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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Slipup420 said:
Guys guys there are some growers that have fine tuned there growing styles but for many there not even close hence the tea craze to complete a organic grow ..
yeah i don't know much now do i :) here my blind soil compost mix :) no amendments would you be so kind to show us your soil test oh i forgot you are probably one of them that blindly amend soil not really knowing what soil has or needs Not to bad for winging it or not knowing what i am doing :) View attachment 3703166
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Lmao!

Are you f'ing kidding me. I had a test done a couple years back when I bought this place. It gave me a baseline.

You are actually sitting here talking smack, showing pieces of paper and numbers.

I'm putting up multiple pics of proof of what I've done.

I'm here to tell you that what looks good on paper doesn't always work in the real world. If you spent any time in it you would know.

I showed you pics of several different water only grows. Those are different environments. One is a garden with different types of plants.

I don't play around. I feed my family with what I grow, catch, and hunt.

If you think I'm blindly walking around and pulling stuff like that off then you're crazy.

If you want to go water only I got a good book for you to read.
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whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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ttystikk said:
Too many people here have utterly failed to learn lessons of 'horses for courses' and the perfect being the enemy of the good.

Or in your case, great- that's plenty of damn fine nug. Better than most of these loud mouths manage with their nuclear sized SE HPS, lol
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Thank you. Means a lot. I think highly of you.

Maybe one day I will do a large hid grow. I can only imagine how big they would get. Lol.
 
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churchhaze

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whitebb2727 said:
When will you underdtand that I don't give a flying fuck and happy doing what I'm doing?
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What about the point I was replying to where you were suggesting that a greater percentage of light was utilized? Why would you say things like that, then resort to this type of reply after someone calls it out? Don't make absurd implications if you don't want to be called out on them. It has nothing to do with your choices. You tried to imply that your lamps have more usable light, and I showed you that's false. There's literally the same exact percentage of spectral power between 400nm-700nm for the compared cob and T5.
 
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a mongo frog

a mongo frog

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whitebb2727 said:
Maybe one day I will do a large hid grow. I can only imagine how big they would get. Lol.
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Make sure you don't shy away from the SE hps lamps. Tried and true for sure. Im doing my first DE test run now. Yea there nice, but I'm finding same as or better results with the SE lamps. Im not talking yield either, I don't grow for yield being main factor (cant to stay in this trade that way where i live). Strain is going to play a huge roll just like always.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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churchhaze said:
What about the point I was replying to where you were suggesting that a greater percentage of light was utilized? Why would you say things like that, then resort to this type of reply after someone calls it out? Don't make absurd implications if you don't want to be called out on them. It has nothing to do with your choices. You tried to imply that your lamps have more usable light, and I showed you that's false.
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I wasnt making absurd accusations. I made a statement. How do you measure how much light your plant is using?

Going by grams per watt? You can tell me that cobs pull well over a gram per watt and I believe it.

Gram per watt (gpw) is not accurate. Its not that simple. You need to account for how many hours were used to get that figure.

You get 1 gpw in six month and I get .5 in three, who did better?

So you're a little more efficient. Big whoop. I would be willing to wager that with my t5 setup the quality is better.

Is it placebo? Don't know, don't care. You remember the movie "Shallow Hal?". He saw that big girl as beautiful to him. His buddy got the spell removed and jack black was mad.

He asked his friend about his perfect woman. He said super woman. Jack black asked what if people made fun of him.

See Hal saw a beautiful woman and that's all that mattered.

Placebo or does my setup make it better? Doesn't matter. To me its better and I'm happy.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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a mongo frog said:
Make sure you don't shy away from the SE hps lamps. Tried and true for sure. Im doing my first DE test run now. Yea there nice, but I'm finding same as or better results with the SE lamps. Im not talking yield either, I don't grow for yield being main factor (cant to stay in this trade that way where i live). Strain is going to play a huge roll just like always.
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I just meant since I push this t5 so hard I can only imagine growing under hid.

If I did it would be a combo of hps and mh or cmh.

Let's say a 600 mh and 600 hps in a 4x4. With some UV.

I would only be able to grow four plants due to legal reasons.

They would be trees though.
 
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Straw Man

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ttystikk said:
Well duh, he said himself he fried the poor things, then he complains about lousy returns because he failed to harden the plants off to the UV?

His study conclusively proved he didn't know how to grow his plants with UV, not that UV sucks.
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Im wondering how they got fried at 36"? I asked him. Ill let you know if i get a reply
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Straw Man said:
Im wondering how they got fried at 36"? I asked him. Ill let you know if i get a reply
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Failure to properly harden the plants off to the intensity of the harder radiation caused them to fry. Same reason you harden indoor vegetable starts off to sunlight gradually. Poor husbandry interfered with the variable he was attempting to test for.
 
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SPLFreak808

SPLFreak808

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a mongo frog said:
Make sure you don't shy away from the SE hps lamps. Tried and true for sure. Im doing my first DE test run now. Yea there nice, but I'm finding same as or better results with the SE lamps. Im not talking yield either, I don't grow for yield being main factor (cant to stay in this trade that way where i live). Strain is going to play a huge roll just like always.
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how many hours have you put on that DE so far?
 
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Straw Man

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ttystikk said:
Failure to properly harden the plants off to the intensity of the harder radiation caused them to fry. Same reason you garden indoor starts off to sunlight gradually. Poor husbandry interfered with the variable he was attempting to test for.
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What type of uvb bulb could fry a mj plant @36"?
 
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