Kratom

John0156

John0156

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just saw some kratom at my Local headshop so i decided to do some research on them but have seen mixed reviews so i was wondering if any one here had any experience with it and if it was worth trying. also dosage information would also be helpfull if anyone has any knowledge on the subject. thanks
 
NP88

NP88

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Is it a kratom extract or just powdered/shredded leaf? There are several Kratom threads here, probably on the 2nd or 3rd page of the HS section. Just search this section for "kratom" and you will find info on strength on dose of several different strains.
 
ANC

ANC

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Lovely way to spend a sunday morning. if its leaves, about 3.5 to 4g should be good for a first time.
Just mix with some water and chug it down fast, add more water to glass to catch leftovers.
 
John0156

John0156

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went and picked some up yesterday ate 5 grams of thai capsules and smoked a couple bowls was very enjoyable, but a little hard on the stomach since i have no opiate tolerance.
 
canndo

canndo

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So no "gimme" just because isn't a true opiate then? Alas as there are times when a good dump is as gratifying as a good dose.
 
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BenRHx

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If I take methadone every day, I'm at 54. Mgs now I was at 190 mgs a few years ago, would I even get an opiate high from kratom?
 
ANC

ANC

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maybe if you can drop the methadone a bit more before the transition. The kratom will block opiod receptors makeing any atempts at useing opioids after is less successfyll and pleasurable.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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One strain that should tickle your fancy is Green Malay Kratom. Green Malay is said to have strong opiate action comparable to oxycontin in the way that its stimulating and sedating at the same time. Great natural resource and a plausible alternative to winging off traditional pharmaceutical opiates.
 
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BenRHx

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Thanks for the info but what about while beingnon methadone? Methadone blocks most opiates but is kratom a true opiate? Would I feel the effects while still on methadone?
 
ANC

ANC

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no, i don't think its a good alterative or comparable.
it is not an opioid, it just bids to the same receptors, it would most likeley block both the methadone and opium products to some extent.
 
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BenRHx

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And as far as price about how much for that specific kind? And is it legal? Just wondering? Also, sorry to bounce back from two similiar threads, I didn't know I had responses on both
 
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BenRHx

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ANC, that's kinda what I thought, is it a true opiate? Is there anything out there that could ever compare to the good opiates lol??? If there is let me know because I can't find any good legal alternatives
 
Thedillestpickle

Thedillestpickle

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I wouldnt buy it from a headshop, at least not my headshop, the markups are absolutely insane!(around 10 times markup)


Ok so I have some 30x Thai Kratom(3 grams) here and some 5x Maeng Da Kratom(15 grams)

I don't do opiates more than a few times a year... but I found 80mg of oxycontin to be quite an interesting experience(yea I barfed but it was kinda nice? :)

So how dickered can I get on this stuff? and how much should I take to get really well dosed?
 
Thedillestpickle

Thedillestpickle

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I don't think it will work if your on methadone

Ive read it is used by people recovering from opium addiction, so I assume it works in a similar way. If your opiate receptors are being blocked than I can't see it working
 
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BenRHx

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Yea that's what I was thinking, but if kratom isnt a true opiate then maybe the methadone won't block it, i don't know, is kratom an opiate?
 
ANC

ANC

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If you take too much before building up a tolerance, you will be quite motionsick, so don't chase that dragon.
That being said its a realy nice relaxing experience when you are all wound up, very much like pot, and even beter in combination.
Hell its even nice with a glass of wine after, but that potentiates it a bit and you need to take a little less to avoid the first problem.

Kratom is not an opiate
 
Unnk

Unnk

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BenRHx said:
Yea that's what I was thinking, but if kratom isnt a true opiate then maybe the methadone won't block it, i don't know, is kratom an opiate?
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as anc said

kratom is not a opiate

it just hits the mu receptors

as well as others :D

Of the two main active constituents, mitragynine has been studied more thoroughly than 7-hydroxymitragynine. At lower doses, Mitragynine exhibits a yohimbine-like binding to alpha-adrenergic receptors, as well as some binding to the delta opioid receptors. As doses increase, binding to delta receptors increases, and in yet higher doses, crossover to mu receptors occurs.
7-hydroxymitragynine was only recently understood to be the main active ingredient. Limited animal research suggests it is a potent opiate agonist, but with a ceiling effect that limits the potential for respiratory depression and euphoria. No fatal overdose of kratom is known to have occurred.


from the wiki post
 
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BenRHx

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I wonder if there's anything else out there besides kratom and wild lettuce that compares to good opiates
 
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