Increasing the THC and CBD levels with Mn and Ir - REALLY?

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by Dr. Who, May 1, 2017.

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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    How does Potassium affect color?
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Is there a filter for hemoglobin? Geesh.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    I'm talking about blood meal. Either way, in hydro, I use FeDTPA.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    I was going to say it's your liver. ;-)
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    We were talking about well water but sure ok thankyou. lol.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    That's what organic iron is. What comes out of wells is inorganic (rust). Don't be stupid.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    That's why I asked about the organic iron in the first place. Your just a very angry, unhappy person aren't you lol.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    Yes, you did ask about organic iron, and that's when I posted some examples. Go up and like the post answering your question, ass. It's not me acting unhappy. It's you acting like a jerk.

     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Higher K levels help express natural coloring abilities in plants. It sure works in ours too....
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Damn! Want to know why?

    I have not come across this thing you say. :-)
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Here is pretty much the information I have found.

    http://www.extension.umn.edu/agricu...ment/potassium/potassium-for-crop-production/

    The only color effect is halfway down the article. There is a pic of a potato plant with purpling edges. It is deficient of K.

    Colors are expressing in my garden from fuller spectrum lighting and maybe uv and definitely temp but potassium in the luxery zone promotes photosynthesis and enzyme production. Wouldn't that promote green?
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Read about the effect years ago.
    I have experienced it first hand and in many strains. Time and time again, for years.....Notes of the early attempts/results are from the late 80's...

    In temp use to express - it hastens and increases the cool temp effect. That's from personal experience and in my old notes. I've seen it work outdoors too!

    Book learn'in ain't everything MMG.

    PS In veg, if it happens, it still makes the plant express more in bloom. Still, it's stunting of the plant negates that whole thing. This came about by an oversight in a soil build once.......I spread it out in the veggie garden to get rid of it. Got colorful Brussel sprouts that year! Kale expressed some and the tomato's stems were purple to a point - early on. Did feel the overall yield of the Brussels was less though!
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Oh I'm sorry, I didn't "like" your post, opps.
     
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I'm using extra K on a purple strain that is vegging outdoors. No color expression yet.
    Organic soil w/regular doses of nutrient tea. I've been alternating between two recipes: (5 gal bucket)
    High Octane
    1/2 cup humic acid concentrate
    1/2 cup Peruvian seabird guano (12-11-2)
    2 tbsp Maxi Crop seaweed powder (0-0-17)

    Mean Green
    1/2 cup humic acid concentrate
    1/3 cup alfalfa meal (2.5-0.5-2.5)
    1/3 cup kelp meal (1-0-2)
    1/4 cup bat guano (0-7-0)
    2 tbsp epsom
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    I get way more color with balanced nutes. Too much K yellows plants. You say this all the time. And I know it to be true.

    I never said book learning was everything. I said I want to know why.

    Unless you have found out why. You are just speculating no matter how many times you think you see the results of what you did.

    There are no known processes that support your theory.

    And doesn't it figure the "sulfer feeds trichs" guy liked the comment where you get to say what you think is true even when completely unfounded. And regardless of your time spent its un proven.

    And the persons feelings about their investment in time has more to do with their arguments then science.

    All I have ever said is I want to know the mode of action. It's only growers that don't know saying things back like "book learnin' ain't everything"

    You have to find the mode of action is if you want to say it's true.

    Plants need the balance they need of all of the elements to thrive. That is why they take many tissue samples and just formulate the proper fertilizer for them.

    These tissue samples appear in a few famous cannabis books and soon the info will be common knowledge.

    Dyna Grow is doing this on multiple strains. I assume jacks did for their new products.

    They will know for sure all the true facts about all this forum and hobbiests speculation soon enough with all the companies and government testing with cannabis out in the open.

    And then we will really have cannabis specific nutes and know for sure what they like.

    And and your comment about if it happens in veg proves that you were flowering deficient in K a bit.

    Veg is everything to proper results. The plant will always translocate its nutrients to build new tissue and the more stored in veg properly the better.

    You guys keep pretending to discredit my questions so you can stick to your own answers whether they are true or not.

    I start every time by asking questions. I have not even made any claims. Just barely ever get a real answer unless I research elsewhere.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    You're welcome.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    I exposed his cult leader as a con artist and now he's mad at me, obviously.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Look we were talking about well water and given that you seem like an intelligent person you would know that your answer had nothing to do with well water and then yup, as usual you revert to your angry self and start calling me stupid, that's ok, I understand, your a lonely old, angry man, sorry for that.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    Cult leader ..... who would that be? RM I presume.......well you may want to review my posts re @RM3, we hardly agree on anything really but I don't get all angry about it, for each his own is my motto. Have you recently had a stroke? They sometimes make people angry and confused.
     
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    churchhaze

    churchhaze Well-Known Member

    Organic iron is iron found in an organic molecule like hemoglobin or ferredoxins.. Question answered. You then put 1+1 together and realized that your well water isn't bloody and determined that unless there is organic matter in your well, all the iron it provides is inorganic.
     
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