I like you kid, I do. But can you give me a reason, some proof, that no distance or time is real?
Lol exactly how I feel. I like this guy, he's chill and he seems like a all around good guy. But his time logic, oh man. I just can't follow his logic about time.

Honestly I had a breakthrough on what he was talking about and completely knew what he was saying, but I had to many thoughts at once and flooded my breakthrough, lol. You almost had me on your side shaggy, ha.
 

Finshaggy

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I don't need Icons on my side. I told Mindphuk at the very beginning this was a theory of my own and arguing it would be like playing tennis with a wall. Read back, I didn't even want to talk about this further. I'm just defending what I know as true, based on what I have gotten from personal reflection on studies of Einstein. I'm sorry if you don't believe me. I never asked anyone to.
 

Hepheastus420

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I don't need Icons on my side. I told Mindphuk at the very beginning this was a theory of my own and arguing it would be like playing tennis with a wall. Read back, I didn't even want to talk about this further. I'm just defending what I know as true, based on what I have gotten from personal reflection on studies of Einstein. I'm sorry if you don't believe me. I never asked anyone to.
Jeez dude I thought you were cool, but I'm only an icon, dick.
 

Finshaggy

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I was just explaining a point, which is that I wasn't ever trying to make a point. I was saying I don't need "anyone here" to be on my side, I didn't bring it up for that reason. I brought it up because I was asked to. I wasn't trying to be a dick, it's just I never wanted to talk about this to begin with, and it's definitely not about sides. I shared an opinion with someone, and even labeled it as an opinion. But then it all came to this some how.
 

RavenMochi

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Jeez dude I thought you were cool, but I'm only an icon, dick.
nuh-uh, I'm a sentient icon :D

Shaggy, your defending your view, but not giving us anything to work with. You said these views are the result of reading Einsteins work and your personal reflection. How about quoting form that work some of what brought you to that conclusion?
 

Finshaggy

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I already did...
When that fucker is on the bus. You go look it up. READ what he said. My contrary belief is at the beginning of this argument. I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO ARGUE THIS. AND THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE PLAYING TENNIS WITH A WALL. I'm not defining it to prove anything to you guys, Mindphuk just asked me to. I'm sorry if it freaked you out, and made you want to reply.
 

blazinkill504

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i wanna know how the fuck einstein figured all the shit out that he did. like how did that nigga look up and go space and time are like a fabric we're sittin in....WTF its gonna be crazy when everyone has the thought process of einstein
 

Finshaggy

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i wanna know how the fuck einstein figured all the shit out that he did. like how did that nigga look up and go space and time are like a fabric we're sittin in....WTF its gonna be crazy when everyone has the thought process of einstein
He had a very strong imagination. He sat on a bus, and realized that IF he were to move at light speed, away form a clock. The clock would appear fixed in time. He said that this is because you are going the same speed as the light, so the light that is coming to you is the past. And outside he said because you are going so fast, it would seem to everyone from the outside of the bus, that the people inside the bus were going slower than them in routines, like drinking coffee, or reading a paper. While still flying at light speed.
So he was in belief that light speed, breaks the time barrier.
 

Finshaggy

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Some how he tied light speed in his head with time. And proved it by getting a picture of light bending around the sun during an eclipse. Like we can literally SEE the stars behind the sun according to that picture, because of a bend in "space time" that bend is what we call "gravity".
 

mindphuk

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He had a very strong imagination. He sat on a bus, and realized that IF he were to move at light speed, away form a clock. The clock would appear fixed in time. He said that this is because you are going the same speed as the light, so the light that is coming to you is the past. And outside he said because you are going so fast, it would seem to everyone from the outside of the bus, that the people inside the bus were going slower than them in routines, like drinking coffee, or reading a paper. While still flying at light speed.
So he was in belief that light speed, breaks the time barrier.
It sounds like you are confusing special and general relativity. The thought experiment about chasing a beam of light has nothing to do with time dilation but the apparent change of time by an outside observer.
The thought experiment for GR and the Equivalence Principle was quite different:

Imagine you’re standing in a room in a spaceship, with no windows. You can’t look out, and you can’t see what kind of situation or environment the room is in. The rocket engines fire, and you begin to accelerate. Now the question you have to answer is, Is the force you feel the force of gravity or the force of the rocket’s thrust?

Einstein’s answer to the question was that there is no experiment you can make that will differentiate the two causes of the force you feel. In other words, they feel exactly the same. And, indeed, when you get in an elevator and the elevator starts to go up, you feel your weight increase, and the pressure of your feet on the floor increases, just as the elevator starts to move. This feeling dissipates when the elevator achieves constant motion. This fact is so well known, now, that the force of acceleration the pilot feels when a fighter jet pulls out of a steep dive is called “g-force,” where 1 g is one gravity, 32 ft/sec/sec, the force we feel due to the earth’s gravity.

Einstein thought, if you can’t discriminate the force of gravity and the force of acceleration experimentally, then there really is no difference. The two concepts are just different ways of describing the same thing. In other words, gravity is not an external force reaching out to you like rays propagating from the earth’s core, it’s actually the inertia of your own body being deflected from its normal path, just like the car turning induces a centrifugal force and throws you to the side.​
 

Finshaggy

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Ok, but that was a different thing that what I'm saying. I'm just talking about his theory he made about the bus.
 

Finshaggy

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Like that's mainly what I studied about him. The bus time, his time in Germany, Relativity, and his affair with his cousin.
 

mindphuk

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Some how he tied light speed in his head with time.
Of course because if the speed of light remains constant regardless of you velocity, and because v=d/t, something else has to be variable and the only thing that works is time.
And proved it by getting a picture of light bending around the sun during an eclipse. Like we can literally SEE the stars behind the sun according to that picture, because of a bend in "space time" that bend is what we call "gravity".
Gravity bends starlight which has no mass, therefore gravity is not a 'force' acting on mass but space is curved and light follows that path. That is the only thing that was demonstrated by the eclipse. Just a single aspect of GR was supported. The time difference of atomic clocks at different altitudes is what confirms time dilation.
 

Finshaggy

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But this is all based on human perception. Not what really happens out there in the real world.

But he said that that bend was the thing that caused the 9.whateer speed of falling, which we call gravity. He said that curve "caused" it. Not was is
 

ginjawarrior

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Ok, but that was a different thing that what I'm saying. I'm just talking about his theory he made about the bus.
the way i've seen it

at standstill we're traveling thru time at the speed of light

when we start moving, time slows the faster we go, time slows down until we reach (if were ever possible to reach) the speed of light at which point times stops

a photon from the sun didnt have time to look around on his travel here from his view point it was instantaneous the moment of his birth and moment of his destruction
 

Finshaggy

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But we only seem to move at the speed of light because we are human and that is what we see. Like I bet there are even faster things. And other ways to measure this shit. but it's all from a humna perspective. Yeah we have technology now, but electricity isn't that old. We haven't figured out how to use technology right yet I'm sure. I bet what we right now do just works. We'll find way better shit in the future.
 

ginjawarrior

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But we only seem to move at the speed of light because we are human and that is what we see. Like I bet there are even faster things. And other ways to measure this shit. but it's all from a humna perspective. Yeah we have technology now, but electricity isn't that old. We haven't figured out how to use technology right yet I'm sure. I bet what we right now do just works. We'll find way better shit in the future.
nothing to do with being human it works with machines too

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/airtim.html
 

THENUMBER1022

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if you are constantly traveling at a speed that is much higher than normal averages (I.E. airline pilot/atendees, race car drivers, f-16 pilots, etc..) do you think this would have a profound effect on our perception of time? would time on the grand standing still appear to travel much slower? is space/time relevant on Earth, within its atmosphere? or is this measurement only a very large rough measurement of extremely vast distances such as light years.

I am awoken to the thought of the connection in space/time without consideration of earth's atmosphere, however to function within our atmosphere we need to understand these principles moreso, to understand how to travel on the surface of space/time like ball lightning running across the ground. If no resistance/drag/friction, or little to none, it should take very little power to achieve this, but the power required to leave our atmosphere and still be nimble enough to effortlessly slide around the universe would be immense. Is life controlled sonically? or via gravity? Most meteor's are the blame for a large percentage of iron and magnetic metals that we are still mining for, so one cannot assume that the elements we have on earth are the only elements worth looking into.
 

edsweed

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An amount of time in space and an amount of time on earth are the exact same measurements. We just label them differently.

Like we could say something is an hour away while (hypothetically) an alien could say it's 28 zoogas. << it would be the same measurement.
zoogas are a dellicacy on my planet, they take 420 munaggons to cook at a temp of 1000 winigags
 
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