Where in the hell am I?
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Absofreakinlutely! It does not APPEAR that ya had yer 2nd burst, but ya CAN miss it
Is It Time Yet?
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fadetoblack72
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Should I just let the plant continue to eat itself? Will it run out of nutrients before this second explosion takes place(if it hasn't already happened)? Is there a way to tell if it has happened? How long after the second explosion until harvest?
Anyone know how many days it takes for sour diesel to harvest?
Where in the hell am I?
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Brah, if yer trich look like ya say, 80%amber keeps me comatose
fadetoblack72
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Where the hell... Thanks for the info. Just for the record when they say day count are they talking about from clone to harvest or from flowering to harvest?
Where in the hell am I?
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Flower to harvest. From clone shud only be an extra 2 weeks, n-e way
fadetoblack72
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Thanks...I was just wondering because 48 days or so seemed like a short time from flower to harvest. They sure do look close to me though. I guess the trics will tell.
panhead
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There are no set finish times for any strain,if one grower finished in 72 days there are way too many variables in other growers rooms to use his day count,too many things change from grow room to grow room to use anybody elses finish time,even with the same strain.
When they talk day count they are talking from when pistils first start to form on the plants,the day count should be started roughly 2 weeks from the 1st day the plants went to 12/12,not allways but roughly.
Its highly doubtfull you missed the growth burst,before the growth burst the pistils will start to brown out & there will be very little new white pistil growth,if you have not had any red/brown pistils followed by a heavy burst of new white pistils covering them over then you have not gone through the 2nd growth burst yet,i can see from the pics the buds have not gone that far yet.
Again,some strains do not get red/brown pistils until after they are ready to harvest but the strain your growing is not one of them,i'd bet you have a full 30 days to go before harvest.
As for letting the plant eat itself no you should not allow that to continue,put everything you've read about flushing the plants right in the toilet & flush it,keep feeding the plants,i like to give mine a few shots of nitrogen rich fertilizer durring heavy bud,i also foliar feed them one time about half way through bud cycle with a light mixture of fertilizer water in a spray bottle,this allows the sun leaves to live much longer & continue the process of turning light energy into plant/bud building energy,you can spray the entire plant down wih your veg nutes as long as the mix is about 10%,then make sure you have a fan blowing directly on the buds after any visable moisture is gone,this protects against any inner excess moisture within the buds & the possibility of bud rott.
You can experiment with advanced & unproven techniques like flushing on future grows,on your 1st grow just keep the plants as healthy as possible by feeding them properly all the way through the grow right up until the last watering you give them,the nonsense commonly spewed about tasting fertilizer is exactly that,nonsense,whats tasted is "clorophyll" from buds that are not properly dried,fertilizer is made up of elements,these things do not leave the plant,once elements like boron/iron/copper/magneese ect are in the plant no amount of flushing will remove them,keep feeding the plant & your plant will be much healthier.
On your first few grows its best to forget most of what you read on these sites,lots of unproven myths like flushing & ultra expensive fertilizers are touted as fact,the best thing you can do is to keep everything as simple as possible,watch the plant,if its showing clear signs that it needs fertilizer then feed it,if the buds are not ready to harvest by trichomes after the second growth burst then wait,day count will only play a role after you are used to the strain from several grows,same thing with fertilizing,on later grows you can custon tailor the feeding from experience but the first few grows its best to keep the plant as healthy as possible through the entire grow by feeding it.
smoke and coke
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some very good points panhead. you may also want to keep a journal for future grows so if something works you can do it again. each strain will react different to different things.
sUpA nOvA D9
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Very very nice Panhead! I'd give you more rep, but it won't let me yet lol I've never waited till that second spurt, cause I tried to harvest before amber's set in heavy to keep it headie. I think for my next grow Ill let a few plants hit the 2nd spurt, and compare to see the differences in my new room with my strains. I'll be doing a DWC perpetual grow, so time is key, but if its going to yeild wayyy more to wait an extra month I might have to 
PANHEAD=AWESOME ADVICE
I am not new at this but I also have not seen a 2nd spurt of growth, I have never let mine go past 9 weeks. Can I ask I have some bubblicious right now that are at 9 weeks all hairs are brown and the trichs are 50/50 amber cloudy, but the buds are not as large as I have seen, when do you normally see the 2nd growth? Is it hard to miss? I think I am going to wait and see if this happens and run it another few weeks.
Also if you foliar feed durring flower 1 Tbs of Kelp per Gallon of water will not ever burn your plants and they will stay green through out the grow, I mist mine everyday in the morning and I have never had mold or any bad effects.
I am not new at this but I also have not seen a 2nd spurt of growth, I have never let mine go past 9 weeks. Can I ask I have some bubblicious right now that are at 9 weeks all hairs are brown and the trichs are 50/50 amber cloudy, but the buds are not as large as I have seen, when do you normally see the 2nd growth? Is it hard to miss? I think I am going to wait and see if this happens and run it another few weeks.
Also if you foliar feed durring flower 1 Tbs of Kelp per Gallon of water will not ever burn your plants and they will stay green through out the grow, I mist mine everyday in the morning and I have never had mold or any bad effects.
snowmanexpress
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Wow Panhead.
Just your 2 posts alone, now I know why some people dont come out always to post. You have changed the way I think about growing althogether in your simple 2 posts that you problably thought of at the back of your hand, and you have to stand to ridicule and say-so. Where Im struggling in here and I really respect that. Thank you so much.
If what you are telling me here, it completely contradicts what Ive accumilated in the short time of my stay here, such as day count as you say. I WAS thinking that 60 day thing, and then the plants almost done, this is not so I see. Using CFL's, also my grow room is different and very cheap and not extravagant.
Other things to contradict, is ferts taste. Well stick a fork it in im done with that, but realistically, I sway on the side that I should still feed straight water at the end? But I dunno when the end is haha so shoot me in the face eh. So true So true. Get a couple under me on the same strain and Ill learn correct times, with my style of water and light and fert.
Lets see, second spurt, hmmm I havent seen a second spurt yet, but I see very green TOPs that are new so far on the top area of the bud. ANd not only tops, but I see new, GREENER looking calyx's that APPEAR to be new, just not an EXLOZIONNN!!!11! haha. I Hope.
The very middle-top of the plant, particularlarly the buds on the stem, are darker than the rest.
Im using 15-30-15 miracle grow @ less than 1 teaspoon to about 3/4 gal. every other 3 or 4 days in my conditions. I dont have a big res for water that I made or would consider good in my eyes so I havent tried flushing, but what I understand is that you need at least 4 times the amount of water of your pot. I'm not even gonna consider trying that flush technique. I dont even know what it is. Im just acting like I do. seems like its wayyy to much for me at my level, and im scared to tottally change the levels of the pH Ive got, in the soil and roots with all that fresh water.
I think this is an Autoflowering strain. I grew it from bagseed as I swear I'd seen sort of pistal hairs at 3-4 weeks and before I switched to 12/12. I thought autos finish sooner than others and even with that in mind wouldnt think I would go past 65 days even with weak cfls. But Im probly wrong too about that.
I bet cfl's add at least a week or more or less to grow depending on your bulbs and bulb count and other things such as strain itself in that scenario too and countless other conditions.
2 weeks from the first day of flower would put me at around March 9th, I bet in between this and the 60 day @ feb 23rd thats where ill start to see something nice. But if your saying another month, it could go to march 23rd.
Maybe 6 weak cfls such as I have is a 90 day grow instead of 60 and Im around 45 days at halfway or more.
4 questions, no sorry 5 questions now....please, this is all I swear I wont ask any more questions I promise.......
1. Where on the plant should I check for those BUD trics first? outside, middle, top. Or should I say, where does it amber up first usually?
2. Where on the bud, should I check for those trics? All over? Anywhere on the bud?
3. Should I put my plant in the sun?
4. Does the Trics get sticky, and not watery?
5. Okay I remember now.... what light is best to view trics under? SHould I do it at lights out, with the lil led on the Microscope? Hitting it with a flashlight at night for a short burst isnt THAT bad right?
Ill get it. I wont give up until I do.
Pics soon.
When i touch the trics (I dont but when I do), will there be another consistency of readiness, such as, the trics USED to be wet, kinda soggy, will it get STICKY and not watery, is that an indicator of ripeness?
I shouldnt be looking at it under 3200k lights either huh? I should probably move it to a better room with daylight eh to get a better look, it seems the flower spectrum is making trics look darker?
Last question, problably the stupidest question youll EVER hear, Im sorry I have to ask.....
Should I put my plant in front of my window that has a great view of the sun at peak times or should I just leave it under CFL's I say that just because the sun has 400 gaudwrillion watts and i only have like 170 watts on it haha. Sorry, I have to ask. I might as well just leave it in the window! My girl wont care, neither will my neighbors, they love me.
I bought a radioshack 13 dollar 60-100x. I can barely use it right, my hands are shaking, its windy in there, I keep fuckin touching the trics. hahahaha. AAAARRGGGH.
EDIT: Okay, I got it now, I adjusted the fuckus so I don't have to be right ON TOP of the bud. I forgot how to work a camera for a sec......Now I can view freely. Oh man this is great.
Just your 2 posts alone, now I know why some people dont come out always to post. You have changed the way I think about growing althogether in your simple 2 posts that you problably thought of at the back of your hand, and you have to stand to ridicule and say-so. Where Im struggling in here and I really respect that. Thank you so much.
If what you are telling me here, it completely contradicts what Ive accumilated in the short time of my stay here, such as day count as you say. I WAS thinking that 60 day thing, and then the plants almost done, this is not so I see. Using CFL's, also my grow room is different and very cheap and not extravagant.
Other things to contradict, is ferts taste. Well stick a fork it in im done with that, but realistically, I sway on the side that I should still feed straight water at the end? But I dunno when the end is haha so shoot me in the face eh. So true So true. Get a couple under me on the same strain and Ill learn correct times, with my style of water and light and fert.
Lets see, second spurt, hmmm I havent seen a second spurt yet, but I see very green TOPs that are new so far on the top area of the bud. ANd not only tops, but I see new, GREENER looking calyx's that APPEAR to be new, just not an EXLOZIONNN!!!11! haha. I Hope.
The very middle-top of the plant, particularlarly the buds on the stem, are darker than the rest.
Im using 15-30-15 miracle grow @ less than 1 teaspoon to about 3/4 gal. every other 3 or 4 days in my conditions. I dont have a big res for water that I made or would consider good in my eyes so I havent tried flushing, but what I understand is that you need at least 4 times the amount of water of your pot. I'm not even gonna consider trying that flush technique. I dont even know what it is. Im just acting like I do. seems like its wayyy to much for me at my level, and im scared to tottally change the levels of the pH Ive got, in the soil and roots with all that fresh water.
I think this is an Autoflowering strain. I grew it from bagseed as I swear I'd seen sort of pistal hairs at 3-4 weeks and before I switched to 12/12. I thought autos finish sooner than others and even with that in mind wouldnt think I would go past 65 days even with weak cfls. But Im probly wrong too about that.
I bet cfl's add at least a week or more or less to grow depending on your bulbs and bulb count and other things such as strain itself in that scenario too and countless other conditions.
2 weeks from the first day of flower would put me at around March 9th, I bet in between this and the 60 day @ feb 23rd thats where ill start to see something nice. But if your saying another month, it could go to march 23rd.
Maybe 6 weak cfls such as I have is a 90 day grow instead of 60 and Im around 45 days at halfway or more.
4 questions, no sorry 5 questions now....please, this is all I swear I wont ask any more questions I promise.......
1. Where on the plant should I check for those BUD trics first? outside, middle, top. Or should I say, where does it amber up first usually?
2. Where on the bud, should I check for those trics? All over? Anywhere on the bud?
3. Should I put my plant in the sun?
4. Does the Trics get sticky, and not watery?
5. Okay I remember now.... what light is best to view trics under? SHould I do it at lights out, with the lil led on the Microscope? Hitting it with a flashlight at night for a short burst isnt THAT bad right?
Ill get it. I wont give up until I do.
Pics soon.
When i touch the trics (I dont but when I do), will there be another consistency of readiness, such as, the trics USED to be wet, kinda soggy, will it get STICKY and not watery, is that an indicator of ripeness?
I shouldnt be looking at it under 3200k lights either huh? I should probably move it to a better room with daylight eh to get a better look, it seems the flower spectrum is making trics look darker?
Last question, problably the stupidest question youll EVER hear, Im sorry I have to ask.....
Should I put my plant in front of my window that has a great view of the sun at peak times or should I just leave it under CFL's I say that just because the sun has 400 gaudwrillion watts and i only have like 170 watts on it haha. Sorry, I have to ask. I might as well just leave it in the window! My girl wont care, neither will my neighbors, they love me.
I bought a radioshack 13 dollar 60-100x. I can barely use it right, my hands are shaking, its windy in there, I keep fuckin touching the trics. hahahaha. AAAARRGGGH.
EDIT: Okay, I got it now, I adjusted the fuckus so I don't have to be right ON TOP of the bud. I forgot how to work a camera for a sec......Now I can view freely. Oh man this is great.
Yota
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4 questions, no sorry 5 questions now....please, this is all I swear I wont ask any more questions I promise.......
1. Where on the plant should I check for those BUD trics first? outside, middle, top. Or should I say, where does it amber up first usually?
tops are going to be the most ripe, or at least buds branches that are sticking up near tops.
2. Where on the bud, should I check for those trics? All over? Anywhere on the bud?
Anywhere there are a lot of trichs
3. Should I put my plant in the sun?
why do that?
4. Does the Trics get sticky, and not watery?
the trichs are sticky
5. Okay I remember now.... what light is best to view trics under? SHould I do it at lights out, with the lil led on the Microscope? Hitting it with a flashlight at night for a short burst isnt THAT bad right?
dont hit it with flashlights at night. The room light should be good enough to see whats going on, but the light on the microscope should help. Whatever it takes to see whats going on....you will get better at seeing things as you go, but just look for 3 simple things. Clear, cloudy, or amber trichs.
1. Where on the plant should I check for those BUD trics first? outside, middle, top. Or should I say, where does it amber up first usually?
tops are going to be the most ripe, or at least buds branches that are sticking up near tops.
2. Where on the bud, should I check for those trics? All over? Anywhere on the bud?
Anywhere there are a lot of trichs
3. Should I put my plant in the sun?
why do that?
4. Does the Trics get sticky, and not watery?
the trichs are sticky
5. Okay I remember now.... what light is best to view trics under? SHould I do it at lights out, with the lil led on the Microscope? Hitting it with a flashlight at night for a short burst isnt THAT bad right?
dont hit it with flashlights at night. The room light should be good enough to see whats going on, but the light on the microscope should help. Whatever it takes to see whats going on....you will get better at seeing things as you go, but just look for 3 simple things. Clear, cloudy, or amber trichs.
vps
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these pics sorta look like mine....I was thinking they were about done and went and looked at them this am. There they were...growing more white hairs. They are doing that 2nd growth spurt. I thought for sure they were done early this time. I started using co2 this grow. Some of the hairs and trichs had been turning. I couldn't have found this thread at a better time. Thanks
Vannette
Vannette
snowmanexpress
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Thanks Yota.
Well, pure clear. Nothing but clear clear clear.
You guys sure do know your stuff. No arguments here.
Well, I'm trying a way how to check trics,
I just cut a small insignificant piece of leaf off at different spots, center, top, outside, with meh scissors, and I go to 2 different spots around my house with different light. I use the LED on the scope and a flashlight on/off for different light. Im getting really good at it I think. With the focus, and Im checkin around the leaf completely.
All I see is pure watery looking crystal clear trics.
Thanks guys, Ill keep waiting, I definately jumped the gun in the Harvest section with my thread, sorry and at the same time, Thanks so much!
My plant seems to be getting spotty like mag or iron def, but Im not sweating it.
This is what I got to get me thru the rough times haha........
20 dollar crapola with keefer sutherland from the grind.
Some 40 dollar for 4 grams, tastes good, very potent.....
I was looning at these trics on this stuff = AMBERRRR. You can see the deep amber from da trics in da pics... trics in da pics, errbody errbody got dem trics in da pics.
And update pics for 54 day flowering. I do see new "greener" calyxes and white pistils forming that look "newer".
I took your advice and slightly lightly misted all over with plain water, Ill only do it once, and I had a fan in there, and all that jazz so dont hate me, I think it liked it, alot.
fan leafs are getting spotty like a defenciency, sorry i didnt take pics, its a little embarrassing.
Well, pure clear. Nothing but clear clear clear.
You guys sure do know your stuff. No arguments here.
Well, I'm trying a way how to check trics,
I just cut a small insignificant piece of leaf off at different spots, center, top, outside, with meh scissors, and I go to 2 different spots around my house with different light. I use the LED on the scope and a flashlight on/off for different light. Im getting really good at it I think. With the focus, and Im checkin around the leaf completely.
All I see is pure watery looking crystal clear trics.
Thanks guys, Ill keep waiting, I definately jumped the gun in the Harvest section with my thread, sorry and at the same time, Thanks so much!
My plant seems to be getting spotty like mag or iron def, but Im not sweating it.
This is what I got to get me thru the rough times haha........
20 dollar crapola with keefer sutherland from the grind.
Some 40 dollar for 4 grams, tastes good, very potent.....
I was looning at these trics on this stuff = AMBERRRR. You can see the deep amber from da trics in da pics... trics in da pics, errbody errbody got dem trics in da pics.
And update pics for 54 day flowering. I do see new "greener" calyxes and white pistils forming that look "newer".
I took your advice and slightly lightly misted all over with plain water, Ill only do it once, and I had a fan in there, and all that jazz so dont hate me, I think it liked it, alot.
fan leafs are getting spotty like a defenciency, sorry i didnt take pics, its a little embarrassing.
snowmanexpress
Well-Known Member
Okay, I was feeling lazy and I wanted to do something productive, I heard all this flushing stuff leaching, and nute lockup and all that.
So I put my plant in the laundry sink, removed the bottom, and prepared the water to a good temp, I let the water run and fill it up 3 times, then I have a pre-made gallon jug of distilled and rev osmo water pure good water, I finally tapped it off with running this thru it also so I ended on that mix for final water for the next 3 days. Next water I will add 15-30-15. And I plan on doing this again. It was kinda fun.
Did I do a good thing?
Also, okay, 1 more question.....hah another seriously wack highass question.....
can i put batteries bridged together to create an electrical 12v charge in my water to super raise the EC levels hahaha.......
how bout, I hear about ohms in this realm of ec. Nothing is too crazy for me.
So I was thinking......There has GOT to be a perfect frequency of sound that would be optimal to grow bud. And I bet with a super high sophisticated system, I bet you could replicate a sound that would help the plant along. I know im crazy. I just wonder what that magical frequency is? okay im stoned.
So I put my plant in the laundry sink, removed the bottom, and prepared the water to a good temp, I let the water run and fill it up 3 times, then I have a pre-made gallon jug of distilled and rev osmo water pure good water, I finally tapped it off with running this thru it also so I ended on that mix for final water for the next 3 days. Next water I will add 15-30-15. And I plan on doing this again. It was kinda fun.
Did I do a good thing?
Also, okay, 1 more question.....hah another seriously wack highass question.....
can i put batteries bridged together to create an electrical 12v charge in my water to super raise the EC levels hahaha.......
how bout, I hear about ohms in this realm of ec. Nothing is too crazy for me.
So I was thinking......There has GOT to be a perfect frequency of sound that would be optimal to grow bud. And I bet with a super high sophisticated system, I bet you could replicate a sound that would help the plant along. I know im crazy. I just wonder what that magical frequency is? okay im stoned.
snowmanexpress
Well-Known Member
Okay,
the hell with it, i said the 23rd and im gonna do the 23rd, nevermind. sorry. bad post.
Be back on the 23rd.
Not ready yet.
sorry to bump this thread.
the hell with it, i said the 23rd and im gonna do the 23rd, nevermind. sorry. bad post.
Be back on the 23rd.
Not ready yet.
sorry to bump this thread.
snowmanexpress
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Little "4 bulb" Johnny CFL'r is BACK.
23rd came and went,
definately not ready then.........
But now it's almost there.
I have determined this strain to be:
LEMON SKUNK.
It has to be becuase I been studying it for the last 3 months. And also becuase Im a genius and Im NEVER wrong. With that in mind, its grow time is 8-9 wks.
I figured by cropping the top and all the nubness I put it thru, that I halted growth at least a week. So its gotta be early, but my GF is blasting my friggin ears off so I gotta chop today. She blew UP yesterday WOW. I never got in such an argument with her. I started crying becuase it means SO much to me, Im so glad she noticed that in me and she started crying too. In the end I think we both left our conversation better people with each other. Hey, every day cant be roses and feathers right?
I snipped all fanleaves off for the last 4 days of her life for better light at the buds, then I said to myself, "why the fuck did I do that?". Because Im sure she needs the leaves? I said a small prayer for her, and you guys at RIU for greatness. I had the most fun I could ever have here lately because Im a stoner and I love poking smot, and I cant believe I actually grew some of my own.
Now its been under 16 hrs of dark so far, and Im itching to go in there and do my duty. Water is dry. Ive been playing my subwoofers and definatives at 28hrtz and 48 hrtz. off this cd I have called Bass-Mechanix from 1995. And also I took out my car battery that I had positive and negative poles in the water for the last 2 wks. I dunno Im wierd. But she loved it.
Now I got Cypress Hill on repeat and I got "I wanna get high" blastin so my neighbors are calling me.
Be back with pics.
23rd came and went,
definately not ready then.........
But now it's almost there.
I have determined this strain to be:
LEMON SKUNK.
It has to be becuase I been studying it for the last 3 months. And also becuase Im a genius and Im NEVER wrong. With that in mind, its grow time is 8-9 wks.
I figured by cropping the top and all the nubness I put it thru, that I halted growth at least a week. So its gotta be early, but my GF is blasting my friggin ears off so I gotta chop today. She blew UP yesterday WOW. I never got in such an argument with her. I started crying becuase it means SO much to me, Im so glad she noticed that in me and she started crying too. In the end I think we both left our conversation better people with each other. Hey, every day cant be roses and feathers right?
I snipped all fanleaves off for the last 4 days of her life for better light at the buds, then I said to myself, "why the fuck did I do that?". Because Im sure she needs the leaves? I said a small prayer for her, and you guys at RIU for greatness. I had the most fun I could ever have here lately because Im a stoner and I love poking smot, and I cant believe I actually grew some of my own.
Now its been under 16 hrs of dark so far, and Im itching to go in there and do my duty. Water is dry. Ive been playing my subwoofers and definatives at 28hrtz and 48 hrtz. off this cd I have called Bass-Mechanix from 1995. And also I took out my car battery that I had positive and negative poles in the water for the last 2 wks. I dunno Im wierd. But she loved it.
Now I got Cypress Hill on repeat and I got "I wanna get high" blastin so my neighbors are calling me.
Be back with pics.
alldayeriday420
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yeah stop playing and post them pics
snowmanexpress
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thx