in your 'personal' view, is possessing seeds and growing plants your right?
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ChesusRice
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DNAprotection
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exactly why the national question needs to be 'is possessing seeds and growing plants, 'any' plants (in effort to meet your own needs in order to 'live') your self evident inherent human right?'
not should weed be legalized lol...only an idiot would go the later rout...
DNAprotection
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twostrokenut
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Is it a self evident human right? Of course. Constitution says nothing about seeds.
DNAprotection
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i pulled this from another thread, it seems better suited here:
- i was put on trial in madera co for felony cultivation charges in 1994 and before 215...
this was also before i understood the concept of a 'general intent crime' so i didnt understand that in such 'criminal' trials (cannabis cultivation being in that category) why you did what you did becomes (unless a judge explicitly rules other wise in pre trial deliberations etc) irrelevant and inadmissible and the only relevant questions become 'did you do it?' or 'did you have it?' etc...(lesson learned, always be a plaintiff if possible rather than a criminal defendant because basically the rules flip to the reverse and give you relevance when telling why your doing what your doing etc lol)
prob for me was that the whole reason i planted the 20,000 seeds was to intentionally go on trial in order to tell the jury why i did what i did lol so you can imagine what a pickle jar i had gotten myself into...
long story short i represented myself and even though for 5 days the judge kept 'shutting me down' and instructing the jury to 'disregard' what ever i had said i kept getting a sentence or two in here and there that 'put the skunk in the jury box' as they say...
because i had 'admitted to guilt' (was even on video tape and called the sheriff myself lol) the judge basically instructed the jury to convict...
the conservative madera co jury came back with a unanimous acquittal...it was a unique jury nullification case...
but you would never know what im about to tell you if you relied on norml's 'official' press releases about the trial/verdict etc...
which is that the 'skunk' i through in the jury box every chance i got was that we all have the self evident inherent human right to posses seeds and grow plants for our own use in effort to satisfy our needs to live...
my point is that we are in this mess imo do to our own negligence in that we have all along been framing this issue wrong or allowing it be framed wrong etc...
our corpsgov relishes in the fact that we help them keep the question away from human rights and only asked in terms of 'should weed be legalized/regulated' etc...
what if?
what if the nation question to the public jury was 'is possessing seeds and growing plants, 'any' plants (in effort to meet your own needs in order to 'live') your self evident inherent human right?
would things be different now?
its not to late to make this happen...
ChesusRice
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DNAprotection
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kinda like whenever you step up to post?
ChesusRice
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DNAprotection
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in all seriousness' in my understanding you have a human right to posses seeds and grow any plant you think you need...
of course if your GE plants start contaminating the gene pool of the commons (or the potential to) then i think we have much more to discuss
ChesusRice
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in all seriousness' in my understanding you have a human right to posses seeds and grow any plant you think you need...
of course if your GE plants start contaminating the gene pool of the commons (or the potential to) then i think we have much more to discuss
It is my goal to turn all the local grown weed into THC producing monsters
You're going to have to get a carbon filter to purify the air coming into your grow room. Which is ok to me. Becuase all the wild monsanto weed will be better than the expensive large carbon footprint weed you grow in your closet
DNAprotection
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actually no, i'll just summon you into court and secure a tidy judgement for reparations in my favor for damages to my heirloom genetics because once you have your human rights back the patents/patent law surrounding human engineered dna blue prints will undoubtedly be effected and 'the commons' would inevitably be given its due recognition in the courts...so in other words...
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ChesusRice
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actually no, i'll just summon you into court and secure a tidy judgement for reparations in my favor for damages to my heirloom genetics because once you have your human rights back the patents/patent law surrounding human engineered dna blue prints will undoubtedly be effected and 'the commons' would inevitably be given its due recognition in the courts...so in other words...
You going to prove what?
That wild weed cross pollinated your weed?
Good Luck buddy
DNAprotection
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wild weed? lol...dude some times im literally shocked by your ignorance...
the 'wild' weed will suddenly be better protected then your GE weed and your GE weed will have clear and present genetic markers that will make it a slam dunk to prove contamination lol...so in other words genius in all likelihood you are the one that would be growing indoors in effort to save your own ass from being sued for liability...
seriously cheesepuff you gotta try to exercise that bone in your head more
ChesusRice
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wild weed? lol...dude some times im literally shocked by your ignorance...
the 'wild' weed will suddenly be better protected then your GE weed and your GE weed will have clear and present genetic markers that will make it a slam dunk to prove contamination lol...so in other words genius in all likelihood you are the one that would be growing indoors in effort to save your own ass from being sued for liability...
seriously cheesepuff you gotta try to exercise that bone in your head more
The wild weed will also have genetic markers from GE. Because I'm going to be Johnny "GE" marijuana seed and plant this great weed all over the place. Plus since it is legal It will be growing outside in my back yard and the yard of my neighbors
DNAprotection
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dude if we had our human rights in this area recognized by law then i would say have at it lil john because in all likelihood such behavior would result in retribution from your neighbors that its not likely you would ever even make it to court...but if by chance they didnt dispatch you to the great beyond you would undoubtedly be facing astronomical monetary reparations and possibly even serious criminal charges lol...
ChesusRice
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DNAprotection
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sooo whats your point?
are you saying you have no idea what 'the commons' means?
or maybe your saying you have no idea how you reach the concept of the commons through your own human rights?
or maybe both?
or maybe you just dont understand the already recognized difference between GE and non GE dna sequencing in the law and how that distinguishing would follow through even into a world where your human rights were recognized...in other words you could posses the seeds and grow the plants but the gene pool of the commons would have first priority for protections and you would end up liable if you pissed in it so to speak
ChesusRice
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Those pictures are the future of Marijuana Production. Get on the train or stay out of the way. This is what is going to happen when full legalization occurs.
And I could care less about seeds in my weed if its 10 bucks an ounce and gets me stoned. We might not have album covers. But we sure as shit still have frisbees
And I could care less about seeds in my weed if its 10 bucks an ounce and gets me stoned. We might not have album covers. But we sure as shit still have frisbees
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