masculinized seeds

Hey everyone. So to the few of you who come in here, maybe you're thinking "What the fuck does this retard want 100% male seeds for?".. quite simple my friends, then I don't have to mess around when trying to cross breed! If I could make my C99 seeds (obviously after planting them) 100% masculine, then I could cross breed it with a feminized plant to get an easy hybrid. Let me know what you think/the process required to attempt this (if possible).

Intresting shepj, I would light stress or silver thiosulphate to create fem seeds... or though this is much harder your way you will have to very paitent. If you have BUDS right now.... then when you crop leave one big bud toward top of plant, get some wax paper and follow formula on my thread YOU WILL HAVE FEM seeds...
It sounds like your happy to play and spend the time..... If not do light stress....
Build your self a little box with grow fluros and make males.......

Also where would you get MALE seed ??
You dont want a male dominat gene either... it will take you 4-8 generations to get it out !!!!!

You are right shepj. WTF! I dont get it. 100% males. Got to be a better way. Good luck bro!

No, I know how to make feminized seeds man.. I want to find a way to produce masculinized seeds.

If I have feminized NL seeds, I know they will grow female plants
If I have masculinized NL seeds, I know they will be male

I mean that's simple, so instead of playing the guessing game and waiting for plants to mature to get a male plant necessary to cross breed with another strain in order to make a hybrid, I could throw a feminized seed into the ground and a masculinized seed from another strain and cross pollinate them without having to guess if the seeds will be male or female or go hermie on me. ya kno?

Your as lazy as me then ! - I see what your saying and would work, but again you will have to wittle out the Male gene out of the new hybrid, through the nxt 2 - 3 generations..... your more patient than I.

I can cross breed until it's stabilized, waiting is fine.

So now, how do I produce 100% male seeds?

I just am a HATER of the male gene in MJ thats all... it creats UNCERTIANTY in crops.
So for me a pollen produceing female will always be the better option.
Its a good idea if you plan to open a seed bank !
Your going to end up with thousands of seeds bro !

Good luck with this one Ill be here !

MALEs.hmm.... honestly .... i dont really know, apart from LUCKY..
Again its not likley your going to find alot on this... even commercial operations preffer a pollen producing female...
But this is not say it wont be right for you....

The only thing I can think of... Is a NITROGEN rich diet right through out and especially for flower. Keeping as much PK away as possible.... this will help with the male dominate enzymes. And push away the female ones.

But in order to produce seeds, you need a female. So once you've a pollinated female, start to add more Nitrogen?

I will end up pollinating the normal way, finding a female I like, and a male from another strain.. I just wanted to know if this is possible thanks for your input so far man, always appreciated.

shepj said:

But in order to produce seeds, you need a female. So once you've a pollinated female, start to add more Nitrogen?

I will end up pollinating the normal way, finding a female I like, and a male from another strain.. I just wanted to know if this is possible thanks for your input so far man, always appreciated.

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My thoughts were.... grab a fem seed or normal and start with a high nitrogen diet as always and then instead of backing off .....drown it in nitrogen for the whole process and it should become a full male. Never to show fem properties!
Then you can start from there!

That would yield a male plant, but from there, how do you yield male seeds?

The male herms should self pollinate and produce seeds..... which would be dominate male..... but not completely....

I dont really know enough about this : but I guess find another male and cross the two???????? Can you cross two males ??? males are seed bearing... and have flowers so I guess you can.
MY GUESS would be by useing males you would produce male seeds........

I had no idea males had seeds.. well, now that I think of it. So Males carry seeds and females carry pollen? That seems kind of backwards to me lol.

Im with eza82. I love female seeds. The more the better. You only need one male to breed so whats up with mass males. Mass females create mass bud. I love mass bud~!

males dont have seeds.

just get a male and keep cloning it as you need! i always have a small male in my veg box, once it gets too big i clone it and keep the best clone. then put it back in my veg! i really dont use it ever but i will have it if i need

kiddcuruption said:

just get a male and keep cloning it as you need! i always have a small male in my veg box, once it gets too big i clone it and keep the best clone. then put it back in my veg! i really dont use it ever but i will have it if i need

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I guess I never thought of that.

I hate to be a buzzkill, but you don't want masculinized seeds for the purposes you describe except the geurilla polination.. You just need a nice male C99 to breed, but you would need mutant YY males that are statistically prone to violence and will likely to end up in prison to produce masculinized seeds..
Think about the XX/XY system as homozygous/heterozygous.. Like any other trait, we can draw up a Punnet square and see that with XX/XY we expect 50% XX and 50% XY..
If two XY's were to reproduce the expectation would be 25%XX 50% XY and 25%YY.. If you made it this far you'd need to be able to either spot the YY's, or back-breed and and work the results back to the Punnet square to deduce the YY's.. Now all you have to do is breed a YY with an XX, and your F1's (F1 label based only on the trait of gender) should be 100% heterozygous (as compared to 100% homozygous feminized seeds)..
My assumption though is you'd never be able to pull it off, and any attempt would push the line heavily into monoiecy (genetic herm) if you get anywhere at all.. Survival strategy is likely the cause of back tracking evolutionarily to monoiecy (herming).. Its less difficult to produce male flowers for self polination than female flowers, and a common trend observed is that obvious females can tilt male, but not often the other way around and that spans beyond cannabis..
Does anybody know if treatments/conditions to improve female ratio also tend to increase herm ratio?? If so, these herms MIGHT be heterozygous self-polinators.. I could even understand why quality breeding programs never stumbled upon it..

well.. it was a thought. lol thanks for the input and explanations everyone.

I don't mean to be an asshole but this thread is stupid. Seriously, no offense, because I think you were onto an idea but my guess is the herb clouded your thought process.
The only reason to feminize seeds is to avoid males. If you need a male, just buy pack of regular seeds. There is no such thing as a YY male. The best you could hope for is a mutant XXY which would be a case of aneuploidy and undesirable, analagous to Klinefelter's Syndrome in people, creating infertile males.

One additional question is if you have no problems with feminized seeds, why don't you just do your cross with fem pollen? IOW, just hermie your C99 and cross it with whatever strain you were planning to to begin with. You already know you don't need a male to get pollen, why try to go through the process of 'creating' male seeds, just to wait for them to mature to produce pollen?