Is this botrytis (budrot) ??

ZuuTeD614

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You are spraying your plants under 300 watt of LEDs with the lights in. Your burning thr foliage it looks to me.
Whomever told you coco/autopot/organic is good for first time, punch them and quit listening to them.
So I have a qeustion I switched to the fox farm.trio bottle nutes, I use my tap water it's like 8.2 PH by the time I add nutes to water brings it down to 5.6ish I add a few drops of PH UP to bring it 6.5. Now with using tap water do I use CalMag still or does it have enough in my water?
 

myke

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So I have a qeustion I switched to the fox farm.trio bottle nutes, I use my tap water it's like 8.2 PH by the time I add nutes to water brings it down to 5.6ish I add a few drops of PH UP to bring it 6.5. Now with using tap water do I use CalMag still or does it have enough in my water?
Depends whats in tap water,if calcium carbonate ill bet your ph rises back up again over time.As far as calmag goes ea plant is different listen to her.Yellow of spots etc...

Do a test ,mix up nutes let sit 24 hrs, check pH again.
 

Neoliet

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So I have a qeustion I switched to the fox farm.trio bottle nutes, I use my tap water it's like 8.2 PH by the time I add nutes to water brings it down to 5.6ish I add a few drops of PH UP to bring it 6.5. Now with using tap water do I use CalMag still or does it have enough in my water?
I’m sorry, I can’t really advise you.. I’m just starting myselve.. Said that, plant needs are always different, you need to talk to your plants to know what that they need.
 

ZuuTeD614

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Depends whats in tap water,if calcium carbonate ill bet your ph rises back up again over time.As far as calmag goes ea plant is different listen to her.Yellow of spots etc...

Do a test ,mix up nutes let sit 24 hrs, check pH again.
Ok I will do that right now
 

xtsho

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The amount of chlorine in tap water will not kill all the beneficials if growing organic. Any that are killed will be replaced rapidly. There are numerous studies proving that but I'm not going to look them up.

I've made JMS using tap water that contains both chlorine and chloramine and it hasn't stopped the microbes from multiplying. You can fiddle around with your tap water or you can just use it and not notice any difference. If you can culture your own microbes using tap water that contains chlorine and chloramine it's not going to kill all the beneficial microbes in your soil. If it did then the yeast I use to make bread would die as soon as dissolved in tap water and the sourdough starters I keep would be dead as well.

Also if you're using tap water you might not need calmag and adding it could actually cause problems if you have too much calcium which can lock out several other essential nutrients if there is too much.
 

ZuuTeD614

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The amount of chlorine in tap water will not kill all the beneficials if growing organic. Any that are killed will be replaced rapidly. There are numerous studies proving that but I'm not going to look them up.

I've made JMS using tap water that contains both chlorine and chloramine and it hasn't stopped the microbes from multiplying. You can fiddle around with your tap water or you can just use it and not notice any difference. If you can culture your own microbes using tap water that contains chlorine and chloramine it's not going to kill all the beneficial microbes in your soil. If it did then the yeast I use to make bread would die as soon as dissolved in tap water and the sourdough starters I keep would be dead as well.

Also if you're using tap water you might not need calmag and adding it could actually cause problems if you have too much calcium which can lock out several other essential nutrients if there is too much.
Awesome info man, my tap I just tested was 7.86, I add 5ML of Grow Big which is mostly N I did 5 ML of Big bloom which is PK and I don't use Budz and bloom until flower. I bought a 4th bottle it's called Boomerrang helps keeps the salt build up to a minimum I use 3ML of that. Brought my water to 6.8 I added it 2ML of PH down and got it at 6.5ish. I will let sit for 24 hours if the PH rises after 24 hours I won't need to use CalMag?
 

ZuuTeD614

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I am on day 24 Crystal meth on the right and day 20 for the girl on the left it'd a Lemon Skunk both are autos. Just doing LST and in a mix of 50/50 happy from FfOF. I tried transplanting autos and think the one on the left took some shock from it. 20211219_132006.jpg20211206_144135.jpg20211205_110647.jpg
 

ZuuTeD614

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I’m sorry, I can’t really advise you.. I’m just starting myselve.. Said that, plant needs are always different, you need to talk to your plants to know what that they need.
It's cool man I listed some of my grow information as well just now. Alot good guys on here I'm on my 3rd grow first was a good ine tried a photo period thrn switched to Autos and kinda f'd them up, now this is 3rd time the charm!!!
 

Neoliet

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Neoliet

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Along with the small size and slow growth.
I’m hoping that is in the past now!
But I want to ad some silicon end of next week:

Silicium Flash
NPK 4-3-3
100% organic plant feed containing a quick acting dose of; SILICON, NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS and POTASSIUM that is rapidly absorbed by your plants.
 

ZuuTeD614

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A lot of Crystal an Crack lovers here .. your ladies looks very nice! I will post some new photo’s in 2 a 3 days…
Thanks man. Easiest thing to mess up is overwatering though. I switched to 5 gal fabric pots and it's been way better than 7 gal grow bags.
 

Livingblacksoil

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It’s already 4 days since I was with my plants and they are getting only PH water.
How do you know what it gets when you are not there?
Spending 4 days away from plants on your first grow and wanting it to be organic seem contradictory.
Organic Coco grows seem to work best on YouTube. Spending time with your plants is how you receive the information they put out. You may prefer talking to listening, no worries just get some bottles and tell the plant what you want it to do.
Good luck.
 

Neoliet

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I would say dont put the plant back in the auto pot after top feed.Needs air
Would suggest if organic is the plan then do that next time with peat based mix and a large pot like 40l plus.

This round you'll have to get some stronger food,hydrolized fish maybe like 2-3-1

Chlorine water is fine,I do organic and have no problems with it.My tap water is mostly Ca /Mg at about 190 ppm @7.2pH
I have 3 Organic fertiliser:

Orgatrex
NPK 5–1–5 with balanced quantities of; Zn, Cu, Ca, Mn, Mg, S, Si and Fe.

Bio PK 5-8
NPK 2-5-8
seaweed,vitamins, auxins and other phytohormones

SILICIUM FLASH
NPK 4-3-3
SILICON, NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS and POTASSIUM
 

Neoliet

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How do you know what it gets when you are not there?
Spending 4 days away from plants on your first grow and wanting it to be organic seem contradictory.
Organic Coco grows seem to work best on YouTube. Spending time with your plants is how you receive the information they put out. You may prefer talking to listening, no worries just get some bottles and tell the plant what you want it to do.
Good luck.
I bottom feed PH water automatically, soon I only will use RO water..

I mixed my coco and perlite with beneficial soil bacteria and fungi. Added Slow release organic fertiliser tablets NPK: 15–7–8. Then you need only once a week top feed with a light organic fertilizer..

I know NOW, that I had to add in my coco mix : SILICIUM FLASH .. then in veg stage you only bottom feed with tab water, (without chloride) or RO water..

Can you please send me that link about that YouTuber who is growing organic in Coco? I want to see that.

I have a camera in my tent to watch the girls , and if they need me I can leave my work and go home..

See?
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