Making Hash Tutorial

Jack in the Bud

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Thanks for the reply Jack,
My first attempt is here on page 3 - https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/191962-making-hash-tutorial-3.html
As you can see, the sedament is a little too green.

Reiss,

That doesn't look all that bad to me. My best fraction might have been a little cleaner but not much. I've got a pretty fine meshed strainer compared to your standard wire mesh kitchen collander/strainer so maybe that made a bit of a difference.

Did you use fresh trim or some that had been completely dried out?

I had a couple of tokes of the really green stuff I got earlier this morning and while it tasted kind of bad I did get a nice little buzz off of it.

Maybe later to day I can get some pics posted.

Jack

"Nothing is fool proof to a sufficently talented fool".
 

Reiss

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My trim was dried and frozen! Have some in the freezer now from my auto AK grow, going to mix it with the white widow trim when she's done and do a little mix :)
I think the better the screen, the cleaner the hash, I mean, it's not like we dont smoke leaf matter anyway when we smoke our buds but it would be nice to make good, clean hash.
 

Jack in the Bud

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My trim was dried and frozen! Have some in the freezer now from my auto AK grow, going to mix it with the white widow trim when she's done and do a little mix :)
I think the better the screen, the cleaner the hash, I mean, it's not like we dont smoke leaf matter anyway when we smoke our buds but it would be nice to make good, clean hash.
You lucky dog. It's gonna be a another 2,3 months until I have any more trim to play around with.

I just had a couple more puffs of what I made (the light brown fraction this time) and I gotta say I'm enjoying it.
 

motoracer110

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hashie moto,

Thanks for posting that. I just gave it a go but am not completely done yet. I started with 133 grams of the really good close trim (no fan leaves). It was full on crispy, crumbly dry. This caused a little bit of a problem in that when I first siphoned the 5 gallon bucket down I had quite a bit of plant material that had settled on the bottom. It took me a couple extra steps of washing it thru a fine sieve into 1 gallon glass jars and letting it settle out to be able to collect the good stuff. So far I've got a wafer of it that's the diameter of a silver dollar and about twice as thick. As soon as it finishes drying I'll weigh it and report. I've still got a one gallon jar of liquid (from a second washing) settling out and it looks like I'll get a little bit more. My guess is that this method probably works better with fresh trim that hasn't dried out to the brittle stage yet.

After I strained off all the floating plant material after mixing with the paint mixer in the five gallon bucket I decided to examine it with my 60x magnifier. Found quite a few trichrome stalks still attached to the leaf pieces. Most all of the little round caps were gone though (did see a couple of them).

To see if I could recover more I broke out the electric blender and put this plant material thru it along with some more ice and water. It made quite the green tea (as opposed to the brown tea the paint mixer made). The down side to this is that the blender reduced the plant material to a really fine particle size. But by washing it thru a fine strainer with some more water I got the bulk of it out. I've got a gallon glass jar of this green tea settling out and I can deffinetly see some brown settling out of it. All though it still has quite a bit of fine green pigment particles mixed in with it. My guess is that it's not going to taste quite as good as the first fraction will. Another day or so and I'll have this science project wrapped up and probably have more to report.
Reiss,

I weighed the main little cookie of hash that I got by following the tutorial that started this thread and it weighed 4 grams. It's nice light brown, crumbly, good tasting stuff.

While I'm not a hash making expert by any means, here's my conclusions for what their worth.

This method probably works best with fresh undried to semi-dried trim. What I used was trim that I'd been saving up from several small past grows. I had completely dried it out before storing it in a 1 gallon glass jar (had about 2/3 of a jar full).

If I had it all to do over I think I would probably go with getting some kind of silk screening material stretched on a frame that fit over a big glass backing dish. And then I would have ground my dried trim material a little finer and worked it back and forth over this screen catching that fine brown powder in the glass baking dish. I think that way I'd have probably have ended up with maybe twice the quantity of good clean stuff with a whole lot less fuck'n around and mess.

Re-running the plant material thru the elctric blender was not one of the better ideas I've ever had. Got some of that finally seperated out and dried but it's a dark green colored product. And it tastes just like it looks. Basically it's probably at least 50% small pure green chorophyll particles mixed in with the lighter brown hash particles. I'd have probably been better off just re-running the material again according to the tutorial.

At first reading of the tutorial I thought maybe the writter was being a little overly zealous with his mixing and settling times. I now know he wasn't. If anything you want to increase those times. I think it would be a good thing if you could rig up a stand to hold the drill and mixing paddle so you could just turn it on and walk away from it for awhile. Getting things good and cold is probably also a key factor. Add lots of ice.

The water you initially siphon out of the 5 gallon bucket after sifting out all the plant material you can should be siphoned into 1 gallon glass jars and allowed to stand overnight. Even though most of the good stuff is going to be down in the bottom of the bucket I'd do it with all the water just to be sure you don't miss any.

Smooth glass plates, pyrex or glass baking dishes, Corning Ware casarole dishes, etc. are good things to pour that final slurry out on for drying. Small metal or hard plastic spatuals will work good for scraping it around and gathering it up into a cookie as it dries. I used a small light weight, really flexible putty knife.

O.K. I've been sampling the fruits of my labors and am beginning to ramble on. So may be more later.
This is some awesome info Jack. I totally saw some stuff left over on the leaves that i threw out, and was trying to figure out some ways to get as close to %100 of the usable THC off the plant material as i could. one thing that i was going to invest in was a mini wash machine, they run about $85 new. It will bring up the price of materials a bit, but i think this would do a lot better (just put it on a 30-45 min cycle). It probably wont cycle fast enough to push everything off, but what r ur thoughts on something like this to move the plant material through?
 

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southern homegrower

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i done this but i used a blender i think your method would be much less work. i think maybe my blender chops the leaf material up to much because my hash was very green
 

greenesthaze

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saving this for later when my ladies are done an for surely getting a + rep for this one i don't usually give those away but i like what i see
 

Jack in the Bud

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This is some awesome info Jack. I totally saw some stuff left over on the leaves that i threw out, and was trying to figure out some ways to get as close to %100 of the usable THC off the plant material as i could. one thing that i was going to invest in was a mini wash machine, they run about $85 new. It will bring up the price of materials a bit, but i think this would do a lot better (just put it on a 30-45 min cycle). It probably wont cycle fast enough to push everything off, but what r ur thoughts on something like this to move the plant material through?
moto,

That definetly looks like it might have some good possibilities. I remember reading something 5 or so years back (probably in High Times) about a large out door grow operation down in Central or South America where they were using a full size washing machine to make hash. And they just weren't using trim but also doing some loads with the whole plant.

Basically they were just loading the tub with plant material, water and ice and letting it run thru a wash, rinse and spin cycle and having it discharge into large barrels to let everything settle out. I seem to remember they had a picture of a good size pile of big hash pucks they were getting from this process.

I think we've already come to the conclusion that the electric blender is not a good idea because it chops the plant material up to fine and makes it to difficult to seperate from the trichs.

The more I think about that little mini washing machine the more I'm liking the idea. Maybe the initial agitation might be a little weak but there's nothing saying you couldn't first beat the trim in a 5 gallon bucket with the paint mixer and then dump that into the washing machine and run it thru the mini-washer next (maybe several times). I think the spin, rinse, spin part of the cycle might do a lot for helping get the trichs free and isolated. You could have the mini-washer discharge thru a strainer into another 5 gallon bucket and let that stand over night for settling. And then immediately put the material you strained out back in the mini-washer for another go around and catch that discharge in another bucket. And so on and so on until you figured out where the point of dimishing return was where you weren't getting any more trichs off the material.

And who knows, maybe the more gentle agitation of the mini-washer (if done for a longer time or multiple times) still might be sufficent to break the trichs lose with out breaking the plant material down so fine to where you end up with less of it in the final product. Fuck oh dear man, I think you just might be on to something with that mini-washer.

What about putting the trim in some of those fine meshed "ice-o-later" bags I've heard about and then putting that into the mini-washer. You'd get the trichs to wash out of the bag but yet keep 99% + of the plant material out of the water you wanted to settle the trichs out of.

More later.
 

smallclosetgrowr

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this method would be usless with just fan leaves yeah ? becuase on my fan leaves there are no visable trichs...can anyone let me know, i have a shit load of fan leaves and not sure what to do with them
 

Jack in the Bud

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this method would be usless with just fan leaves yeah ? becuase on my fan leaves there are no visable trichs...can anyone let me know, i have a shit load of fan leaves and not sure what to do with them
scg,

They're not worth trying to do any thing with. Best thing to do is get rid of them. Just do it discreetly in a safe fashion. I don't throw any of my growing trash (culled males, fan leaves, that trim after I make hash, empty fert containers, etc.) in the regular garbage that gets picked up. I've got a fire pit in the back yard where all that kind of thing gets saved up and burnt in occasionally. I know if you live in the city you may not have this option so you probably have to get it into a public access dumpster some where. Just make dam sure you don't have any thing else in that sack along with it that would lead back to you (like a piece of junk mail with your address on it).
 

Jack in the Bud

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Hey moto,

I've had a few more thoughts on using that mini-washer for making hash. I've been bumping some of that hash I just made and am some what baked so bear with me......

I think we might be able to work some women's panty hose onto the equipment list. What if you cut the legs off of a pair of panty hose and then used that as a bag to losely pack the trim in, tie it off in a knot and then throw that in the mini-washer. As long as the mesh of the panty hose was big enough to let the trichs pass out thru it but yet small enough to keep the other plant material from getting out it would help keep the final product cleaner.

I guess we need to do some research into what mesh sizes (threads per inch count) that will allow trichs to pass thru and then see what mesh size this cheap panty hose comes in. I'm thinking that if you just put the trim in the mini-washer loose it will end up clogging something some where in the mechanism most likely at the discharge. Besides the whole idea is to get that plant material seperated from the trichs, not mixed in finer with it.

I think next time I'm in Wally World I'm just gonna man-up and buy a pair of panty hose. I don't have any trim to work with but I'm gonna stretch part of them over a bowl and then break up a regular bud on it and rub it around to see what falls thru it. I'm betting I'm gonna get some of that light brown powdery kief.

One other thing I wanted to pass on is about 1 gallon (and half gallon) glass jars. Those things are handy as all hell for a lot of things. Besides being able to make sun tea in one of them in the summer time they're a pretty good thing to store weed in or use for the settling out phase of the hash making process. They have a big wide mouth you can easily get your hand in all the way to the bottom and still be able to use a small scraper. Plus they're clear and you can better tell how things are going in the settling out stage. Not being able to see thru that plastic 5 gallon bucket to see how things we're settling out was kind of pissing me off. I realize you've got to do the mixing in one of them but I think it would better to do all the settling out in big glass jars where you could see what's happening. It also helps you when you're down to siphoning off that last little bit of water in that you can readily see if you're starting to suck up the good stuff.

A good free source of those jars is your local Pub. They usually get all those olives, marischino cherries, peprocinis, pickeled eggs, sausages and gizards, etc. in those 1 gallon (or half gallon) glass jars and usually just throw them out when they're empty. Don't be afraid to ask any bartenders you know if they'll keep an eye out toward saving some of them for you. As long as they're glass it doesn't matter what kind of nasty pickeled stuff they've held. They wash out good, clean and smell free. I would however avoid any of the plastic ones they some times get. If nothing else it's a good excuse to make a Pub crawl to see if you can't score some of them.

Happy trails.

Jack
 

Jack in the Bud

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Let me guess..... Everybody that was posting on this thread has gotten (and stayed) so baked on the hash they made that they no longer have the skills necessary to put a coherent post together. hahaha!!! Amateurs. ;-)

Jack
 

Jack in the Bud

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Hey Reiss,

I took a look at your grow journal and pics of your set up a couple days back. Good job man! Looks to me like you've scienced out a very effective way to use a very small space.

Jack
 

Reiss

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Hey Reiss,

I took a look at your grow journal and pics of your set up a couple days back. Good job man! Looks to me like you've scienced out a very effective way to use a very small space.

Jack
Thanks Jack. Which Journal (Have 2) Auto or WW (just updated)

Yeh, I seem to do pretty well in a tight space, my girlfriend agrees too:o
 

motoracer110

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moto,

Man you've got to go check this thread out. Some bodies all ready got it dialed in as far as using a mini-washer to make hash.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/250694-breezy-122-hash-making-system.html

Jack

WoW good find jack that is awesome. I think my next payday ill have to get that exact setup and let you know the results. I still have a while because i just started to flower, but i might just stop by the dispensary and buy some hash plant bud and extract out of there. o ya im not sure if you are into edibles, but some of the hash that i made last time i cooked with coconut oil and used that to make brownies (just substitute the butter with the hash cooked coco oil) and i have to say i have never been higher in my life. I smoke like 4-6 times a day but this was a whole new high. I probably made it too strong with the ammount of hash i used, but it was a hell of a good time. :bigjoint:
 

Jack in the Bud

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WoW good find jack that is awesome. I think my next payday ill have to get that exact setup and let you know the results. I still have a while because i just started to flower, but i might just stop by the dispensary and buy some hash plant bud and extract out of there. o ya im not sure if you are into edibles, but some of the hash that i made last time i cooked with coconut oil and used that to make brownies (just substitute the butter with the hash cooked coco oil) and i have to say i have never been higher in my life. I smoke like 4-6 times a day but this was a whole new high. I probably made it too strong with the ammount of hash i used, but it was a hell of a good time. :bigjoint:
moto,

I've been doing some edibles. For the brownies I just use a Duncan Hines box mix. I've been sauteing a 1/4 oz of bud in a half cup of vegatable oil to make them. I've also made Nestle's Toll House cookies by cooking a 1/4 oz into 2 sticks of butter.

I've never used any hash in the making of edibles but it sure sounds interesting. How much did you use in your batch of brownies? Also where did you find the coconut oil? I like the flavor of coconut and often times put some shredded coconut in my brownies or cookies.

Did you see that link on the other hash making thread to "Sprunge Bags"? The whole set was $79 shipped. I'd like to hear from some one who's got a set of them so I could get their opinion on them before I order them.

Keep me posted on your efforts in this area. I've got the feeling I'm going to end up with one of those mini-washers myself.

Jack out.
 

Lilbones

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Next time grind up those leafs cuz u coulda got more out of that. Or try soakin it n high concentrate rubbing alcohol then letting it evaporate I just used a quater n got like 2 grams of green dragon
 
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