January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

DIY-HP-LED

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Pocket pardon?

it can’t be a thing.
I'm afraid it is, if Donald wrote them after he left office and pre dated them before sale, how would they know? Rudy has a pardon, there is no other explanation, if he has one others do, but only family and certain of the elite, most didn't get one. You will only find out when they indict them, or call them as witnesses in court, though the J6 panel could haul them in and ask under oath.
 

CunningCanuk

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I'm afraid it is, if Donald wrote them after he left office and pre dated them before sale, how would they know? Rudy has a pardon, there is no other explanation, if he has one others do, but only family and certain of the elite, most didn't get one. You will only find out when they indict them, or call them as witnesses in court, though the J6 panel could haul them in and ask under oath.
trump also wrote diploma certificates. What are they worth?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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trump also wrote diploma certificates. What are they worth?
Well they do give up their 5th amendment rights and would have to testify about every crime they know about, a life sentence for Rudy! However reveling the extent of presidential pardons by testing them with J6 panel testimony would be interesting and perhaps something already done in private under oath. A lot of pardons over J6 might sway the election in November, pardons are generally very unpopular.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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If Donald by a miracle escapes prison, he would win the GOP nomination for 2024. He got 73 million votes in 2020 after 4 years of chaos and incompetence. How many would he get in 2024, running against Biden, 60 million, 80 million? Could he run from his prison cell? As a political prisoner of course! By the time the SCOTUS settles anything the election will be over and Donald will rule America from his jail cell. He rules the republican party now FFS and he ain't even in power, if he pulls his base they are fucked and know it, no matter how much the cheat. He's been stealing all their small donor and bigoted moron cash for years with the big lie con and committing and wire mail fraud while doing it.
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Trump "complained that Pence was being whisked" to safety on 1/6. Clear evidence of Trump's intent.
9,157 views May 27, 2022 The New York Times recently reported that, while the attack on the US Capitol raged on January 6, 2021, Donald Trump complained that Vice President Mike Pence was being whisked away to safety. Beyond the obvious horrific nature of such a statement, this statement is curious as it seems to contradict the criminal scheme he, John Eastman and others had hatched to stop the certification of Joe Biden's election win by delaying the vote certification as long as possible, hoping to throw the question to the states. This video discusses what this statement, as related by Mark Meadows, tells us regarding the true intent of Donald Trump on and around January 6.
 

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McCarthy questions Jan. 6 panel’s legitimacy in response to subpoena
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) responded to a subpoena from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack in a letter from his lawyer on Friday that questioned the panel’s legitimacy and requested more information from the panel.

“All valid and lawfully issued subpoenas must be respected and honored. Unfortunately, the words and actions of the Select Committee and its members have made it clear that it is not exercising a valid or lawful use of Congress’ subpoena power,” McCarthy lawyer Elliot S. Berke said in an an 11-page letter.
 

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McCarthy questions Jan. 6 panel’s legitimacy in response to subpoena
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) responded to a subpoena from the House Select Committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack in a letter from his lawyer on Friday that questioned the panel’s legitimacy and requested more information from the panel.

“All valid and lawfully issued subpoenas must be respected and honored. Unfortunately, the words and actions of the Select Committee and its members have made it clear that it is not exercising a valid or lawful use of Congress’ subpoena power,” McCarthy lawyer Elliot S. Berke said in an an 11-page letter.
I want him to go down hard.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Kevin McCarthy decides to commit crime of contempt of Congress rather than "snitch" on Donald Trump
76,691 views May 28, 2022 Covering up the federal crimes of others is, itself, a federal crime. Given new reporting, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has apparently decide to commit the crime of contempt of Congress- defying a lawfully issued congressional subpoena - rather than testify about the crimes of Donald Trump. But somebody really should tell McCarthy to "button-up buttercup" because he will also be committing the crimes of accessory after the fact (18 US Code section 3) and misprision of a felony (18 US Code section 4) if he decides to conceal the crimes of Donald Trump. These crimes - accessory and misprision - are foundational to our rule of law. This video discusses the implications and consequences if McCarthy continues on this lawless path.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Delay until after the election.
It won't do him any good with Biden in the white house and Garland at the DOJ, his goose will be cooked long before November, even if the trial is held after the election. Grand juries are hearing testimony now on some aspects of the conspiracy and even though they are not public, it will add to the mountain of evidence against him and others. They are caught up in the system now and it will grind them up, no matter what happens in November.
 

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It won't do him any good with Biden in the white house and Garland at the DOJ, his goose will be cooked long before November, even if the trial is held after the election. Grand juries are hearing testimony now on some aspects of the conspiracy and even though they are not public, it will add to the mountain of evidence against him and others. They are caught up in the system now and it will grind them up, no matter what happens in November.
His goose may be cooked but good for the Republicans. Always a pardon later if need be, he hopes.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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they won't pardon him, they want to sweep him so far under the rug, he'll be adopted by a clan of dust bunnies, even the freedumb caucus members are trying to distance themselves from him as much as they can and still feed off of his voter base teat
Trump might have already given him the pardon, we will know when he is indicted or is compelled as a witness, perjury if he has a pardon in his pocket, perjury if he lies and contempt if he clams up. He has other legal problems too, like false voter registration etc.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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How many fake electors and their enablers in the statehouses will be among them? They've got dates with grand juries and juries. The fake elector scheme should clean out a lot of the fanatics in multiple battleground states, it involved hundreds of the bastards.

Sounds like another criminal conspiracy to me, this one run by Steve Bannon. They had better hope they win in November or can gridlock the nation again, but even then the DOJ and FBI will be in among them.
 

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Jan. 6 panel lays out inquiries for Jordan, extends subpoena deadline
The Jan. 6 committee has extended the deadline for Rep. Jim Jordan (R) to comply with its subpoena, laying out in a letter its fullest accounting yet of the information it would like to discuss with the Ohio congressman.

The correspondence to Jordan comes after he wrote a six-page letter to the panel demanding to see the bulk of evidence it has compiled concerning his actions after the 2020 election and leading up to Jan. 6.

The letter outlines eight topics on inquiry, including previously unreported efforts by Jordan to reach then-Attorney General Bill Barr the day before the 2020 election was called and to speak with then Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows about “efforts to pressure Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolfe (D) to audit his state’s election results.”

 
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