Leaves not expanded/curling

dwarf

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I have some plants and they've been doing good. i put them in the ground at the end of april.

as of recently some of my plants leaves started to like collapse into themselves.

Instead of being open like this :leaf: like your hand with your fingers spread apart, the leaves are way closer and go under/over another.

Im going to go take a picture.

Also on another one of my plants the leafs starting curling upside down then pointing up.

Does anyone have any idea wha might be causing this
 

dwarf

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the first pic is black domina and you can see how the leaves arent like open like they used to be

the 2nd pic is purps and it's flowerng early i think, but for some reason the leafs started to turn upside down

3rd is bubba kush doin the same as the first
 

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itsgrowinglikeaweed

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It is OBVIOUS by the pictures that the plant has started to flower. And its got a whole bunch of 3 bladed leaves. Its just like a clone i have, which had just started to flower but I'm re-vegging it under 24/0 light. Its making 3 bladed leaves and the blades are all bunched together. I've seen other plants do this as well. They were also re-vegging.
That is why i believe that although your plant started to flower, it must get more than 12 hours of light still because its re-vegging. My question would be why did it start to flower.
 

bicycle racer

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if he vegged indoor under 18 or 24 hours of light and put them outside then they will flower outdoor at 14+ hours of light i learned this the hard way. you get leafy bud it sucks. so know a days i veg at 15 hours so when they go out during summer they dont flower immediately and during winter i can still flower outdoor after vegging indoors. most dispensaries veg with 18 to 24 hour light which is a problem for outdoor growers . recently i have started seeds to avoid this they will veg fine at 14 hours.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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And I found this excerpt of a conversation-
Quote- "Ok folks, im sure we are all mostly aware of the concept of re-vegging.... You take a sexually mature plant, flower it... for a week or so, then change its light cycle back to vegging... and what happens is.... you get very strange growth patterns, un symetric chutes, and even deformed twisted growth. In general the plants usually explode with growth in this phase."

Quote-"but those pattern you get also with plants that just matured some time ago and still not switched to flower - if you veg long enough you will find he same even without flowering your plant for a week to determine its sex."
 

bicycle racer

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revegging is one of the worst things that can happen its almost not worth dealing with some plants i culled as there was really no hope for a decent harvest. my whole season got screwed up never again. there is a good thread on international cannagraphic addressing the clone going outdoor flowering issues in socal very informative.
 

itsgrowinglikeaweed

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if he vegged indoor under 18 or 24 hours of light and put them outside then they will flower outdoor at 14+ hours of light i learned this the hard way. you get leafy bud it sucks. so know a days i veg at 15 hours so when they go out during summer they dont flower immediately and during winter i can still flower outdoor after vegging indoors. most dispensaries veg with 18 to 24 hour light which is a problem for outdoor growers . recently i have started seeds to avoid this they will veg fine at 14 hours.
BINGO! I knew it. +rep for you my friend.
 

bicycle racer

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thanks for the rep. i have dealt with this issue for the first time this year what a pain in the ass. i have learned how to get around it though. if he wants to continue to flower normally they can be covered to produce 12/12 i have done this and gotten normal harvests with a jtr and deep chunk clones. otherwise he needs to make light for at least 16 hours a day if he wants more veg growth before flowering.
 

dwarf

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The pictures I posted are of 3 different plants. The bubba kush has been eaten by bugs, and i tripped over the string LST'ing it and guillotined(topped) it.

The purps in the middle started flowering way early. The other ones are showering pistils but im not sure if they're flowering.

Got all the plants from the club as clones and put them in the ground right away. They were under 24/0
 

bicycle racer

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if your in socal or similar they will probably flower. where i am the days are a little over 14 hours but different strains may respond in a different manner hopefully they continue vegging for you. what i recommend which i have done is to make a veg chamber using cfls and fluoro tubes this way you can veg the clones that were on 24 hours light to the size you want then put them out they should flower immediately. otherwise as i said any light that you can put outside at night to keep the plants in some light(cfl) will work as well this is what growers in equatorial regions do to guarantee no early flowering. as the days in some parts of the world are always near 12/12.
 
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