Job Market Sucks Huh??? Don't Get Desperate!

redivider

Well-Known Member
We all know unemployment is record-high.

Oficially unemployment is around 10%... Those numbers are based on unemployment claims, and do not reflect the ppl that have to do with a part-time job, while still looking for full time employment... people like me...

Thing is that I apply to 5-10 jobs per day. I try to keep away from door to door marketing, commission only jobs, or other scammish job offers...

Today i get a response from a pretty legit sounding company, from this woman... It was a very robo-mail looking message, but the introduction was personalized (i think)but the name and number come up safe, ripoffreport doens't have anything, scam.com has nothing on the company.... i decide it looks legit and respond...

next email message is where the RED FLAG comes in.... the message says that in order to complete the application process i need to click through different things, and sign up for certain services 'free of charge'....

here's the thing, I went to college, I took HR courses, and I know for a fact that a company cannot force you to buy a product, sign up for a service, or anything of the sort, as a condition for employment... it's unethical and some places have deemed the practice illegal....

point is:

if your looking for a job, keep your eyes open... a lot of people out there trying to take your money.

A COMPANY CANNOT FORCE YOU TO BUY A PRODUCT OR SIGN UP FOR A SERVICE AS A CONDITION FOR EMPLOYMENT.

EVEN IF THE COMPANY HAS NO PRIOR RED-FLAGS IT CAN BE OUT FOR YOUR CASH.

i'm good at using google to scour the web for information, very VERY good, and this company seemed 100% legit.

yet to 'complete' the application they wanted me to sign up for these programs from third party companies which had NOTHING TO DO with what is called 'essential functions of a job'...

I actually pointed that out to the 'HR lady', and she responded very politely and concisely, even though i was kind of a hardass.....

i have since lost interest in the 'job' since it's obviously a scam...

so remember:

A COMPANY CANNOT ASK YOU TO SIGN UP FOR SERVICES, OR PURCHASE A PRODUCT AS A CONDITION FOR EMPLOYMENT.

A COMPANY MAY LOOK AT YOUR PRIOR HISTORY, EXPERIENCE, EDUCATION, AND BACKGROUND.... they might ask if you've been arrested, they cannot force you to answer, that's illegal, they can only ask if you've been convicted of a crime.

I DUG A LITTLE DEEPER AND THE HIRING ORGANIZATION WAS PART OF A CONGLOMERATE ADVERTISING FIRM WITH ENOUGH LEGAL MUMBO-JUMBO SEPERATING THEM AS MAKING THEM ONE.... THE PARENT COMPANY OWNS 4 SUBSIDIARIES, THAT EACH OWN A STAKE IN ANOTHER MARKETING COMPANY, WHICH IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF OVER 1000 DOMAIN NAMES, ONE OF WHICH WAS THE ONE THAT WAS TRYING TO RIP ME OFF.

BE CAREFUL OUT THERE... THERE'S PPL THAT KNOW HOW TO MANIPULATE THE SYSTEM TO TAKE YOUR MONEY AND RUN...
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
i gotta differentiate betwee MLM and job opportunities.

and MLM company sells you product for you to resale. they are not hiring you for a job. you are entering a distribuitorship contract with them. so you HAVE to purchase the inventory in order to become a part of the 'company'.

but really, you aren't part of the company, the contract you sign says you are part of the logistical pipeline as an independent agent... sort of like walmart is an independent agent selling x candy. but you can also go to walgreens and buy x candy.... they aren't part of x candy company, they just sell their stuff....
 

nl3004.kind

Active Member
also : specific example, they can not make you purchase a credit report (or even make you fill one out) as a grounds for hiring... what the scam is is that there isn't a job, just a way to strip lots of personal info so they can use your id... also once the day has passed, then they can charge you for their service (typically 15 to 30 dollars per month, every month)... what a bunch of scumbags...
 

loquacious

Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to common sense? I have always believed that if you were "taken" by a scam then you got what you deserved. That's why I like working for myself (except those days when I want to kick my bosses ass)!
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
Whats so bad with being forced to purchase something?
they're not forcing anybody to purchase something.

they're misleading a job seeker. the job seeker thinks it's an application process when it's just a marketing scheme. and it could cost the job seeker hundreds of dollars, or more....

it's fraud.... and it works b/c the classified section in the newspaper, the job section on CL, even monster.com is full of scamish 'job offers...

half of these companies operate out of mail boxes, which are owned by a company operating out of another mail box 700 miles away, which is owned by another mail box somewhere................
 

MrDank007

Well-Known Member
It's unfortunate, but these things tend to come out of the woodwork to pray on people when they are desperate.
 

thedoc08

New Member
A COMPANY MAY LOOK AT YOUR PRIOR HISTORY, EXPERIENCE, EDUCATION, AND BACKGROUND.... they might ask if you've been arrested, they cannot force you to answer, that's illegal, they can only ask if you've been convicted of a crime

IIRC it's unlawful to ask if you've been arrested, only if you've been convicted of a crime. Might vary state to state, but I doubt it.
 
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