is this the middle ages?

Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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what the fuck is a "neutral indifference path"...?........if you're going to make phrases up out of your ass, be prepared to define them....you expect people who disagree with each other to just "agree to disagree" ?...guess it depends on how strongly they feel about what they're disagreeing about....the whole "neutral indifference path" is pretty un-trod in the real world.....the real world seems much more likely to have biased disagreement paths....to have religious and racial war paths....to have a path to the graveyard after the stronger kills the weaker for being in their way....that's the real world.....
neutral indifference path.....:roll:
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
Kicking black people out of stores is racist, not peaceful or mutual

You’re a racist
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Yes if the reason why a person doesn't want to associate with somebody is due to the other persons race, that could be considered racist, Captain Obvious.

Of course forcing an unwilling person to use their body and property to serve another person is involuntary servitude / slavery.

You propose to force people to serve others, to end slavery. Which is a circular argument and falls apart from it's own contradiction. Your claim that I'm a racist is a weak display of your intellect. on second thought it might be all you got, false allegations.

Still winning.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
what the fuck is a "neutral indifference path"...?........if you're going to make phrases up out of your ass, be prepared to define them....you expect people who disagree with each other to just "agree to disagree" ?...guess it depends on how strongly they feel about what they're disagreeing about....the whole "neutral indifference path" is pretty un-trod in the real world.....the real world seems much more likely to have biased disagreement paths....to have religious and racial war paths....to have a path to the graveyard after the stronger kills the weaker for being in their way....that's the real world.....
neutral indifference path.....:roll:
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A neutral indifference path might be where you disagree with how another person lives their life, chooses to use their body and their property etc, but they aren't preventing you from using your body or your property as you like.

So you leave them alone as long as they leave you alone. I'm a little surprised you had to ask, but I hope that satisfies your question.

Yes of course the real world is full of people trying to control others, are you saying it would be a good thing to become one of them and add to the mess?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
the people who are being "forced to serve you" in your scenario are either employs or owners of a business. it's their job to serve you, within certain guidelines. if they're being paid to serve you, that's not force, it's their job. as long as you aren't behaving in an offensive way, they have no reason to deny you service. owners usually won't deny people service for capricious reasons, as it's very bad for business....you keep coming up with scenarios that make little to no sense....if you don't want to "serve" people, why are you in a service industry? it's right in the name....
if i go into a store, and am not being rude or acting in an offensive manner, i have a right to be waited on, to be "served" by the employ who is in a "service" industry...how is that in any way forcing anyone to do anything? except the job they're getting paid to do....
and why does it matter what color any of us are? i don't care what ethnicity the person working in a store is, i care whether they answer my questions civilly, and sell me what i want in a timely fashion....they can have 4 titties and a tail for all i fucking care, as long as they're doing their job....
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I can see you are having comprehension problems, maybe later I'll address some of your errors of assumption and make a monkey out of you.

Tail? Hmm, hadn't thought of that, would you prefer to be an old world monkey or a new world monkey ?
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Rob Roy said:
A neutral indifference path might be where you disagree with how another person lives their life, chooses to use their body and their property etc, but they aren't preventing you from using your body or your property as you like.

So you leave them alone as long as they leave you alone. I'm a little surprised you had to ask, but I hope that satisfies your question.

Yes of course the real world is full of people trying to control others, are you saying it would be a good thing to become one of them and add to the mess?
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you don't have to be surprised that i asked, i understand the concept...i don't understand how you can expect it to happen that way...it never has....Einstein defined insanity as performing the same action over and over and expecting different results each time....works the other way...why would this magically start to work when it never ever has before, in the history of mankind? did we all evolve, and i missed the memo? did our global society take a big step forward that i was napping for? why do you expect something that has never once worked before to start working now?
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you don't have to be surprised that i asked, i understand the concept...i don't understand how you can expect it to happen that way...it never has....Einstein defined insanity as performing the same action over and over and expecting different results each time....works the other way...why would this magically start to work when it never ever has before, in the history of mankind? did we all evolve, and i missed the memo? did our global society take a big step forward that i was napping for? why do you expect something that has never once worked before to start working now?
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For the record... There is no evidence that Einstein ever said that. The first known reference to that phrase is an NA book from 1981. But, since you are likely talking to our resident delusional pedarast who routinely uses fabricated quotes... have at it
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex… It takes a touch of genius – and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.
The important thing is to not stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing.
Concern for man and his fate must always form the chief interest of all technical endeavors. Never forget this in the midst of your diagrams and equations.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.
Weak people revenge. Strong people forgive. Intelligent people ignore.

he did say a few things i like....too bad the insanity quote didn't originate with him, i liked that one....always made sense to me....
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Yes if the reason why a person doesn't want to associate with somebody is due to the other persons race, that could be considered racist, Captain Obvious.

Of course forcing an unwilling person to use their body and property to serve another person is involuntary servitude / slavery.

You propose to force people to serve others, to end slavery. Which is a circular argument and falls apart from it's own contradiction. Your claim that I'm a racist is a weak display of your intellect. on second thought it might be all you got, false allegations.

Still winning.
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So the black people get kicked out of stores because of their race but you’re not racist

That doesn’t make any sense
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
So the black people get kicked out of stores because of their race but you’re not racist

That doesn’t make any sense
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No, I'm not racist because I judge people as individuals rather than by their race.

What doesn't make sense is how you think by forcing unwilling people to associate and serve other people against their will, you can somehow eliminate the things which are wrong about forced servitude. It's impossible.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Were you born an asshole or did you spend years learning it?

What's the age of consent again?
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So, what you're really saying is, my exposing the contradiction in your beliefs has made you feel uncomfortable and you're too obstinate to accept that you have no argument to refute my assertion. Therefore you cry. Like a baby.

The age of consent varies from person to person, but generally speaking the younger a person is, the less likely they have developed the wherewithal to understand the implications of their choices.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you don't have to be surprised that i asked, i understand the concept...i don't understand how you can expect it to happen that way...it never has....Einstein defined insanity as performing the same action over and over and expecting different results each time....works the other way...why would this magically start to work when it never ever has before, in the history of mankind? did we all evolve, and i missed the memo? did our global society take a big step forward that i was napping for? why do you expect something that has never once worked before to start working now?
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Because things that are impossible are impossible. The thing that the Hyena's are trying to do is to only consider the end result they'd like. Yet, they aren't considering the means they use, forced servitude, which by it's inclusion, is what makes the thing they hope to achieve, "equal rights", an impossibility.

You're welcome. Maybe I won't turn you into a monkey after all. I kind of like you. A little bit.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Rob Roy said:
So, what you're really saying is, my exposing the contradiction in your beliefs has made you feel uncomfortable and you're too obstinate to accept that you have no argument to refute my assertion. Therefore you cry. Like a baby.

The age of consent varies from person to person, but generally speaking the younger a person is, the less likely they have developed the wherewithal to understand the implications of their choices.
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Hell no, not at all.

What I was really asking was very clear.

Were you born an asshole or did you spend years learning it?

And what was the age of consent again?

Which one don't you understand?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Hell no, not at all.

What I was really asking was very clear.

Were you born an asshole or did you spend years learning it?

And what was the age of consent again?

Which one don't you understand?
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No, I was born a baby. I haven't learned to be an asshole, are you saying you're willing to voluntarily teach me how? I'm afraid I'll have to politely say, "no thanks". I'd prefer not to associate with you, in person anyway.

When you say age of consent, are you talking about an actual chronological age or are you talking about the varying legal mythologies that vary from plantation to plantation ?
 
tangerinegreen555

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Rob Roy said:
No, I was born a baby. I haven't learned to be an asshole, are you saying you're willing to voluntarily teach me how? I'm afraid I'll have to politely say, "no thanks". I'd prefer not to associate with you, in person anyway.

When you say age of consent, are you talking about an actual chronological age or are you talking about the varying legal mythologies that vary from plantation to plantation ?
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The first question was obviously over your head.

As far as the second, you've always answered it like an asshole or a pedophile and you've just denied being an asshole.

So there's that.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Unclebaldrick said:
If more Europeans would have refused service to Jews in the '30s, they would have all self deported. This would have prevented the Holocaust.

Rob Roy is just trying to protect African Americans the same way Goebbels was trying to protect the Jews.
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What might have prevented the holocaust is if people didn't obediently and blindly follow laws which dispossessed Jews from their property and right to self determine.
That obedience was likely intensified by the idea that obedience to perceived "authority" is often mistakenly seen as a virtue and reinforced in government schools. (it's the main feature of them) Particularly in German schools, which use a Prussian based school of indoctrination. Basically it took a government to create an atrocity on the scale of the holocaust.

It's ironic that you might think by forcing people to serve somebody that you are protecting "equal rights", since the element of force being used against a neutral behaving person negates any equality. Would you care to refute that ?

As far as protecting people, the best way to protect an equal right is not to force other people into an involuntary relationship. I still haven't seen a good argument from anybody explaining who has that right. Would you like to offer your argument detailing who has that right ?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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If only we could all relinquish our attachments and projections, the collective mind constructs that have failed to serve humanity such as Capitalism and Consumerism would cease to exist and we’d be able to experience reality together. We could just be. We wouldn’t feed these constant vibrations of illusion that take over reality and run wild.

As the economy becomes artificially inflated, the foundation rises so far that it figuratively but literally strangles the poor to death from starvation, disease, etc. The Middle Class shrinks, Poverty grows, the Wealthy get wealthier. All over a human idea that won’t exist when our consumerist lifestyles consume us. Exercising desire brings dissatisfaction and more desire. You become entangled. You become uncomfortable being alone in silence with yourself, and it’s designed that way. As soon as we put an end to the extra desires which don’t serve us, the artificial, hyperinflated suffering ceases. Then, only natural suffering will be left, like putting it all on acid.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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tangerinegreen555 said:
The first question was obviously over your head.

As far as the second, you've always answered it like an asshole or a pedophile and you've just denied being an asshole.

So there's that.
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So, what you're saying is your inability to make a cogent argument which disproves my argument, causes you some distress and rather than admitting that you have nothing to offer, you will substitute by calling me an asshole so you can feel better about your own inadequacies?

You don't suppose that's why you think it's okay to force an unwilling black guy to serve you, do you? I'm not an asshole, but I sometimes do self identify as a know it all. For instance I KNOW that I have no right to force a neutral person to serve me. Do you know that too or would you be an asshole and insist, forcibly that another person meet your demands or be harmed?
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Rob Roy said:
So, what you're saying is your inability to make a cogent argument which disproves my argument, causes you some distress and rather than admitting that you have nothing to offer, you will substitute by calling me an asshole so you can feel better about your own inadequacies?

You don't suppose that's why you think it's okay to force an unwilling black guy to serve you, do you? I'm not an asshole, but I sometimes do self identify as a know it all. For instance I KNOW that I have no right to force a neutral person to serve me. Do you know that too or would you be an asshole and insist, forcibly that another person meet your demands or be harmed?
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Hell no, not at all.

What I said was that the first question was obviously over your head.

And you've always answered the second like an asshole or a pedophile and you've now repeatedy denied being an asshole.

How hard is this for you to understand?

Let's try this. You have 7 daughters because you don't understand birth control.

Their ages are 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17. Is it OK if your neighbor fucks any of them? As you know, the 13 year old is very mature, the 17 year old acts like a 12 year old and the others quietly think you're an asshole.

Which ones would you have no problem with your neighbor taking advantage of?
 
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