Legalization movement faces biggest test yet in 9 states

VIANARCHRIS

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SAN FRANCISCO --
The movement to legalize marijuana faced its biggest test yet Tuesday as voters in nine states, including the nation's most populous, considered proposals to expand legal access to the drug, which is still forbidden by the federal government.

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California, the first state to approve medical marijuana two decades ago, was among five states weighing whether to go beyond medical use and permit pot for adults for recreational purposes. The other states were Arizona, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada.

If California votes "yes," recreational cannabis would be legal along the entire West Coast, giving the legalization movement powerful momentum. That could spark similar efforts in other states and put pressure on federal authorities to ease longstanding rules that classify marijuana as a dangerously addictive drug with no medical benefits.

In general, the proposals for recreational pot would treat cannabis similar to alcohol. Consumption would be limited to people 21 or older and forbidden in most public spaces. Pot would be highly regulated and heavily taxed, and some states would let people grow their own.

Three more states - Florida, Arkansas and North Dakota - were deciding whether to permit marijuana for medical purposes. Montana voted on whether to ease restrictions on an existing medical marijuana law.

State-by-state polls showed most of the measures with a good chance of prevailing. But staunch opponents that included law enforcement groups and anti-drug crusaders urged the public to reject any changes. They complained that legalization would endanger children and open the door to creation of another huge industry that, like big tobacco, would be devoted to selling Americans an unhealthy drug.

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The Massachusetts measure, for example, was opposed by Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston, which contributed $850,000 to the "no" campaign.

In Maine, opponents included some major players in the medical marijuana industry who worried about disruptions to their business model. In Arizona, the issue evoked uncertainty about how legalization might affect the flow of smuggled illegal drugs across the border with Mexico.

The latest polling showed 55 percent of likely voters supporting California's 62-page proposal. Still, it sowed deep division among marijuana advocates and farmers. In Northern California's famous Emerald Triangle, a region known for cultivating pot for decades, many small growers have longed for legitimacy but also fear being forced out of business by large corporate farms.

If "yes" votes prevail across the country, about 75 million people accounting for more than 23 percent of the U.S. population would live in states where recreational pot is legal. The jurisdictions where that's already the case - Alaska, Colorado, Oregon, Washington state and the District of Columbia - have about 18 million residents, or 5.6 percent of the population. Twenty-five states allow medical marijuana.

According to national polls, a solid majority of Americans support legalization. Gallup's latest survey gauged support at 60 percent, up from 14 percent from when the question was first posed in 1969. Gallup says 13 percent of U.S. adults currently report using marijuana, nearly double the percentage who reported using pot in 2013.

California voters rejected a similar initiative in 2010 after campaign leaders struggled to raise money and support for the lengthy ballot question that was hastily written by the owner of a small medicinal marijuana store.

Proposition 64 would allow people 21 and older to legally possess up to an ounce of weed and grow six marijuana plants at home. Varying tax rates would be levied on sales, with the money deposited into the state's Marijuana Tax Fund.

The movement to legalize marijuana faced its biggest test yet Tuesday as voters in nine states, including the nation's most populous, considered proposals to expand legal access to the drug, which is still forbidden by the federal government.

California, the first state to approve medical marijuana two decades ago, was among five states weighing whether to go beyond medical use and permit pot for adults for recreational purposes. The other states were Arizona, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada.

If California votes "yes," recreational cannabis would be legal along the entire West Coast, giving the legalization movement powerful momentum. That could spark similar efforts in other states and put pressure on federal authorities to ease longstanding rules that classify marijuana as a dangerously addictive drug with no medical benefits.

In general, the proposals for recreational pot would treat cannabis similar to alcohol. Consumption would be limited to people 21 or older and forbidden in most public spaces. Pot would be highly regulated and heavily taxed, and some states would let people grow their own.

Three more states - Florida, Arkansas and North Dakota - were deciding whether to permit marijuana for medical purposes. Montana voted on whether to ease restrictions on an existing medical marijuana law.

State-by-state polls showed most of the measures with a good chance of prevailing. But staunch opponents that included law enforcement groups and anti-drug crusaders urged the public to reject any changes. They complained that legalization would endanger children and open the door to creation of another huge industry that, like big tobacco, would be devoted to selling Americans an unhealthy drug.

The Massachusetts measure, for example, was opposed by Republican Gov. Charlie Baker, Boston Mayor Marty Walsh and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston, which contributed $850,000 to the "no" campaign.

In Maine, opponents included some major players in the medical marijuana industry who worried about disruptions to their business model. In Arizona, the issue evoked uncertainty about how legalization might affect the flow of smuggled illegal drugs across the border with Mexico.

The latest polling showed 55 percent of likely voters supporting California's 62-page proposal. Still, it sowed deep division among marijuana advocates and farmers. In Northern California's famous Emerald Triangle, a region known for cultivating pot for decades, many small growers have longed for legitimacy but also fear being forced out of business by large corporate farms.

If "yes" votes prevail across the country, about 75 million people accounting for more than 23 percent of the U.S. population would live in states where recreational pot is legal. The jurisdictions where that's already the case - Alaska, Colorado, Oregon, Washington state and the District of Columbia - have about 18 million residents, or 5.6 percent of the population. Twenty-five states allow medical marijuana.

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According to national polls, a solid majority of Americans support legalization. Gallup's latest survey gauged support at 60 percent, up from 14 percent from when the question was first posed in 1969. Gallup says 13 percent of U.S. adults currently report using marijuana, nearly double the percentage who reported using pot in 2013.

California voters rejected a similar initiative in 2010 after campaign leaders struggled to raise money and support for the lengthy ballot question that was hastily written by the owner of a small medicinal marijuana store.

Proposition 64 would allow people 21 and older to legally possess up to an ounce of weed and grow six marijuana plants at home. Varying tax rates would be levied on sales, with the money deposited into the state's Marijuana Tax Fund.

Most of the money would be spent on substance-abuse education and treatment. Some would go to repair environment damage inflicted by illegal marijuana growers and to train police to detect when people are driving under the influence of pot.

California's nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office estimated that state could collect up to $1 billion in taxes a year.
 

TheRealDman

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Trump already said his AG would not allow Fed MJ laws to be broken, in any state...better stock up America.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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California, Nevada and Massachusetts legalize recreational marijuana


Voters around the US have cast ballots for a diverse range of initiatives that seek to reform laws on marijuana, the death penalty, climate change and more. Below are the results as they come in for the most important contests.


Marijuana
Approved: California voters have approved recreational marijuana, a huge victory in the fight for cannabis legalization, paving the way for the largest commercial pot market in the US.

Approved: Massachusetts also voted for recreational pot, extending legal weed from coast to coast.

Approved: Nevada became the third state to approve a recreational cannabis law, making the west an even stronger region for marijuana sales.

Approved: Earlier in the night, Florida voters passed a constitutional amendment to legalize medical marijuana, the first victory in a string of high-profile cannabis measures on Tuesday’s state ballots.

Approved: North Dakota was the second state to approve medical weed, with the approval of Measure 5, which approves the use of marijuana to treat a number of diseases, including cancer, Aids, epilepsy and hepatitis C.


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Approved: Arkansas also passed a medical cannabis measure that would allow patients with specific conditions to buy medicine from dispensaries licensed by the government.

Rejected: Arizona was the first state to vote against its marijuana measure, with the news early on Wednesday morning that voters have rejected Proposition 205. The measure would have legalized recreational pot.

Advocates and opponents agree that California’s Proposition 64 is the most important cannabis measure America has seen and could be an international game-changer for marijuana policy in the US.

California, which recently overtook the UK to have the fifth largest economy in the world, is expected to have a recreational marijuana market greater than Colorado, Washington, Oregon and Alaska combined, said Ethan Nadelmann, executive director of the Drug Policy Alliance.

“When I talk to everybody from allies to government officials in Mexico and I ask them what’s it going to take to transform the debate,” he said, “the response to me is when California legalizes marijuana.”

As of early Wednesday, races were still too close to call in Maine, which had a recreational measure on the ballot, and Montana, which is considering a medical marijuana proposal.

Colorado and Washington became the first states to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012, paving the way for Oregon, and Alaska to follow suit.

As medical and retail cannabis operations have spread across the US, legal marijuana has become the fastest-growing industry in the US, with some analysts projecting sales to reach $22bn by 2020.



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People gather for an election watch party put on by supporters of a legal marijuana initiative in Phoenix, Arizona. Photograph: Nancy Wiechec/Reuters
Although dozens of states have also taken steps to authorize medical marijuana or decriminalize pot, cannabis remains an illegal drug at the federal level.

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Opponents of legalization, who have spent millions campaigning against this year’s measures, have argued that pot shops pose public safety risks and lead to an increase in adolescent drug abuse.

But supporters of the measures have argued that ending marijuana prohibition is critical for eliminating the war on drugs that has fueled mass incarceration and disproportionately affected people of color.

Some studies have also cast doubts on fears that legalization leads to higher rates of teen abuse, and backers of legalization further point to the big tax revenues the commercial industries have raised, exceeding initial projections.

Keith Humphreys, professor of psychiatry at Stanford University and an expert in drug policy, predicted that as more states legalize pot, there will be a continual decline in marijuana arrests.

“You’ll see plunging prices all over,” he added, “and you’re going to have a lot more consumption.”

Tuesday’s victories could encourage other states and Congress to pursue similar reforms, said Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project.

“It emboldens legislators to take on the issue and treat it more seriously.”
 

TheRealDman

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congress controls the budget and currently the justice department is prohibited from using federal money to impede state MMJ programs.I don't think that will change.
I said MJ...Trump is already on record saying he's ok with MMJ...but NOT Rec MJ. So where does that leave the current Rec states, and the new ones that won last night?
 

mauricem00

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I said MJ...Trump is already on record saying he's ok with MMJ...but NOT Rec MJ. So where does that leave the current Rec states, and the new ones that won last night?
there is a lot of big money behind recreational use. anyone in politics knows that you can't fight wall street.small commercial growers may not have a future but the big commercial farms have powerful backers. i'm more concerned about what trump owes Russia.states that approved recreational use represent 26% of the population.trump also said he wants to make abortion a crime.now that he is president his handlers better be able to control him.
 

VIANARCHRIS

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He's a scary orange clown. Fuck am I disappointed at the american people's intelligence....truly a stupid race. My opinion changed over night.
My opinion wasn't changed...just confirmed. This guy is going to have the launch codes for all those nukes. Let's hope he builds a fence on the northern border too.
 

TheRealDman

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When Trump gets his 1st classified intelligence briefing today on all the foreign policy stuff going on...his brain is gonna go into meltdown mode. He may have his advisors to help him, but he's gonna be screaming for all those general's help (you know, the ones he knows more than they do) to help him even remotely understand what's really going on.

After today's briefing I expect you're going to see a very different Trump (scared AF from the "smack upside the head" reality check that got dumped in his lap). He's soon gonna learn to hate his new job. He had/has no idea what a grey-haired trip he's in for!
 

doingdishes

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Obama was going to do all kinds of things when he got power and what did he do?
i saw him on a talk show and he was asked if he ran again, would he use the "Yes I can" slogan he paused and said no.
look at Guantanamo he signed for that to be closed in his first week in office-8 yrs later it's still open
 

TheRealDman

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Obama was going to do all kinds of things when he got power and what did he do?
i saw him on a talk show and he was asked if he ran again, would he use the "Yes I can" slogan he paused and said no.
look at Guantanamo he signed for that to be closed in his first week in office-8 yrs later it's still open
Yep, I'm encouraged by the gridlock in DC to hold Trump in check. All US laws need 60% Senate approval, that means he needs have to get 9-10 Dem's to sign off...can't see that happening anytime soon. Sux for the American people who are tired of the DC gridlock, but payback is a bitch. I think Trump is going to face the exact same issues Obama did while he had majority in the House and Senate in his first term.That damn 60% Senate vote is a also a bitch!
 

CalyxCrusher

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When Trump gets his 1st classified intelligence briefing today on all the foreign policy stuff going on...his brain is gonna go into meltdown mode. He may have his advisors to help him, but he's gonna be screaming for all those general's help (you know, the ones he knows more than they do)
All US presidents are assigned advisors(handlers) to teach them the ropes, this is nothing new
 

VIANARCHRIS

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All US presidents are assigned advisors(handlers) to teach them the ropes, this is nothing new
Most president-elect's have the mental capacity to absorb and process what they are told...Trump lacks the ability to listen to anyone. Or tell a truth. The USA is the laughing stock of the world for electing this idiot. With any luck at all, he'll have a massive jammer before he gets near the nukes. He's more unstable than the nut in N. Korea, imo.
 

dandyrandy

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Most president-elect's have the mental capacity to absorb and process what they are told...Trump lacks the ability to listen to anyone. Or tell a truth. The USA is the laughing stock of the world for electing this idiot. With any luck at all, he'll have a massive jammer before he gets near the nukes. He's more unstable than the nut in N. Korea, imo.
Bush II had handlers
 

CalyxCrusher

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Most president-elect's have the mental capacity to absorb and process what they are told...Trump lacks the ability to listen to anyone. Or tell a truth. The USA is the laughing stock of the world for electing this idiot. With any luck at all, he'll have a massive jammer before he gets near the nukes. He's more unstable than the nut in N. Korea, imo.
Oh I agree he's unstable. But not even CLOSE to N.Koreas Michelin Man. I get your point but thats far fetched. Look into who hes had executed, why and how and you'll see. Here's one for ya, he had his uncle executed via anti aircraft gun
 
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