Marijuana Myth Busters

Impman

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Let's bust some Marijuana Myths and do some justice for the marijuana growing community! I will start with my top Myths that I perceive to be effecting the weed growing 'pop culture' we have all over the net. Never when I was young did I see a single 'Hydro Grow Shop'. What is driving all these pop up grow shops and Marijuana Specific hand books? Why /how have back yard gardeners been growing for so long with no Hydro Grow Nutrients or PH balancing? And never in my life have I seen so many specific little tricks that seem to only effect Marijuana Plants. These are the Myths that put a puzzled look on the faces of real life horticulturist and agriculture growers alike. These are the myths that will stir up passionate debates and anger in 'Marijuana Growers'. But these are the Myths that must be busted for a grower to have a successful indoor or outdoor garden.
Thread Disclaimer: I realize this thread will really upset a lot of people. It is a very controversial topic to most. The reason it will strike to the core of many marijuana growers hearts is because most growers have been and continue to be ripped off and conned out of lots of money. Money is a very sensitive thing to everyone, especially in this horrible economy. So, when someone suggests to someone "You have been wasting your time and money" It will incite anger in many. Please read objectively and do research before responding harshly to the Marijuana Myth Busters. I did not take the time to search for all the links to disprove. Maybe if there is a fellow Myth Buster, he/she can help post some links to bust. Most of this Myth busting is me parroting UncleBen and some of his friends. This thread is going to get smashed anyways, but maybe I will get one experienced grower with lots of links to help me out. In no particular order here are a few myths off the top of my head. I will add more...when I think of them.

Myth 1. Leaves should turn yellow before harvest because the plant is devouring nutrients for bud production.
Myth 2. Nitrogen should be cut off during flowering. Nitrogen effects taste.
Myth 3. Extra/increased Potash stimulates flowering, produces flowers faster, or helps flowering. Or, triggers a plant to flower. Or potash will ripen buds, thicken buds.
BUSTED:All Three Myths http://www.adonline.id.au/flowers/the-potassium-myth/

Myth 4. Stressing plants into more THC, Trichome production before harvest. Driving a nail through the stalk, a darkness period before harvest, dehydrating etc.....
BUSTED: Happy plants produce happy and healthy buds

Myth 5. CO2 injection is WORTH the cost because of increase in yield.
BUSTED: A small tent grow can consume 400-600$ worth of CO2 injection via tank and or propane generator. As long as air is being exchanged a healthy plant will produce dense huge cola's without added CO2 and as long as there is healthy amount of CO2 at a average ppm of 350-450. Plants will consume only the CO2 it needs. CO2 is not a steroid and it is NOT the magical answer for large healthy buds. That can be achieved through genetics and TLC. The 10 re-fills of C02 tanks on even a small grow is not worth your time, gas, or cash.

Myth 6: Always PH your water and soups for optimal growth. BUSTED: Marijuana is a PH tolerant plant. It can experience a wide fluctuation of PH without showing any signs of stress. PH in soil can change over time and it is OUT of anyones control. One of the only horticulture or agriculture industry that 'PHing' is so widely used and so not needed is in the Marijuana industry. It is a gimic to sell nutrients and chemicals used by grow shops and parroted in 'Marijuana Grow Books'. As long as your PH is not off the charts, which ironically usually only PH Up and Down chemicals can achieve your plants will be fine. Don't feed your weed battery acid. Any water you would not drink or give your pets, don't give your plants is the best rule of thumb as far as 'PH' goes.

Myth 6. Flushing your plants will improve taste and clean out unwanted salts. BUSTED. Marijuana plants are not like your toilet. Neither are any other plants for that matter. Flushing is the most parroted and least truthful of all the Myths.
Myth 7. Marijuana thrives in a constant room temperature anywhere from 72-79 degrees. Marijuana is a Thermoperiodic plant. For fat, healthy buds and healthy growth make sure you have a 10-20 degree drop in your night temperature. Thermoperiodism also keeps your flowering time on track.
 

KsloPokerPro

Active Member
So, let me get this straight, in order to set the record straight on myths, you make a post which will inevitably end in those arguing for or against your points, thereby leading to the propagation of more myths.

I can't wait
 

sohighifly

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I don't give a shit what anyone says about this post,thanks on behalf of everyone that wants a full scope of any given situation and takes time out to view things in the light of fact.If any one has counter statements based in fact with research and proof to bolster the counterpart of these claims, I am all ears and would like to see it.
 

Impman

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I don't give a shit what anyone says about this post,thanks on behalf of everyone that wants a full scope of any given situation and takes time out to view things in the light of fact.If any one has counter statements based in fact with research and proof to bolster the counterpart of these claims, I am all ears and would like to see it.
My Man! "400$ worth of CO2 my ass' doesn't help anyone for example
 

qwizoking

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How many times are you gonna post the same thread and expect a different response... I think Einstein said something about that ;)
 

dbkick

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my 400 dollars worth of co2 my ass statement was to point out just how inaccurate your numbers are. other than that it's just drawn out and long winded and proves nothing
that you're arguing, so basically it's opinion.
 

Impman

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I spend $15 for about a 45 day supply. It would take a couple years to tally $600 in c02
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I have a CO2 C.A.P. monitor that costs 400$. I can and have monitored PPM throughout the day. To maintain 1500 PPM 12 hours a day will take 1 tank every 4-7 days depending on your airflow set up.. You either do not and have never monitored your Co2 and you just assume it is at 1500 PPM or your just making stuff up. I have a CAP. I know what it takes to maintain 1500 PPM. It must be exhausted every 15 minutes. There is no way around completely clearing out the rooms Co2 or your plants will stress from lack of airflow.
 

Impman

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I can easily demonstrate how to use your C.A.P monitor. you just plug it in and watch your PPM. It is not an abstract number 400-600$. that is Facts.. YOu can't keep more Co2 than any other human on earth just because you say. The cost is the cost. CO2 bags to not WORK! I have bought bags and put them right next to the C.A.P. and it doesn't even budge. .... IF you breathe near the C.A.P. the PPMs will dance up to 2500 +. Human interaction with your plants is more effective than a Co2 bag
 

Impman

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How many times are you gonna post the same thread and expect a different response... I think Einstein said something about that ;)
el troll is back. Potassium Myth thread was specific to that. So that thread and this thread equals 2 threads. 1+1 = 2. any more questions qwisoking? Get off mommys computer and go wipe the snot off your face .;-)
 

Jeffdogg

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I spend $15 for about a 45 day supply. It would take a couple years to tally $600 in c02
Thats the thing about C02, in a room thats not properly cooled they would want to use more Co2 to help the plants breathe. Along with that you have to factor in the size of the room, theres a few variables in play. I pay about the same, my room stays around 78°, which for C02 is the proper temp to get the best results. If they are using Co2 in a hot room the Co2 is gonna be used differently for the plants to where its compensating helping the plants breathe to where if the room is proper temp the Co2 will help increase the yield.
 

Impman

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All depends on how man dimension's he is posting this thread ;-)
Jeffdog! My man. The non growing RIU troll! Nice to have you here. You are Marijuana Myths epitomize! You are the best example to have on this thread! You Parrot grow book info with no real growing experience. Welcome
 

Jeffdogg

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I have a CO2 C.A.P. monitor that costs 400$. I can and have monitored PPM throughout the day. To maintain 1500 PPM 12 hours a day will take 1 tank every 4-7 days depending on your airflow set up.. You either do not and have never monitored your Co2 and you just assume it is at 1500 PPM or your just making stuff up. I have a CAP. I know what it takes to maintain 1500 PPM. It must be exhausted every 15 minutes. There is no way around completely clearing out the rooms Co2 or your plants will stress from lack of airflow.
thats all depending on the size of the room. A 5'x5' room is not gonna need the same amount of Co2 to produce the suggested 1500 ppm to where a 12x12 room is gonna need a lot more to bring it to that. Its simple math man, something your not factoring in. Just seems like your trying to make another thread for fame and recognition and not really helping. Im not trying to offend you but you need to factor in room size and apply simple math to it.

Dont believe me? Bust this myth then lol

http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/co2_calculator.asp

Different size rooms require different amounts of Co2.. Nuff said..
 

Impman

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thats all depending on the size of the room. A 5'x5' room is not gonna need the same amount of Co2 to produce the suggested 1500 ppm to where a 12x12 room is gonna need a lot more to bring it to that. Its simple math man, something your not factoring in. Just seems like your trying to make another thread for fame and recognition and not really helping. Im not trying to offend you but you need to factor in room size and apply simple math to it.

Dont believe me? Bust this myth then lol

http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/co2_calculator.asp

Different size rooms require different amounts of Co2.. Nuff said..
I think adding Co2 is dumb. co2 bags do not work. That is another MYTH. I have a nice C.A.P Co2 monitor to prove it. The POINT is this: maintaining 1500 PPM at any size room is not worth the Cost.
 

Nullis

Moderator
el troll is back. Potassium Myth thread was specific to that. So that thread and this thread equals 2 threads. 1+1 = 2. any more questions qwisoking? Get off mommys computer and go wipe the snot off your face .;-)
You mean the "potassium myth" that you totally misconstrued? The one I tried to help clarify for you in multiple threads now?

Sometimes you need someone to help break it down for you.

So, Impman for the last time I am sorry that you don't get it, and that you were having issues, but you really need to stop projecting. Just trying to help you and others see the bigger picture here... IDK why you come here and post a random link because you see the word "potassium" in the thread title... For all I know you didn't even read the whole article you freaking posted enough to understand it!

The key rule of thumb is this: "nutrients do not regulate growth, hormones do". Potassium is not a hormone. It therefore cannot stimulate flowering. It is important to realise that the process of flowering is extremely complex (as this site will attest) and even a well-qualified horticulturalist of many years experience will not necessarily be able to solve your problem. In most cases, you can be assured that if your plant is healthy-looking, an ansence of flowers will not be corrected via an application of potassium. - See more at: http://www.adonline.id.au/flowers/the-potassium-myth/#sthash.Zo5Tbdtv.dpuf

I don't think you read more than a few sentences before your ears started burning because of all the wasted money you spend
Are you familiar with logical fallacies and straw men and so fourth?

Well anyways. Nutrients don't regulate growth, or CAUSE a plant to bloom. Hormones themselves are made of nutrients the plant assimilated! K is even needed to translocate those nutrients and water to new growth and blooms. It doesn't stimulate (activate) flowering in the plants... but it sure as hell is required as the plant grows and especially as it blooms. Nitrogen is needed too sure, only not so much as harvest approaches. In Cannabis bloom is activated, in normal strains, by hormones that are influenced by photoperiod. There should be no problem getting Cannabis to bloom, it just needs a longer dark period! So no, in Cannabis, the absence of flowers will not be corrected via an application of potassium... it will be corrected via LONGER DARKNESS.
 

TWS

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your gonna tell me flushing is a Myth ? And P doesn't help flowering ? And PH in a Hydro system doesn't matter ? Im done here.
 
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