Kingrow1
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I think it pushes for a higher standard, i dont think thats wrong. The info is only basic at the end of the day, what mutation is this is a generalky easily answerable question
Lets talk mutants
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Flowki
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What other stem, they were conjoined twins ;p. They took on a weird structure that didn't require topping for the given space. However the biggest colas were some 40% stem.
Xcoregamerskillz
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Pushes what to a higher standard? That doesn't even make sense. Making ridiculous claims then telling people "do your own research" is a cop out. If someone asks you a direct question about something you said and you can't provide an explanation, example, or reference then all you are going is spouting BS.I think it pushes for a higher standard, i dont think thats wrong. The info is only basic at the end of the day, what mutation is this is a generalky easily answerable question
Ohhhh, ok, I see what you mean.
Thundercat
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So the twins from a single seed is one I've personally experienced, and I believe I accidentally bred it into a strain.
Several years ago now I grew out some Cindy99 from female seeds. One of the seeds popped 2 sprouts, they both started to grow, but one side died off after a few weeks. All the seedlings vegged nicely, and it seemed like 2 different phenos from the 4 plants. I started to flower them out, and realized the one that was a twin had something special about it. I snagged a clone about 2 weeks into flower to try to save the genetics. The mother ended up being roughly a 14-16 inch cola...the whole plant was a cola when it flowered...
So the clone rooted and I tried to get it to veg and it really wouldn't. After a year it was still only about 6 inches tall, and just kept getting funny reveg growth. I knew I wanted to try to breed with it since I couldn't get it to be a mother plant. So I found a nice male in a Sinmint Cookie pack from Sin-City Seeds and made the cross. The fully mature seeded plant was still only about 7-8 inches tall but I got a decent number of nice viable seeds from it.
I grew out a hand full, and passed some to a few friends to grow. One of the seeds I popped was also a twin, but it didn't survive this time. I also got reports from 2 or my "testers" lol that they had got twin seedlings and never had before.
From everything I've read the twin seedlings are very rare. I feel like the gene must have gotten passed from the mom I used for it to show up in 3 or the seeds she produced.
FYI the strain is now called "Sin-D Snacks" and I've been growing 2 of the pheonotypes from that first seed batch for the last 4 years. It's a dank hybrid that won't put you to sleep and tastes so good.
Several years ago now I grew out some Cindy99 from female seeds. One of the seeds popped 2 sprouts, they both started to grow, but one side died off after a few weeks. All the seedlings vegged nicely, and it seemed like 2 different phenos from the 4 plants. I started to flower them out, and realized the one that was a twin had something special about it. I snagged a clone about 2 weeks into flower to try to save the genetics. The mother ended up being roughly a 14-16 inch cola...the whole plant was a cola when it flowered...
So the clone rooted and I tried to get it to veg and it really wouldn't. After a year it was still only about 6 inches tall, and just kept getting funny reveg growth. I knew I wanted to try to breed with it since I couldn't get it to be a mother plant. So I found a nice male in a Sinmint Cookie pack from Sin-City Seeds and made the cross. The fully mature seeded plant was still only about 7-8 inches tall but I got a decent number of nice viable seeds from it.
I grew out a hand full, and passed some to a few friends to grow. One of the seeds I popped was also a twin, but it didn't survive this time. I also got reports from 2 or my "testers" lol that they had got twin seedlings and never had before.
From everything I've read the twin seedlings are very rare. I feel like the gene must have gotten passed from the mom I used for it to show up in 3 or the seeds she produced.
FYI the strain is now called "Sin-D Snacks" and I've been growing 2 of the pheonotypes from that first seed batch for the last 4 years. It's a dank hybrid that won't put you to sleep and tastes so good.
Kingrow1
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I think its merely a mitosis meosis error when the very first seed cell divides and not genetic so to say
Kingrow1
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You didnt and reguardless of your job cant understand the examples i gave.....
That standard
Xcoregamerskillz
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I understand that you can't reference any actual science.You didnt and reguardless of your job cant understand the examples i gave.....
That standard
shushubandora
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One time I got tangie with small flower in the middle of the fan leafs. I should have taken a picture.
fragileassassin
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I actually came here to post this lol.
I have 1 plant of this strain that did it on the top set of leaves on a few colas, These are the biggest ones.
Thundercat
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I would have no problem accepting that if it hadn't happened in multiple generations of the plant, in multiple gardens, with multiple growers doing the germination. I had never seen a twin before that, and neither had either of the other growers that had it happen. Now I've personally had it happen more then once from the same genetic line.I think its merely a mitosis meosis error when the very first seed cell divides and not genetic so to say
That makes me fairly confident that its a genetic expression.
For the record I'm also not talking about a single seedling with a split stem. I'm talking about 2 independent seedlings from a single seed. Once the second one died off the first time it was obvious they were seperate plants, they didn't have a linked root system.
Kingkush325
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Polyploid bud bout to get chopped down lol 
Dr. Who
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There are TYPES of triploidy that are not fatal.
The basic 3 gene's per is....
The type where only some gene's contain 3 sets of gene's. This is called Mosaic triploidy.
This can manifest it'self into things like:
Cleft lip/palate
Spina bifita
extra fingers or toes
Other problems also.
Mostly the central nervous and the skeleton are effected.
Again, full on triploidy in humans is 100% fatal. Please feel free to google that up in a biology of Human's way....
Here, I'll source 1 for you.
https://www.healthline.com/health/triploidy
Tripoidy = having three times the haploid number of chromosomes. Biology definition of.
Now as far as Bee's and such..Different story....Fish, salamanders and some others....Common
Dr. Who
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Interesting that it's expressed in a single bud....Whole poly plants have slow vegging and lower overall final quality...
xtsho
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Plants can do weird things. I noticed this on a plant I had topped. Little branches growing out of the stem. Branching is normal but typically it starts at the split between a branch and leaf. These are up the stem slightly on each of the two tops. Maybe I've just never noticed it before. This thread has me looking for mutants and anomalies. Perhaps a little too hard.
Xcoregamerskillz
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Thank you for the clarification
Roger A. Shrubber
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the way you interact with other people has a lot to do with how they perceive the information you're trying to disseminate...you don't have to be a toady asskisser, but insulting people's intellect and abilities makes them defensive, and unable to view your information in any but a combative way.....I think it pushes for a higher standard, i dont think thats wrong. The info is only basic at the end of the day, what mutation is this is a generalky easily answerable question
Roger A. Shrubber
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Thundercat
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i think twins popping out of one seed is a natural thing, although pretty rare. the genetic differences between plants and animals makes twin plants much rarer than twin animals, but it does occur.
more common is when it may look like two plants, but they share one root system. this is usually caused by a hormone imbalance in the parent plant, that throws off the auxin/cytokinin balance in the young plants, so they develop more than one main stem
more common is when it may look like two plants, but they share one root system. this is usually caused by a hormone imbalance in the parent plant, that throws off the auxin/cytokinin balance in the young plants, so they develop more than one main stem