Light green new growth...

Obepawn

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how’s everyone doing today? Hope all is well. This grow I’m currently on is some what of an experiment, I’m testing heat tolerance on these spare Nirvana Blue Mystic Autos. I live in the desert in California and I’m growing in a 3x3 in my garage. I’m growing organic, amended soil: Equal parts organic potting soil/ coco/ worm castings/ perlite. Per cubic feet: 1 1/2 cups Dr Earth all purpose 3-3-3/ 1 cup dr earth kelp meal and 4 cups azomite. Did not use peat moss, so no lime. I only cooked this for about three weeks due to dr earth product being on the milder side. I’m day 25 from seed.

Problem:

This mix is a little on the hot side for these autos cause I’m seeing some nute burn but I’m not as concerned with that cause I feel they’ll pull through that due to water only regiment. Notice the light green new growth with the one on the right...the other two are not showing this and they are amended the same. Should I be concerned? Is it a weird pheno? Why this plant and not the other two?

Thoughts

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Obepawn

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Why the cups?
It’s a way to improve root development in autos. Ever notice the quick growth when seedlings are put into solo cups? Well as you know, transplanting autos is not recommended, so after my seeds spout in rapid rooters and the roots start showing, I plant the rr in buried solo cups, bottoms cut out, with unamended soil and water the solo cup only for the first 10 -14 days. Afterward you can water as usual. Found this in an article a couple years ago about properly watering autoflower seedlings.
 

Obepawn

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Nothing to worry about, they will green up soon. Pheno related probably.
I think you’re right and think ima stop buying Nirvana seeds. I’ve notice weird pheno tendencies: rounded leaves, one side node growth, double buds and if you look close on the overhead view, check the fork tongue fan leaf.

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Herb & Suds

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It’s a way to improve root development in autos. Ever notice the quick growth when seedlings are put into solo cups? Well as you know, transplanting autos is not recommended, so after my seeds spout in rapid rooters and the roots start showing, I plant the rr in buried solo cups, bottoms cut out, with unamended soil and water the solo cup only for the first 10 -14 days. Afterward you can water as usual. Found this in an article a couple years ago about properly watering autoflower seedlings.
I used to do this ...better way start in 1 gallon containers then cut out bottom at transplant time
 

Merlin1147

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Not sure about that, way too soon to see deficiencies (day25 from seed) FFOF is part of the soil mix and amended with a dr earth all purpose.
This was direct seeded in FFOF. Started showing def right after sprouting. I gave it a light Chelated Fe foliar spray and it cleared up over night.
 

Obepawn

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This was direct seeded in FFOF. Started showing def right after sprouting. I gave it a light Chelated Fe foliar spray and it cleared up over night.
That looks like it. I just gave a light foliage of kelp...monitoring for next few days.

So you say, iron? I’m surprised cause I use azomite in the mix too. In a couple day, if no improvement, I’ll try your advice
 

Obepawn

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This my first time going organic with autos. I think next time, I’ll cut amendments by a third it even a half and keep Organic Plant Magic on standby for emergencies.

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hotrodharley

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My neighbor breeds autos for Baked Beans Cannabis Seeds. His method:

5 gallon buckets with holes 2” from the bottom. Perlite up just past the drain holes. Sunshine #4 about 6” and a Jobes Organic spike. A little more perlite and another spike in the peat and fill to the top. Plant directly and water. Check his Abduction Sour Diesel and Midnight Sun Kush autos. If they ever get any more of their Bering Sea Blue autos that stuff smells like heaven.
 

OldMedUser

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I love seeing that light green in the new shoots. Just means the plant is growing fast as long as it greens up as it matures. All my plants are doing that atm.

Some of those plants with quirky genetics can have the best bud too so I always grow them out to see how they finish and hopefully think ahead and make sure I have some viable clones before flowering. Have missed out on a few gems over the years.

:peace:
 

Obepawn

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My neighbor breeds autos for Baked Beans Cannabis Seeds. His method:

5 gallon buckets with holes 2” from the bottom. Perlite up just past the drain holes. Sunshine #4 about 6” and a Jobes Organic spike. A little more perlite and another spike in the peat and fill to the top. Plant directly and water. Check his Abduction Sour Diesel and Midnight Sun Kush autos. If they ever get any more of their Bering Sea Blue autos that stuff smells like heaven.
Never heard of a hemp bucket being done that way, sounds cool.
 

Obepawn

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I love seeing that light green in the new shoots. Just means the plant is growing fast as long as it greens up as it matures. All my plants are doing that atm.

Some of those plants with quirky genetics can have the best bud too so I always grow them out to see how they finish and hopefully think ahead and make sure I have some viable clones before flowering. Have missed out on a few gems over the years.

:peace:
I’d like to introduce you to distant family member, billy. Billy’s mom smoked cigarettes and meth while she was pregnant, so poor Billy was born with a birth defect. Billy was born with one arm. I know bad joke. All bad jokes aside. Notice that upper node has only one side to it. So the plant gets the benefit of no fan leaves blocking light on that side and as a result, check out the lower growth and bushiness on the exposed side. It might yield more than the other two, but you never know.

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OldMedUser

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Plants do all sorts of weird shit sometimes. I've had ones with 3 nodes and 4 nodes at each junction and tho you'd think that that would increase your yields by 50 or 100% respectively but sadly it doesn't. :( They end up looking like any other plant and yield the same. I've had four reverse hermies where female flowers appear on a male.

I was reading up on how to select for breeding to get the best stable variety of the strain you were working on. The guy was quite insistent that you shouldn't discard the ones that are as big and healthy growing as others. Claimed they often had other qualities that wouldn't be apparent until they'd been grown out and tested. I've been pollen chucking for many years and was guilty of crossing none but the best and he also said that that would eventually lead to the degradation of the line. Can't recall who it was but at the time I knew and he was a well known breeder.

I'm now getting into crossing and developing my own favorite crosses to include CBD and making fem seeds. Got to keep it interesting.

How’d you do that without damaging the roots when cutting?
Like @Herb & Suds said above chopping roots is good for growth and too many think the opposite. I start my seeds in little 9-hole seed starter pots full of ProMix HP that I've run through a 1mm mesh screen, (same as window screen). Before planting I shake them around in a pill jar lined with 150 grit sandpaper for 2 full minutes to scarify the surface of the seeds and let water in easier. Once they have 2 sets of true leaves I repot to something bigger that's usually a 3" square pot then a 2L tobacco can if a known fem or 1L if a regular because once they have 6 or 7 nodes I'll top above the 4th node and put the cutting in a glass of water or dip in rooting gel and plant in the same pots and mix I use for the seeds to clone it. 12/12 light right away and usually within 10 days they show sex.

Having a little drinky-poo tonight and got off on a tangent. Seems the authorities are right. Booze and pot messes you up more than just one at a time. Especially on an empty stomach. dizzy.gif

Anyway, at each repotting from the first I saw the bottom off the rootball to get rid of any long roots and shave down the sides if there are any wrapping around the ball. Like topping a plant when you take off the ends of the roots they branch out so by the time they are in their final pots you barely see any thick roots. From top to bottom it's filled with fine feeder roots that are way more efficient than long fat roots.

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I swear I have no idea about what transplant shock is. I've never had any plants do anything weird after repotting. They may seem a little dormant for a day or two but always perk right up and within a few days to a week I see roots poking out the drain holes. The centers of the new growth usually shows that lime green you were worrying about too. That tells me they are real happy in their new home.

There's all sorts of good info in the following link but like the Bible use them as a basis for what you do and don't take them as gospel.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

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