LED vs HPS

bigtimebudman

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Im curious if anybody out there is using these new LED grow lights. They make some claims about energy savings, less heat and better yields. Can anybody out there give me any real information about them or is a guy better off with his HPS. For me cost is not that big an issue if they work so please dont just rant about them being expensive.
 

IAm5toned

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what he said^
you can get better results with CFL's than LED's at the moment. the LED's are not intense enough, and do not provide enough light for flowering....
 

BongFiend420

Active Member
Stick to the HPS, the led tecnology isn't ready
This is correct, you wont get the same results with any LED no matter the wattage as you will with any HID light. A 1000 watt HPS is like 100 000 lumens, unless you have the sun in your basement this is your solution.
 
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LMAO look there is people who say this and people who say that if you have the room and the $$$ do an experiment to answer your own question and start a thread the same strain and two different lights in two different grow rooms start to finish i will watch. My answer to your question now hps is the best to date i dont use it cause i hate heat issues. I use t-5 high output around the same price as a smaller hps but no extra cost of the cooling unit, all i need is a fan and a couple of carbon filters and im good to go.:weed:
 

speedyseedz

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i think after a while these threads are kind of like getting a dog by the tail and spinning it around and around as fast as you can while saying wheres the cats wheres the cats and then letting go.
 
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No more circles!!!

Hey all, hopefully this can clear up the questions on LED vs. HPS (specifically HID)!

Firstly, LED and HID lights are effective, but using them right since they differ in their output is essential to success.

LED's, for example, emit specific frequencies of light that are beneficial to the plant. However, the intensity of the light is extremely weak and fades quickly. For this reason, the LED has to be within a few inches of the plant to get enough light down to its lower branches during flowering which is ineffective considering the cost of LED's for the time being. On the other hand, there is very efficient power usage which is convenient for small grow ops of only a few small plants, and while the coverage is limited, it is not a complete waste of money since plants have been shown to grow well under quality LED lights that have broad spectrum ranges, known as tri-band or quad-band ~ (3 or 4 frequency type diodes installed into the LED to ensure that no spectrum of light which is vital to the plant is missed)

the LED light in the link is 5 band, and is a good source for information on LED products out there
http://www.prosourceworldwide.com/product_p/illuminator pro series 350w.htm


Now, while HID lights are power sucking monsters and every grower despises the heat (unless your a winter grower 12 months of the year), they are extremely effective for covering large areas of space with intense lighting. In addition, many lights (specifically hortilux), have worked tirelessly to perfect their formulas to produce correct lighting for plants. For those who don't know what seperates a good HID bulb from another, its the chemical make up of the gas inside the tube! When a company spends time researching how to perfect a light, they are combining different ratios of gaseous elements and seeing which ones produce the correct frequencies when a current of e- (electricity) runs through it. Thats why even though two HID bulbs may put out the same amount of lumens (light intensity), if its not the correct frequency it won't grow as well ;)!

From a personal perspective though, I would wait for LED lights to evolve, because in addition to the actual LED diodes becoming more powerful, people are only now starting to experiment with the correct frequencies for light so the LED kits will evolve rapidly over the coming months while HID lights have a solid track record, and are actually improving. If i was on an e- constraint though and had limited room, I would consider an LED and probably use the one listed in the link above.

Also, it looks as though plasma lights are evolving at a fast rate and I think that in a years time, most people would enjoy having 250,000 lumen output for only 700 Watt input ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrKO1tnNBY

If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask!
 
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