Lets talk Advanced Nutrients!

UPNSMOKE23

Active Member
I say for noobs i wouldnt use advance because if your not carefully watching your plants health and diet you could get burned. For noobs i would suggest buying maxi bloom for $10 online and just feed a teaspoon a gal. And raise or lower if needed. Then you could learn from there trying additives and so on. Another advice please do not foreget to flush if your using salt based nutes. I flush every 2nd feeding
 

UPNSMOKE23

Active Member
Hell raizer. If i just use the sensi base i would not add a&b at the same ratio. First i would use it 1/1 for trans. Preflower i would use 2/3 then ill use it a 1/3 and for the ripener i would just use b for a couple a days finish it off. I know i will get burns burns or def but it will be better then just using plane sensi a&b because the base is 112 and i think it makes you buy products like big bud to make it plants healthy. I think you are probale talking about jungle juice. Grow micro bloom. Just look at the npk and miro to make your feeding right for the plant
 

MisterBouncyBounce

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AN has claimed to increase yields by 300 percent. if that is not bullshit then there is no such thing as bullshit.
AN is the master of the principle: "baffle them with bullshit".

you want to see evidence of how bullshit will win people over in spite of what they see with their own eyes? just look at snoopdog's Ferrari grow room thread in the grow room design forum. one of the most fucked up grow ops i have ever seen, totally clueless waste of money and time and yet there are tons of posts praising it and it even being made a sticky rather then it being viewed as the embarrassment that it is.

we all know hype works, that imagery and cool signage works and then we act like that is not what is really taking place. the bottled water industry is based on that. apple computers is based on that..........let people choose between hype and the truth, tell them that the hype is not true and the truth is based on fact and still most people will rather choose the hype. bullshit works, so why wouldn't it be used in the cannabis grow sector? it is being used and AN is a master at it.

get some AN nutes, some green house seeds and snoop's ferrari grow room and you will yield about a pound of dank weed that will have cost you only about $35,000.
 

chuck estevez

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everyone knows that MJ is completely different then every other plant in the world, therefore, you need nutes made just for MJ, you need to have a white lab coat and spend at least an hour mixing up a soup.and all the money in your wallet.



sorry, but every strain of MJ has different requirements and you cannot formulate nutes and a feed schedule that works on every strain. This is where you have to become an informed grower and learn your strain and what it needs.
plus, AN just sucks.
 

chewberto

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Great post besides A.N sucking! They just cost a lot! That is the only downside! End of story! People want to talk all this shit, but fact of the matter is they produce beautiful flowers and weight! So yeah the price sucks, quit your bitching just move along to the less expensive option! It works regardless of anyone's opinion! Keep drinking your Shasta I'm gonna pay they extra for the regular coca cola, cause I like the taste! Dig?
 

chuck estevez

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Great post besides A.N sucking! They just cost a lot! That is the only downside! End of story! People want to talk all this shit, but fact of the matter is they produce beautiful flowers and weight! So yeah the price sucks, quit your bitching just move along to the less expensive option! It works regardless of anyone's opinion! Keep drinking your Shasta I'm gonna pay they extra for the regular coca cola, cause I like the taste! Dig?
if it works for you and your happy, I am happy 4 u. I have other reasons besides price to reasons I hate on AN. If you only knew what i know, then you would know,lol
 

puffdatchronic

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I'm bringing out my own line shortly "Thug Life Nutrients" . It's basically tomato food and molasses with 2000% mark up.. anyone interested? Cummon it has a cool name and is expensive.. that means you want it..
 

MisterBouncyBounce

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Great post besides A.N sucking! They just cost a lot! That is the only downside! End of story! People want to talk all this shit, but fact of the matter is they produce beautiful flowers and weight! So yeah the price sucks, quit your bitching just move along to the less expensive option! It works regardless of anyone's opinion! Keep drinking your Shasta I'm gonna pay they extra for the regular coca cola, cause I like the taste! Dig?
or maybe you're buying shasta in a coca cola can................just saying.

people want to talk all this shit because they over paid for regular nutes and don't want to feel like a fool for doing it.

i never heard anyone ever say AN don't work. they just don't work as they are touted.

you said to someone "you want to compare grows?" i ask you, have you compared your own grows with and without using AN? and did you experience a 300 percent increase in yields? or 200 or 100 or even 50 or 40 or 30 or 20 or 10?

what exactly have you experienced that GH users haven't? please do tell.

i don't mean to sound harsh man, but your "quit your bitching and move along......" attitude wasn't nice either.
some people actual give a shit about the truth, if you ain't one of them maybe you should "quit your bitching and move along".
 

chewberto

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Well I would love someone who talks all this shit about advanced to compare for once! am actually going to be moving to veganic style of growing! I am not only all about advanced, but to completely say they suck is a bullshit lie! The price sucks that is it! The "truth" is that it works and is fucking awesome regardless of what you came to defend! Lie is a lie and truth is truth! Tell me advanced sucks and go look at my shit and the 4-7 ounces indoors under 1000 watts (currently at 2000 now) and I will call you a liar! Once again I will seek out till my end of days for the best method and it will change! Only thing I have ever defended is the results I get! Dig? Go mister bouncy bounce yourself another account because I already don't like you and might just spend some time trolling your sorry ass! Who is this by the way? The crybaby I said let's compare grows? Lol welcome back! Now good bye!

chuck so far I have no prob with you and I don't know your experience with an but I will keep it at that! And respect your decision to seek nutrition elsewhere! Fact remains for me I have great results! They don't suck for "me" I guess!
 

chuck estevez

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Well I would love someone who talks all this shit about advanced to compare for once! am actually going to be moving to veganic style of growing! I am not only all about advanced, but to completely say they suck is a bullshit lie! The price sucks that is it! The "truth" is that it works and is fucking awesome regardless of what you came to defend! Lie is a lie and truth is truth! Tell me advanced sucks and go look at my shit and the 4-7 ounces indoors under 1000 watts (currently at 2000 now) and I will call you a liar! Once again I will seek out till my end of days for the best method and it will change! Only thing I have ever defended is the results I get! Dig? Go mister bouncy bounce yourself another account because I already don't like you and might just spend some time trolling your sorry ass! Who is this by the way? The crybaby I said let's compare grows? Lol welcome back! Now good bye!

chuck so far I have no prob with you and I don't know your experience with an but I will keep it at that! And respect your decision to seek nutrition elsewhere! Fact remains for me I have great results! They don't suck for "me" I guess!
We always been cool, even if you are a AN user. I could tell you some nasty things about the company, But i won't get into it. I just did some plants with nothing but veg nutes and pulled 5 zips off 1 sour kush. Trying a run with just dyna-foliage pro and it is looking like some of the best runs in almost 3 years.
 

Malevolence

New Member
Well I would love someone who talks all this shit about advanced to compare for once!
Its been done... conclusion was an is nothing special and certainly not worth the additional effort and money. I like how people talk about how simple their shit is and list 6 additives you don't need and 4 different kinds of bennies.... none of which are half as good as brewing your own shit for $40 a year.

Also 4oz under 1000w is bad. Sorry bro I pulled that from bagseed my first run with two 150w hps.
 

chewberto

Well-Known Member
That's per plant buddy! in a 5x5 previously housing 5 plants each! I have since changed my room! But do the math! I pulled close to 2 pounds under one light! Mkay and I've seen side by sides where some companies equate and some just suck so explain that? Fuck you fuck hop along! Chucks still cool!
 

MisterBouncyBounce

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Well I would love someone who talks all this shit about advanced to compare for once! am actually going to be moving to veganic style of growing! I am not only all about advanced, but to completely say they suck is a bullshit lie! The price sucks that is it! The "truth" is that it works and is fucking awesome regardless of what you came to defend! Lie is a lie and truth is truth! Tell me advanced sucks and go look at my shit and the 4-7 ounces indoors under 1000 watts (currently at 2000 now) and I will call you a liar! Once again I will seek out till my end of days for the best method and it will change! Only thing I have ever defended is the results I get! Dig? Go mister bouncy bounce yourself another account because I already don't like you and might just spend some time trolling your sorry ass! Who is this by the way? The crybaby I said let's compare grows? Lol welcome back! Now good bye!

chuck so far I have no prob with you and I don't know your experience with an but I will keep it at that! And respect your decision to seek nutrition elsewhere! Fact remains for me I have great results! They don't suck for "me" I guess!
if you weren't such a hot head you'd realize that in this thread you said to someone "you want to compare grows" and i used that as an entry to say 'how about you, have you compared your own grows? but you take as if i meant you flamed someone. no, that speaks to the issue of AN, that is the point of the thread, "lets talk AN nutes".

you come into a thread were the topic is discussion on AN and tell people who have an opinion you don't agree with, to move along. so i guess there can't be a thread just talking about AN unless we all agree with you.

then you twist the issue by acting like people have said AN don't work as in they are bad nutes.......yes we know they don't kill your plants, yes we know that plants will grow and produce a yield with AN nutes, that is known, not one human in the history of all mankind has ever said they don't work as nutrients. i think i can speak for all mankind on that point.

the issue has ALWAYS been are they shasta with a coco cola label or not?, to use your analogy.

i say they are, you say they are not. i bring up claims they have made, ignore them. you should speak to those points, that is called "being relevant", instead of ignoring them with "i've yielded 4 to 7oz.............therefor AN works". sorry that doesn't wash.

is your position so weak, is AN and their claims of producing superior results to other comparable nutes, to justify their high cost, so indefensible, that you have to resort to threatening to troll me and that i should go get another account, rather than making counter points on the topic and not personal attacks - such as making the argument that people who say AN sucks are just too cheap to go for the good stuff? what the fuck does that got to do with whether AN is worth it or not?

really, that's the best you can do? that's all you got? are you really that personally petty that you would troll me? you should be embarrassed.

now you're going to go vegan, ok cool............only you better not be posting in the future about how you're pulling 4 to 7oz vegan style from a 1000 watter, because then what will that say about AN nutes and the self impressed yields you got with them? you painted yourself into a corner.

you have nothing, you use AN and you have nothing to say about them other than "i got good results". yeah ok pal, thanks for stopping by.
 

chewberto

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I believe this thread has been edited and removed of posts before you came here. I may be wrong I am on a lot of other threads! If you weren't such a fuckwad, you would see my very first post was a rather helpful and friendly reply to the OP, until some simpleton came in with a smart ass response, am I wrong? So I defended my.results and asked a question that wasn't answered, about what wasn't organic in my garden! My resin production is ridiculous, the appeal the flavor all comes through great with AN! And I have about a million pictures from various strains on here! Now let's see your garden results? I still say it's expensive! Now you tell me a reason why it's bad?
 

chewberto

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"Mister bouncy bounce" Just wanted to remember who to humiliate later on down the road with extra care! This is my last post no need to reply bub! The proof is in the pudding! Until you show me plants that look like shit with advanced without the user error or lack of ventilation or some other stupid reason etc! Then anyone who wants to say Advanced is shit can swallow mine! K? Cause I could care less if its advanced or GO or any other company (which I never bashed any alternative company or SS) if it works with splendid results how can you argue that? Who are you defending anyway? You really better just find another hobby! :)

You are welcome for the rep!
 

MisterBouncyBounce

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"Mister bouncy bounce" Just wanted to remember who to humiliate later on down the road with extra care! This is my last post no need to reply bub! The proof is in the pudding! Until you show me plants that look like shit with advanced without the user error or lack of ventilation or some other stupid reason etc! Then anyone who wants to say Advanced is shit can swallow mine! K? Cause I could care less if its advanced or GO or any other company (which I never bashed any alternative company or SS) if it works with splendid results how can you argue that? Who are you defending anyway? You really better just find another hobby! :)

You are welcome for the rep!
you'll remember me? that's sad. i'm sorry if i hurt your little pussy, i'll be more careful next time.
 

churchhaze

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Yield and quality, given a fixed amount of lighting, are related to grower ability and genetics, not the brand of saltwater being using.

GH flora 3 part and the original AN 3 part are almost exactly the same formulation and dilution.
 

chewberto

Well-Known Member
Yield and quality, given a fixed amount of lighting, are related to grower ability and genetics, not the brand of saltwater being using.

GH flora 3 part and the original AN 3 part are almost exactly the same formulation and dilution.
Ok numbers look the same to you right? Now where was the initial nutrition derived from? and chelation and the process? and the other ingredients that aren't allowed to be labeled due to regulations? My buddy uses G.O and doesn't get my results, could be his process or his environment or other factors, I don't know! All I stand to claim from my initial response to being initially talked shit to! Is Advanced Nutrients work extremely well! And it is expensive! So you are?
 

churchhaze

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It's not fair to compare an "organic" line. I was specifically talking about GH flora 3 part hydroponic line. They're derived from the same exact ingredients and chelated salts as the AN 3 part. The "micro" bottles are mostly calcium nitrate, the "grow" bottles are mostly potassium nitrate, and the "bloom" bottles are mostly mono potassium phosphate.

Go look on the bottles for "derived from" lists. It's all the same shit, and the differences in chelation methods don't matter because the chelated minerals (iron) are in such small quantities.


Salts come in bags, not bottles. How many 1L bottles of "micro" (or calmag since it's the same thing) do you think this 50 pound bag of calcium nitrate can make?

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Ok numbers look the same to you right? Now where was the initial nutrition derived from? and chelation and the process? and the other ingredients that aren't allowed to be labeled due to regulations? My buddy uses G.O and doesn't get my results, could be his process or his environment or other factors, I don't know! All I stand to claim from my initial response to being initially talked shit to! Is Advanced Nutrients work extremely well! And it is expensive! So you are?
 
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