l.e.ds vs hps
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REALSTYLES
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I don't run Disco lights anymore I make HPS KILLAS and if I can make the cheap Chinese leds outperform hps that says a lot and also I have 1 adjust a wing left the Avenger with double moguls for sale do you want to buy it plus 2 Galxy Digi ballast
REALSTYLES
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Where's the og? I don't see any
patrickkawi37
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There's no pics on the laptop of it . After this ones done and I get time I will upload
REALSTYLES
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You sir are losing right now. I'm breaking you down and you know it.
patrickkawi37
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lol. Your a troll . Good luck with your closet grow bruh
REALSTYLES
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Why not six or seven perpetually growing. I'm testing new strains and cross bred a few strains like thin mint, GDP, Skywalker, Death star,Incredible Bulk and Platinum Cookies that I have sprouted and vegged and about to sex them. Skywalker now a short fat wide leaf bitch
REALSTYLES
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Wrong I'm a Gargoyle and you sir have been Anthony Johnsoned maybe look up his name and you'll figure out what I'm talking about and I win hahahaha leds are better
patrickkawi37
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I'm switching all my lights out as we speak
REALSTYLES
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haha yeah but here's a pic of my Skywalker which I'll rename because I bred it
Lankiness gone and the stock is thicker than a #2 pencil
Tim Fox
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Having read back over this thread, I must say, I am more impressed by people who for what ever reasons in life are forced to grow for themselves inside of small spaces, a dresser, a closet, a refridgerator, a tool cabinet. These types have to put such thought and creativity and effort into thier situation, into thier stealth applications, into training the plant to fit the space. And when they harvest, they have pride in thier work. I have seen thick buds come out of PC cases that some guy grew in his bedroom without anyone suspecting and he is happy at 420 in the afternoon. Those who have the means to rent a wharehouse and just daisy chain together hydro buckets and daisy chain together endless 1000k bulbs inside of hoods, its just repetition , more cords more buckets more bulbs more space, lots of head room, no need to worry about noise, (those concrete walls sheild everything), the idea of 100 pounds per harvest or 1 ounce per harvest , its not the amount that impresses me. Its the effort, the ingenuity, the willingness to make it happen, especially in states where it is a crime to do so. So my hats off to those to make due despite their circumstances, if you use a bulb and make it work aweseome, if you DIY your own LED and your rockin it, Awesome! if you mad it thru your grow to harvest in your dresser , awesome, if you made it thru and got 100 pounds out of your warehouse, good job, I hope you cut those in need some good deals and have some integrity along the way.
Happy 420 to all of you
The Fox
patrickkawi37
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I didn't mean to knock anyone during the pissing match. I have respect for hobbyists most definitely because I started as one. What I'm saying is, there is no credibility... I'm not going to listen to a hobbyist say that leds are better that hps hands down blah blah. They don't know the circumstances and the changes you have to make and the variables you must stay contained in dealing with leds vs hps. You can say it's all the same.. But when I went from a hobbyist to a larger grower it was a hell of a lot more than just doing the same thing more times. Let me talk trash about your job and say anyone can do it and see how you feel. Growing cannabis this day and age is unprofitable unless you are a badass. I challenge Anyone who thinks they can turn a profit on a larger scale to give it a try. this hobby will make a grown man cry
Sativied
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Figured I post some more examples to expand your perspective...
1.2gpw gavita run...^
This one's still going...
From an experienced Gavita grower who grows under Dimlux 1000watt Extreme now.
Can you imagine his response if I were to suggest replacing his 1k watters with cobs
Just two out of thousands... don't worry, I'll post more.
Cobs better than HPS... gtfo....
Noobs...
Silly how people want to bitch on commercial growers as if they are evil corporations lol... what a load a of horse shit... I'm talking small growers who grow quality that can be sold to shops. These are the best examples you will ever see when it comes to comparing quality and quantity. If with the LED examples and comparisons your reference frame is limited to the micro an hobby grows in this subforum this subforum needs a disclaimer at the top of every page.
1.2gpw gavita run...^
This one's still going...
From an experienced Gavita grower who grows under Dimlux 1000watt Extreme now.
Can you imagine his response if I were to suggest replacing his 1k watters with cobs
Just two out of thousands... don't worry, I'll post more.
Cobs better than HPS... gtfo....
Noobs...
Silly how people want to bitch on commercial growers as if they are evil corporations lol... what a load a of horse shit... I'm talking small growers who grow quality that can be sold to shops. These are the best examples you will ever see when it comes to comparing quality and quantity. If with the LED examples and comparisons your reference frame is limited to the micro an hobby grows in this subforum this subforum needs a disclaimer at the top of every page.
patrickkawi37
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Holy fucking fuck. My next office is going to be gavitas your the third person to wow me with the damn things. I grow too big of trees right now I can't keep the 3 feet distance or else I would switch up the room I have going . Dude. Nice workFigured I post some more examples to expand your perspective...
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1.2gpw gavita run...^
This one's still going...
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View attachment 3400090
From an experienced Gavita grower who grows under Dimlux 1000watt Extreme now.
Can you imagine his response if I were to suggest replacing his 1k watters with cobs
Just two out of thousands... don't worry, I'll post more.
Cobs better than HPS... gtfo....
View attachment 3400099
Noobs...
Silly how people want to bitch on commercial growers as if they are evil corporations lol... what a load a of horse shit... I'm talking small growers who grow quality that can be sold to shops. These are the best examples you will ever see when it comes to comparing quality and quantity. If with the LED examples and comparisons your reference frame is limited to the micro an hobby grows in this subforum this subforum needs a disclaimer at the top of every page.
Sativied
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None of those are mine, just recent grows from the local dutch grow forums where gavita has been popular for years (the admin now works for gavita). Not even the best examples. Lots of "bread growers", people with tents/closets who pay some of their bills/mortgage with it. It's in fact how many dutch coffeeshops are partly supplied for decades. Some of these guys do nearly 6 runs a year (amnesia haze clones, little to no veg but veg under HPS).
For some more examples of gavita results see this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/t/questions-about-useing-gavitas-in-tent.860282/page-2
Growing trees vs a SoG (whether many plants or cropped) is one of the first differences between US and NL grows that stood out for me. I'll post some amnesia haze examples later.
I veg 4 weeks from seed roughly, but the first two is under 54w T8.
I really don't see the point but if it helps, these are some of mine:
Skywalker Kush 2/3rd of right side in front:
Skywalker kush bottom pic, chocolate fondue at the top:
chocolate fondue:
cross based on above:
6 plants (cannalope haze, clones, others all from seed)
For some more examples of gavita results see this thread: https://www.rollitup.org/t/questions-about-useing-gavitas-in-tent.860282/page-2
Growing trees vs a SoG (whether many plants or cropped) is one of the first differences between US and NL grows that stood out for me. I'll post some amnesia haze examples later.
I veg 4 weeks from seed roughly, but the first two is under 54w T8.
I really don't see the point but if it helps, these are some of mine:
Skywalker Kush 2/3rd of right side in front:
Skywalker kush bottom pic, chocolate fondue at the top:
chocolate fondue:
cross based on above:
6 plants (cannalope haze, clones, others all from seed)
Sativied
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Ran out of pic space...
Oldie:
8 years ago, 400w:
Again, I'm just an average grower here in NL. I bought my first clones (orange bud) from a grow shop nearly 20 years ago. No haven't been growing since, it's just something so many people do and have done here at some point or another. Not just 'guys', but their parents as well. As eager as the trolls here are to discredit my experience, I've seen more than a lot and am not easily impressed by a few frosty buds or a gpw (something many beginners here achieve after a couple of grows following a tried and true HPS setup).
Oldie:
8 years ago, 400w:
Again, I'm just an average grower here in NL. I bought my first clones (orange bud) from a grow shop nearly 20 years ago. No haven't been growing since, it's just something so many people do and have done here at some point or another. Not just 'guys', but their parents as well. As eager as the trolls here are to discredit my experience, I've seen more than a lot and am not easily impressed by a few frosty buds or a gpw (something many beginners here achieve after a couple of grows following a tried and true HPS setup).
REALSTYLES
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Funny thing is I'm not a hobby grower and from the little use of these cobs I can't be but happier than a fly landing on shit. My tents are 79f and no ac. This grow I have right now will be my first cob flower and I'm only gonna use 744 watts to cover a 4x8 area to test. I can turn my shit up to 1650 for the same area but this is just a test. I've got to top my plants today because how fast they grow under my lights and no more seeds for me takes too damn long and it's affecting my clone business. My next test will be to see how much a can get off of one plantFigured I post some more examples to expand your perspective...
View attachment 3400082
1.2gpw gavita run...^
This one's still going...
View attachment 3400085
View attachment 3400090
From an experienced Gavita grower who grows under Dimlux 1000watt Extreme now.
Can you imagine his response if I were to suggest replacing his 1k watters with cobs
Just two out of thousands... don't worry, I'll post more.
Cobs better than HPS... gtfo....
View attachment 3400099
Noobs...
Silly how people want to bitch on commercial growers as if they are evil corporations lol... what a load a of horse shit... I'm talking small growers who grow quality that can be sold to shops. These are the best examples you will ever see when it comes to comparing quality and quantity. If with the LED examples and comparisons your reference frame is limited to the micro an hobby grows in this subforum this subforum needs a disclaimer at the top of every page.
that Blue Dream was 4x4 wide and yielded 9oz
patrickkawi37
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Limbolimbo68 on YouTube lol. I saw that video when I first started growing and almost shit my pants. those dudes kill It with no veg. My hat is off to them because I can not do that lol.
patrickkawi37
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9 zones from a 4x4 area Is an epic fail in my honest opinion . By hobbyist I mean your not supplying any dispensaries. your only growing meds for youFunny thing is I'm not a hobby grower and from the little use of these cobs I can't be but happier than a fly landing on shit. My tents are 79f and no ac. This grow I have right now will be my first cob flower and I'm only gonna use 744 watts to cover a 4x8 area to test. I can turn my shit up to 1650 for the same area but this is just a test. I've got to top my plants today because how fast they grow under my lights and no more seeds for me takes too damn long and it's affecting my clone business. My next test will be to see how much a can get off of one plant
that Blue Dream was 4x4 wide and yielded 9oz
