AlphaPhase
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The translucent roots are what worry me, when they look like that, usually it means the root is injured
Is this root rot
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gand3r
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I destroyed her.
I tried again and put the airpump outside the room and changed the airstones to an airdifuser and all seems good.
Do u think any of the above could have solved the issue. The airstones were making the water extremely turbulent, the room is also small so not much fresh air.
I tried again and put the airpump outside the room and changed the airstones to an airdifuser and all seems good.
Do u think any of the above could have solved the issue. The airstones were making the water extremely turbulent, the room is also small so not much fresh air.
AlphaPhase
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Everything can play a part imo, each little thing that can be Controlled is just a part of the final picture. To my knowledge, diseases that attack plants can be anywhere, in our water to in the air. I believe pythium (root rot) has spores, which can be anywhere. Powdery mildew is a fungus and so is root rot. There are about 500 different kinds of pythium from what I've read. Maintenance and preventative measures are the key to success. You could very well be blowing in root rot through the air pump, but don't let that deter you from using an air pump, I've been using one for just a little while now and it's much better than not using an air pump. But always give time for your bennies to start working, I try but can't always, but if you have time, prep your res water before planting, give it the bennies and run it at least a few days if you can, bubble out the chlorine first if using tap, then add the bennies, let them brew for a few days, then plant. I can't really guarantee this is an end all problems, but any step is a step that helps
AlphaPhase
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I'm baked, so if that doesn't make sense I'm sorry 
gand3r
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Anyone think this is rot.
Been using rootexcel. She is still in veg, also some.pondzyme.
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Been using rootexcel. She is still in veg, also some.pondzyme.
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AlphaPhase
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Yeah, looks like it, roots excel I heard can cause it fast, not sure why or how, but there's been a lot of people saying it.Anyone think this is rot.
Been using rootexcel. She is still in veg, also some.pondzyme.
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gand3r
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im making an EWC tea.
im going to drain the res in 48hrs, refill with a small amount of nutrients and add the Tea to the res and around the root crown of the plants.
i just dont get why, all temps and everything else is spot on. ive been using pondzyme, hydroguard and a small amount of roots excel.
AlphaPhase
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Root rot is a bitch bro, it can happen, even in colder water, some strains of root rot are more of a pain in the ass, I think there's 150 or more types. Ridomil bro. Kill it fast with that, sterilize everything and it will be gone, promise. Then use the hydroguard and pondzyme. Ditch roots excel in hydro, it's good for drip systems, but seems to cause root rot in hydro for some reason
gand3r
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thanks for the advice man. ive added physan20 and ill run for 6hrs then flush and fill with RO water. do u think i should add the ewc tea or just go with the hydroguard and pondzyme. also do u think she will survive.?
SheepsBlood
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Doesn't look like rot to me. Smell those roots. If it stinks like crap then yeah it's rotting. Everyone here has had good things to say and are correct. You are ok bro. 65F you shouldn't see any issues. If you want preventative then use Botanicare Hydroguard.
AlphaPhase
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No problem man, and she can survive, might take a while though. I never used the tea before but I hear that's the best route to go. You could add hydroguard with the tea, pondzyme is probably OK too and should work with the tea. New roots should show in a week give or take I'd reckon
SheepsBlood
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It does not look like rot. They could be stained from solutions. They could be brown from detritus. They could be brown because you are exposing them to light to keep looking at them.
If they were rotten you would know it. First use your nose. Then use your fingers. If its pudding its rotten. If its stringy its a brown root leave it alone and in the dark. Seal your res from light.
Listen to WESTDENVER PIONEER.
I agree with him totally.
Many times when your in the right temps and using a root protection method already then you get stained roots.
Smell and touch will determine it easily.
It smells bad when they are rotting.
Don't use bleach if you are using some type of beneficial root guard like HYDROGUARD. Just defeats the purpose.
I get stains on my roots every run. I use GH FloraNova and put in additives that have seaweed extract and humic acids which defiantly stain.
Put it this way, if it stains clothing it will stain roots.
SheepsBlood
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I am just really learning the benefits of seaweed and humic acid. From what I understand they are best used as a foliar not root fed as many of the products suggest to do.
So using it as a foliar vs as an additive in your water will benefit the plant better and keep your roots cleaner looking.
So using it as a foliar vs as an additive in your water will benefit the plant better and keep your roots cleaner looking.
AlphaPhase
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It doesn't always have to smell, usually it doesn't smell for me, the easiest way to test is to touch them. They should be crisp, thick, not mushy, not break or pull off easily and not be translucent. If any of these symptoms occur it's a root disease.
AlphaPhase
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They should also not be slimy. Crisp and firm to the touch = you're fine. To me, it does look like the beginning of a root infection, but only you'll be able to tell by touching them. Also, the slimy brown mushy and smelly roots is pythium I Believe, it could be brown algae infection, which usually doesn't have slime or smell in my experience, all of the root rot I've had was odorless and looked like that in the beginning, the roots at the bottom will pull off easily
AlphaPhase
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Here's some pics I've taken of all different hydro systems and what the roots should look like, no matter nutes regimen. I've not experienced staining, I do use fulvics and some organic stuff here and there. The roots ages are between 14 days and 120 days old, as they get older they may turn yellowish and firmer. I'd you do use something that stains roots, consider if this happens to all your plants or just some, if it's not all the plants and just a couple, root disease, if all, possibly staining (if this never happened before, root rot). Aeroponic, Dwc, ebb and flow. Hope this helps.
SheepsBlood
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So no staining no matter what nute regime? Well with GH FloraNova you can ask anyone... Definitely stains the roots and so does liquid karma. This isn't an argument but a question to a blanket statement.
By the way, those are some very beautiful roots
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