Lets talk mutants

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by naiveCon, Dec 4, 2018.

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    naiveCon

    naiveCon Well-Known Member

    What is the general consensus ?

    Do you cull or grow ?
    Can they produce kick ass weed ?

    I was gifted 2 seeds from a guy nearby me with zilch for growing skills, but i was extremely intrigued by the single bud that his plant produced. He or I have no idea what the strain is but i wanted to give my best effort.

    So 1 plant is normal and 1 is a mutant, it doesnt bother me one bit as i am going to see what becomes of it, plus i will take some clones. It almost seems as an ideal plant as the top has stopped growing. 20181204_173723.jpg 20181204_165752.jpg

    And here is what the bud from the sister plant looked like,
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    naiveCon

    naiveCon Well-Known Member

    Post up your pics or experiences
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    So ok, what was the mutation?

    Many folks around here call things "mutations" and they are actually normal plant variations by genetic expression.....Phenotypical expression..

    Twins from seeds is a genetic expression.....Bout 1:1200 seed wise..

    A male from a FEM seed is a genetic expression....Bout 1:3000 for that one...

    Most other things are recessed gene expression or genetic from environmental expression....Phenotypical expression...
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    I was wondering the same thing. I don't see any mutation. Maybe I'm missing something?
     
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    elkamino

    elkamino Well-Known Member

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    Mutants eh. I don’t believe this week-old Ms Universe (Dynasty) is technically yet showing as triploid, but it does sport three cotyledon leaves :eyesmoke:
     
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    BudmanTX

    BudmanTX Well-Known Member

    Mutant??? don't see it......
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    Seed: my own making
    Time: 5 week veg 5k led bulb

    this plant, i never topped it, for some reason she did it on her own, now instead of 1 top i have 3 tops now
     
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    NoWaistedSpace

    NoWaistedSpace Well-Known Member

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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    Oh, I see. I've never had three but have had plants that grew two stalks from seed.

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    BudmanTX

    BudmanTX Well-Known Member

    i've had that too with a few seeds i've done......
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    Theres one fuck of a lot of difference between an actual mutant thats genetic and somthing you fucked up and isnt genetic but its fucking up the genetics.

    Some should read up more on mutations before they use this word as it is not accurate to what you are describing.

    Self topping, three leaves a node etc etc all stress not genetic, glad i could clear that up, marijuana actually has pretty mutant resistant genetics if ya ever bothered to look into this.

    Theres a reason the plants looked the same for millions of years :-)
     
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    xtsho

    xtsho Well-Known Member

    I didn't fuck anything up. I grew a seed and it grew two stalks from germination instead of one. I don't think that's really a mutation though because the plant grew normally without any other differences to others of the same strain other than having two stalks. It could be as simple as self topping on the way out of the seed shell at an early stage.
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    All mutations like this can be explained, i post heavily on some eg trifoliates and apical dom/whorled phy.

    Mj resists all mutations to its genetics, people have the wrong idea that its unstable or mutates.

    Genetically it wants to stay the same, dosent want to mingle with other species and has spent millions of years not changing whils some trees have evolved into grasses qnd visa versa.

    Genetics is cool very few learn it but many use that word mutant with zero idea :-)
     
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    naiveCon

    naiveCon Well-Known Member

    Maybe i have misused this term, this was my plant posted above, as in earlier stage.
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    That plant was a simple twin in the seed.. It bonded and did not form actual separate two plants but, formed as one with 2 identical mains...Kinda cool really..
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Sorry but, that is a simple case of phyllotaxy (Whorled)..
    It may or may not continue in the plant expressing it's leaf locations.

    Triplody or triploid is a condition where each cell has 3 sets of chromosomes in the nucleus. In animals, this is a fatal condition....

    I have yet to actually see any real triploid cannabis plant..

    In growing.
    Triploid plants have been used for things like making seedless grapes and watermelons....Triploid plants (any triploid) is sterile and can not reproduce.
    They are breed to be triploid...grown to produce those seedless products...
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    I see this plenty. Not exactly a "rare" condition....Generally it's recessed genetic expression by environmental influence. Phenotypical expression.....
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Now this one is really rare..

    Bet that plant does not grow further then those leaves....It has no terminal bud (that I can see). I would say that's why it's doing that leaf expression.

    Let use know how it goes please....
     
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    eyderbuddy

    eyderbuddy Well-Known Member

    has anyone ever seen a mutation where the stem becomes very thick, like if it was many stems merged into one?

    i have a plant like that. It makes a lot of branching sites and a lot of fan leaves, but half of the plant seems to be growing normally... It's just the othe half looks like a genetic freak
     
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    BudmanTX

    BudmanTX Well-Known Member

    i was kinda wondering, started a nice little seedling, just made sure it had all the requirements so it could grow, bout 2 weeks ago, started noticing that the main stem had split into possible 3. Asked the wife if she topped it, she said no, and i know i didn't, so now i have 3 tops. All 3 of my keepers have this......for this season anyways
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    I always find this condition,,,a good thing...:grin:
     
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