woody333333
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a real light
l.e.ds vs hps
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bicit
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The sun isn't always a practical option. It's the only light I know of with enough gamma radiation to fix crappy genetics.
Street lights should be left in the parking lot.
woody333333
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you guys are all right and im wrong...... im gonna buy new lights from REALSTYLES
bicit
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That's the spirit. Now about that grammar....
REALSTYLES
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Never said I make them to sell. You are a little boy that needs to go to jail or be in a raid being like me at a warehouse that I was just dropping off some clones to downtown LA fool if I was broke can you explain how I can afford to make the change from hps to led. you haven't even grown enough or been through shit to even understand. Remember you're the same age as my kid. I just might be your dad.
REALSTYLES
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I knew you were retarded. Why in the hell would I put up a tutorial if I was gonna sell them?
KarmaPaymentPlan
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It would appear the church of hps is a little slow to the point they can't even read let alone understand what's going on around them lol
REALSTYLES
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Even funnier shit my lights are at 45% power due to it gets 85-90f, but I'm lucky it's been 70f. I won't go full blast until September Octoberish and by that time I'll have my perpetual cycle going. But I'm a closet grower.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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yeah commercial growers suck that's why i started.anyways those numbers don't mean shit to these people they're to intimidated to hook up red to red and black to black how are you gonna expect them to understand what light is?
REALSTYLES
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Better yet even calculating lux to lumen or lux to umols or lumen to umol which I'm trying to find the right equation. I should've took calculus like my father said when I was 16 30yrs ago lol. I told him why should I take it I won't need in life hahahaha.
Greengenes707
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I am not claiming to be a great grower. I pull average yields with hps and what I believe to be average to just above average led yields as well. But I do have results which is what matters. I use the highest quality and performance led's though, not a cheap route. But my results are the same as they were with hps, but with less input so I am happy. I would love to be able to get over 2/light though, don't get me wrong...that is the goal for me. Then I'll think about 3 when I can reach 2 first, but rock on for anyone who can hit that.
My results are consistent grow after grow, and now with upgrades they are getting better. A group of very intelligent people have come together in the here at RIU with help from betatestteam at icmags and have broken it all down into quantum math in the purest form and directly relates to photosynthesis. And when it is looked at in such a way it is clear as day why 95-99% led grows fall well short of their hps counter parts. But it also shows how to beat hps in correct way and actually be superior in what matters...yields. It has been a long time full of a ton of bullshit by led manufacturers. Even right now with the best parts available it takes 600-700 dissipation watts of tremendous efficiency to counter a 1000hps with any kind of energy savings. Prices aren't ridiculous for DIY but not dirt cheap like some hps setups. Then you do have to build it. Not for everyone understandibly. But it's only a matter of time before it's available as public norm like disco/blurple lights. By then DIY will be using diffused lasers, and the circle continues.
Anyways...my results to bring some sustenance to this thread.
LED:HPS Day 47
LED:HPS Day 55
LED:HPS
Start of flower on a ~5week veg and end of flower. Hit 800g on the left light
Another ~5week veg
My results are consistent grow after grow, and now with upgrades they are getting better. A group of very intelligent people have come together in the here at RIU with help from betatestteam at icmags and have broken it all down into quantum math in the purest form and directly relates to photosynthesis. And when it is looked at in such a way it is clear as day why 95-99% led grows fall well short of their hps counter parts. But it also shows how to beat hps in correct way and actually be superior in what matters...yields. It has been a long time full of a ton of bullshit by led manufacturers. Even right now with the best parts available it takes 600-700 dissipation watts of tremendous efficiency to counter a 1000hps with any kind of energy savings. Prices aren't ridiculous for DIY but not dirt cheap like some hps setups. Then you do have to build it. Not for everyone understandibly. But it's only a matter of time before it's available as public norm like disco/blurple lights. By then DIY will be using diffused lasers, and the circle continues.
Anyways...my results to bring some sustenance to this thread.
LED:HPS Day 47
LED:HPS Day 55
LED:HPS
Start of flower on a ~5week veg and end of flower. Hit 800g on the left light
Another ~5week veg
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Greengenes707
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One more...
Another ~5week veg grow
Like I said, I am not claiming to be the greatest. Just showing some real results like asked. Take it or leave for what it's worth.
Another ~5week veg grow
Like I said, I am not claiming to be the greatest. Just showing some real results like asked. Take it or leave for what it's worth.
a mongo frog
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To me they look the same. Great data. What strain?
KarmaPaymentPlan
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you do realize what you just admitted right?
a mongo frog
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Please don't say that I've said i hated led just cuz i run hps lamps. Ive never said that. Ive never knocked anyones garden before.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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lucky for me the woman of the house is a physics major she helps me do a lot of the math and calculations its fun we can come together and learn from eachother over some cannabis
Greengenes707
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Chill out. Clearly your words are not working. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Try a new approach.
Pictures speak louder than words...videos are even louder.
I am saying all that with all do respect for a fellow grower. But we have to be civilized for any progression to take place. Even if you feel others aren't.
REALSTYLES
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Sweet fuckin sweet Green.
KarmaPaymentPlan
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sorry just losing myself its rough when all you want them to do is read a couple official papers and all they want to do is call you wrong, you gotta be fast or they will just plow right over any reasoning you gotta catch them when you can or they'll just keep running