is this the middle ages?

Rob Roy

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No authority to enforce rules?

Lol

Robert hasn’t told you about snickers bar contracts yet

You still haven't said where you would get the authority to force another unwilling person to serve you.

Does your idea require a gun to implement ? I thought you were opposed to using guns against neutral people ?
 

UncleBuck

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You still haven't said where you would get the authority to force another unwilling person to serve you.

Does your idea require a gun to implement ? I thought you were opposed to using guns against neutral people ?
You want a world where black people cant shop in the same stores as whites

How is that equal rights
 

Rob Roy

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You want a world where black people cant shop in the same stores as whites

How is that equal rights

Equality to be equality must not deny the peaceful or neutral person the right of self determination. That is self evident and can be demonstrated mathematically. Wanna see?

Along with that comes responsibility and consequences for our actions or inactions.

I wish you'd stop advocating for slavery and offering intrusive policies which feature the use of guns against neutral people. It makes me think, you might believe in two opposing things at once and have based your ideology on some kind of religious cultish beliefs rather than on rational thought, Poopy Pants.
 

UncleBuck

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Equality to be equality must not deny the peaceful or neutral person the right of self determination. That is self evident and can be demonstrated mathematically. Wanna see?

Along with that comes responsibility and consequences for our actions or inactions.

I wish you'd stop advocating for slavery and offering intrusive policies which feature the use of guns against neutral people. It makes me think, you might believe in two opposing things at once and have based your ideology on some kind of religious cultish beliefs rather than on rational thought, Poopy Pants.
In your dream world, black people cannot shop at the same stores as whites

How is that equality rather than blatant racism?
 

Rob Roy

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In your dream world, black people cannot shop at the same stores as whites

How is that equality rather than blatant racism?
Well thank you for asking, Poopy Pants.

You seem confused and in need of some assistance with meanings and relevance of some words. Your confusion is likely caused by your high level of indoctrination and your dull mind. Allow me to help you out...

When you talk about "equality" and rights in the same scenario, you think equality is an outcome that can be legislated. Except it's not. It's a circumstance where no person has greater rights than another (that's where the equal part comes in) and how they exercise their equal right is up to each individual, as long as they don't negate another persons rights.

Now that we've cleared up your silly idea of what "equality" is, let's move onto the rest of the mess you excreted.

Refusing to associate with a person may be motivated by racism. How does that give any other person any right to force a racist to use his body and property to serve them? Forced servitude is slavery. Your argument is asinine, since you claim to be arguing for "equal rights" , but the evidence says you are arguing for forced servitude / slavery.

It's so easy to win. Well, for me it is.
 

UncleBuck

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Well thank you for asking, Poopy Pants.

You seem confused and in need of some assistance with meanings and relevance of some words. Your confusion is likely caused by your high level of indoctrination and your dull mind. Allow me to help you out...

When you talk about "equality" and rights in the same scenario, you think equality is an outcome that can be legislated. Except it's not. It's a circumstance where no person has greater rights than another (that's where the equal part comes in) and how they exercise their equal right is up to each individual, as long as they don't negate another persons rights.

Now that we've cleared up your silly idea of what "equality" is, let's move onto the rest of the mess you excreted.

Refusing to associate with a person may be motivated by racism. How does that give any other person any right to force a racist to use his body and property to serve them? Forced servitude is slavery. Your argument is asinine, since you claim to be arguing for "equal rights" , but the evidence says you are arguing for forced servitude / slavery.

It's so easy to win. Well, for me it is.
So if black people are able to shop at the same stores as whites it makes you a slave?
 

Rob Roy

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So if black people are able to shop at the same stores as whites it makes you a slave?
I'm not sure how your question is relevant. Nor does it refute anything I said. You're out of gas. You rail on about "equal rights" yet don't know what a right is, then you advocate for forced servitude as a cure to another persons racist thoughts. Oh dear.

 

abandonconflict

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Equality to be equality must not deny the peaceful or neutral person the right of self determination. That is self evident and can be demonstrated mathematically. Wanna see?
Even if this were true and we could accept your new definition of equality, in what way is a person neutral or peaceful if they refuse to sell commodities based on race?

Explain plainly for once. I'm not asking you about children consenting, we already know you can't answer that shit plainly.

You rail on about "equal rights" yet don't know what a right is...
Ironic coming from a guy who thinks that all human rights stem from property rights due to your assumption that people too are property.
 

UncleBuck

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I'm not sure how your question is relevant. Nor does it refute anything I said. You're out of gas. You rail on about "equal rights" yet don't know what a right is, then you advocate for forced servitude as a cure to another persons racist thoughts. Oh dear.

so it’s slavery if black people have equal rights and can shop in the same store as whites

That’s kinda racist don’t ya think
 

Rob Roy

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Even if this were true and we could accept your new definition of equality, in what way is a person neutral or peaceful if they refuse to sell commodities based on race?

Explain plainly for once. I'm not asking you about children consenting, we already know you can't answer that shit plainly.


Ironic coming from a guy who thinks that all human rights stem from property rights due to your assumption that people too are property.
Why hello there. Sure I can answer your question, but first I should mention...
I don't think all human rights spring from property rights, but many do. Nor do I think people are property, I do think people have a right, akin to a property right, in themselves. Meaning people should be able to self determine.


A person is neutral if they refuse to interact with another person, since it is within everybody's right to self determine to decide who they will or won't interact with.

A person is not neutral if they forcibly insist another person interact with them despite an objection from the intended victim.

A neutral person who keeps to them self is not "breaking the peace", but a person who insists another person interact with them or be harmed, is breaking the peace.

I hope that answers your question.


That's all you get for now.
 

UncleBuck

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Why hello there. Sure I can answer your question, but first I should mention...
I don't think all human rights spring from property rights, but many do. Nor do I think people are property, I do think people have a right, akin to a property right, in themselves. Meaning people should be able to self determine.


A person is neutral if they refuse to interact with another person, since it is within everybody's right to self determine to decide who they will or won't interact with.

A person is not neutral if they forcibly insist another person interact with them despite an objection from the intended victim.

A neutral person who keeps to them self is not "breaking the peace", but a person who insists another person interact with them or be harmed, is breaking the peace.

I hope that answers your question.


That's all you get for now.
So how does not letting black people shop in the same stores as whites give us equality
 

Rob Roy

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so it’s slavery if black people have equal rights and can shop in the same store as whites

That’s kinda racist don’t ya think

It's slavery to force an unwilling person to serve somebody. You advocate that. I don't.

Hard for you to admit, I understand, but it's pretty cool how I turned your own argument "against slavery" and beat you over the head with it, huh?

 

UncleBuck

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It's slavery to force an unwilling person to serve somebody. You advocate that. I don't.

Hard for you to admit, I understand, but it's pretty cool how I turned your own argument "against slavery" and beat you over the head with it, huh?

Isn’t your argument to that black people shouldn’t be allowed to sho in the same stores as whites
 

abandonconflict

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It's slavery to force an unwilling person to serve somebody.
Even if this were an accurate description of the laws against racial discrimination in public businesses, it doesn't describe accurately the right that people have to enter a public business and be treated as any other customer.

However, since you're not going to ever renounce your support for racial discrimination, let's at least agree that you do in fact consider racial discrimination to be a peaceful and neutral act.
 

abandonconflict

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of course, if this is considered acceptable behavior by mexicans....maybe they should just stay in mexico.....
Hey screw you and everyone who liked this fucking tripe. Don't act like mob mentality doesn't lead to wrongful deaths in the US. Should all Americans be painted with the same brush that colors the Alt-Right when some fucking redneck runs a girl down in Charlottesville? A criminal incited a riot and the proper authorities will deal with him. This crowd wasn't driven by racism or any other bigotry such as what happens regularly in your uncivilized country. They believed the men to be child murdering monsters.
 

Rob Roy

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Even if this were an accurate description of the laws against racial discrimination in public businesses, it doesn't describe accurately the right that people have to enter a public business and be treated as any other customer.

However, since you're not going to ever renounce your support for racial discrimination, let's at least agree that you do in fact consider racial discrimination to be a peaceful and neutral act.

When you say "public business" you imply publicly owned, but of course that's not the case, it's privately owned. Nice try, but flaccid.


Who has a right to threaten force against another person if they don't wish to associate with them? I don't have that right. Do you? Where did it come from? I'd like to hear your argument there.

When you say I support racial discrimination, your lame argument relies on innuendo, that's why it's lame. My recognition that you have no right to force somebody to serve you, doesn't make me a racist, if it does what is the basis of how you think there is a relationship?
 
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