Led lights?
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What is there to research about LEDs? I've seen LED grows, and they suck. I'm a douche bag for what... Simply saying they suck? Hah! Loser
News of your upcoming departure made my day. Pretending to be growers. LOL, please show me what you're growing? LOL
You want to talk about being tough... you're too afraid to sign your own -reps. LOL. Leave you my name and address... why, so you can find out what a real grow looks like?
"Very easy to find well documented LED grows" -- Yet there is 0 documented grows where LEDs produce a worthwhile quantity of quality flowers. I'm sorry you got tricked into the LED gimmick, not my fault pal... If you want I'll sell you some of my ambient HPS light so you can finally grow something worth harvesting.
LEDs do suck, any respectable grower here will tell you the same. They are as big a gimmick as the superthrive label. I will break it down to you like this...
LED UFO - $599.00
I can buy 3 1000W HPS ballast, with reflectors, and 3 hortilux bulbs for that price...
LED UFO production - maybe an ounce per light, if you're lucky...
I won't even touch on the production a grow powered by the 3 1000w HPS systems... We're talking numbers you just won't be able to grasp.
So tell me now... what is so great about this "technology" that costs an arm and a leg(or is otherwise a pain in the ass to assemble) vs something tried and true, and is well documented in thousands of grow journals.
LEDs suck, their production sucks, you suck, your argument stinks, your vibe stinks, your ability to handle yourself is laughable.
don't be fooled... this is not an LED grow:
Don't be fooled! This is not an LED grow either...
I strongly encourage you to produce some good proof that LED is worthwhile for growing cannabis.
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This is the grow log where those pics came from.
Episode 3...Revenge of the LED - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News
Go check it out.
The reason you are a douche bag is that you keep mouthing off about something you don't have a clue about.
You're the kind of douche bag that thinks chicks don't have orgasisms because you can't get your girl off...
leave me your address and I'll come over and show you how to get her to make the O-face.
-Loki
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I'll check it out in a minute.
You have no insight on what I do or do not "have a clue about" -- the word is "orgasms" and they are a hoax
but my fiance fakes them very well to entertain me.Don't ask members here for their addresses... you don't make yourself sound like much more than a cop... Besides, not meeting me will save ya a black eye.
Sounds like I'm dead on... I could use a black eye, tough guy...I'll check it out in a minute.
You have no insight on what I do or do not "have a clue about" -- the word is "orgasms" and they are a hoax
Don't ask members here for their addresses... you don't make yourself sound like much more than a cop... Besides, not meeting me will save ya a black eye.
Offer still stands for me to show you how to take care of your girl,
and we can see how tough you really are...
-Loki
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Haha... in about 10 years, when you grow enough with those LEDs to produce the cash for a plane ticket to LA, let me know
natmoon
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The only leds that really produce a good amount of weed are high powered and expensive ones and you have to build them into boards yourself.
These are specific and expensive and it takes about 5 years to recoup your initial investment through electricity savings and the fact that for the most part they last a very long time.
No products that i know of use these high powered leds,they all use the basic cheap crap,which makes them look brighter,but they fail more quickly and lose the required spectrum quickly as well.
If anyone is really interested i will post links of my netherland supplier and the correct leds that you need to grow a good crop with,who ships worldwide and who i can vouch for as being cool as i have bought from them myself
These are specific and expensive and it takes about 5 years to recoup your initial investment through electricity savings and the fact that for the most part they last a very long time.
No products that i know of use these high powered leds,they all use the basic cheap crap,which makes them look brighter,but they fail more quickly and lose the required spectrum quickly as well.
If anyone is really interested i will post links of my netherland supplier and the correct leds that you need to grow a good crop with,who ships worldwide and who i can vouch for as being cool as i have bought from them myself
hey everyone... before you go wasting time checking that canna.com thread for "led success" dont bother... i've brought it here for you...
now thats what I call a harvest i0i0i0i0i0i
LOL Yeah, don't go there and find out GrowTech is full of shit... He picks the worst pic.... Why didn't you share a few others?
I think these would buy me a plane ticket to LA... I'm real close... PM me your address and I'll swing by...
-Loki
You're really clever... maybe no one will go here...
Episode 3...Revenge of the LED - Page 18 - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News
And find out that you're just a loud mouth and cheap shots are all you've got...
-Loki
natmoon
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Well like i said before if you want a good crop from leds you have to pay a lot out in initial outlay.
Power leds for proper growing are 5 watts each and not anything like a normal led that you might think of.
You have to build these units yourself and to be honest unless you really need to shear your electricity usage for reasons of stealth then they are not worth the investment or the hassle of building them.
It takes years to recoup your investment.
Each led is 17 euros about 30 dollars and you will need a lot of them.
If you buy these correct and expensive leds you will have good grow results but it will cost you a lot of money to buy and is hard work to install and build.
Here are the links to where you can buy them if you "need" them,for reasons of stealth as stealth is the only real reason to buy these kind of growing lamps.
Dont be fooled either,these "proper" leds get hot and will need to be cooled just as a hps setup would.
I do not work for any company and do not sell any lights.
This is from my own exp and extensive research.
Using low powered leds and ufos etc will never give you any where near hps/mh results,never,this is the only way to get good led results and it will cost you a lot of money
Blue:
LED 3mm UV (Schwarzlicht) 40mW - 10 Stück - günstig im Online Shop LED1.de
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED blue 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 7,1V
Current: 700mA
Wave Lenght: 470nm (blue)
Max. brightness: 58 Lumen[/FONT]
Red:
LED 3mm UV (Schwarzlicht) 40mW - 10 Stück - günstig im Online Shop LED1.de
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED red 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 4,4V
Current: 700mA
Wave Lenght: 625nm (red)
Max. Brightness: 147 Lumen[/FONT]
Power leds for proper growing are 5 watts each and not anything like a normal led that you might think of.
You have to build these units yourself and to be honest unless you really need to shear your electricity usage for reasons of stealth then they are not worth the investment or the hassle of building them.
It takes years to recoup your investment.
Each led is 17 euros about 30 dollars and you will need a lot of them.
If you buy these correct and expensive leds you will have good grow results but it will cost you a lot of money to buy and is hard work to install and build.
Here are the links to where you can buy them if you "need" them,for reasons of stealth as stealth is the only real reason to buy these kind of growing lamps.
Dont be fooled either,these "proper" leds get hot and will need to be cooled just as a hps setup would.
I do not work for any company and do not sell any lights.
This is from my own exp and extensive research.
Using low powered leds and ufos etc will never give you any where near hps/mh results,never,this is the only way to get good led results and it will cost you a lot of money
Blue:
LED 3mm UV (Schwarzlicht) 40mW - 10 Stück - günstig im Online Shop LED1.de
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED blue 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 7,1V
Current: 700mA
Wave Lenght: 470nm (blue)
Max. brightness: 58 Lumen[/FONT]
Red:
LED 3mm UV (Schwarzlicht) 40mW - 10 Stück - günstig im Online Shop LED1.de
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Prolight Power LED red 5 Watt[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Technical Data:[/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Case: Star-PCB with Aluminium-Cooler
Viewing Angle: 140°
Power: 4,4V
Current: 700mA
Wave Lenght: 625nm (red)
Max. Brightness: 147 Lumen[/FONT]
lol.... God you're pathetic....
Now my proof isn't good enough for you?
I thought you might be big enough to admit you were wrong,
I guess I was wrong.
LEDs are supposed to last for over 10 years..
what's 10 years worth of HID bulbs, balasts and extra power cost?
You don't wanna do that math do you?
-Loki
GrowTech
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LOL I've had ballast last several years... The bulbs aren't expensive, and the Hortilux bulbs have a pretty respectable life span, most of the time producing large quantities of flowers for quite a few grow cycles...
I'm not wrong... LED grows are a waste of time and money... if you have money to waste on an LED grow, go for it- but plenty of people who have purchased LED systems (regardless of my advising against it) come back and tell me they should have listened.
it's about the cost of production... when you produce large quantities of flowers, the cost of an HPS ballast, or bulb is irrelevant. when you harvest your LED grow... you're going to feel like shit wasting all sorts of money, and only growing small little fluffy buds... in fact, you'll probably accompany those fluffy buds with a loose manicure job just to keep some weight on it.
I'm not wrong... LED grows are a waste of time and money... if you have money to waste on an LED grow, go for it- but plenty of people who have purchased LED systems (regardless of my advising against it) come back and tell me they should have listened.
it's about the cost of production... when you produce large quantities of flowers, the cost of an HPS ballast, or bulb is irrelevant. when you harvest your LED grow... you're going to feel like shit wasting all sorts of money, and only growing small little fluffy buds... in fact, you'll probably accompany those fluffy buds with a loose manicure job just to keep some weight on it.
natmoon
Well-Known Member
It costs 3400 euros or 6800 dollars to build an equivalent set of 1 red and 1 blue led board lamps and thats just for the leds,and by equivalent i mean that is the same results of 2 x 1000 watt hps lamps.
All in all a cost of around 9000 dollars,but as you said it should last constantly for about 10 years.
Over 10 years it is cheaper and more efficient but i would say the majority of people that toke cant even afford a 400 watt hps so its not even a question for them,they can simply never afford it.
You should just wait until the price of those high powered leds drops drastically
All in all a cost of around 9000 dollars,but as you said it should last constantly for about 10 years.
Over 10 years it is cheaper and more efficient but i would say the majority of people that toke cant even afford a 400 watt hps so its not even a question for them,they can simply never afford it.
You should just wait until the price of those high powered leds drops drastically