I'm cloning some males... wish me luck!

Dabu

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The title says it all. I have never cloned before, but I just took the cuttings of some males, dipped them in water, stirred them in Shultz root hormone powder, and then put them in moistened peat pellets. I am using disposable 9 ounce clear plastic cups as my humidity dome.

:blsmoke:I will add pics soon. :twisted:




P.S. I'm using Dowzer's peat pellet cloning method. It can be found in the Growing FAQ here:
https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=293
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IGTHY

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The title says it all. I have never cloned before, but I just took the cuttings of some males, dipped them in water, stirred them in Shultz root hormone powder, and then put them in moistened peat pellets. I am using disposable 9 ounce clear plastic cups as my humidity dome.

:blsmoke:I will add pics soon. :twisted:




P.S. I'm using Dowzer's peat pellet cloning method. It can be found in the Growing FAQ here:
GROWFAQ
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That's right do your thang! KEEP SMOKE ALIVE!!
 

incognito

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I just yanked my dying male.
I wondered if you could clone a male.
My thought was clone a female and the clone is female.
Clone a male and the clone is a male.
Not so?
If it went hermie I was thinking of cloning from it, but not a male.

I'm real curious to how this turns out.
 

Dabu

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I clone the males for lots of reassons:
1) pratace
2) the leaves have a high thc at one week in flower (good for hash or smoking)
3) pollen collection (for breading)


Practice practice PRACTICE! :D

Good reasons man, I'm doing the same thing :mrgreen:
 

Dabu

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First off, I started with some peat pellets.






Second, I soak peat pellets in a bowl of shallow water for a few minutes.






While I waited for the peat pellets to expand, I decided to take a look at my two male candidates... Little Red Caboose (left) and B6 (right)






I decided on B6. He is the most potent male plant I have ever smelled.






I got out a knife/dagger, and checked back on my peat pots...






I busted out my rooting hormone and poured a little bit out onto the lid. **Be careful not to inhale or get much skin contact, it's very toxic!**






Deciding the dagger/knife is too blunt, I busted out my scissors and got ready to make my first ever cut...






And I cut it. Here is the plant, post-cutting:






Here is the cutting:






I dipped the cutting in a clear cup of water, and then in the rooting hormone powder, and finally pressed the stem gently into the most, water-soaked peat pot. Note: I used both hands and could not take a picture of me dipping it in the powder...






I went back to the B6 'father' plant and took another cutting. Shown are two pictures of the 2nd cutting:






Here is the father plant after two cuttings:






Here is a good picture of me dipping the cutting into cloning powder:






I took a third cutting, but this time I took my knife/dagger and stripped the bottom a little bit to expose more raw tissue (shown on right):





Now I took the cuttings and placed each one in a separate clear, plastic, 9 ounce wine party cup. This will look great once the roots start to form.






Finally, I got a peace of tape and taped an identical clear, plastic cup to the top of each one, using the tap as a hinge.



:leaf:All done!:leaf:

Feel free to +rep me if this helped you with anything! :twisted:


P.S. This grow journal DIY guide post took me longer than the actual cloning did.
 
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ReinventinBudz

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looks nice.

i had a stupid idea that i was going to try with one of my clones. i am going to try and instigate two seperate root system for a single plant. not sure if it will work but i want to instead of making one cut, make two and take a branch from the middle of the plant and cut the stock or stem 2 ish (up and down) inches from the branch i want to sprout. then dip both ends into the cloning powder and put both ends into rockwool or pete or neoprin for cloning machines. hopefully both ends grow roots.

so what are you planning on pollenating with your males? what are your males?
 

Dabu

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looks nice.

i had a stupid idea that i was going to try with one of my clones. i am going to try and instigate two seperate root system for a single plant. not sure if it will work but i want to instead of making one cut, make two and take a branch from the middle of the plant and cut the stock or stem 2 ish (up and down) inches from the branch i want to sprout. then dip both ends into the cloning powder and put both ends into rockwool or pete or neoprin for cloning machines. hopefully both ends grow roots.
That's not a stupid idea at all! In fact, I believe it works. You saw how my second two cuttings had two open wounds. I just didn't have the room, or the side branches required to dip both sides in rooting solution and placing them underground. That being said, be sure to update me on how it turns out! Do you have a link to a grow journal by any chance? It's never too late to make one. :P I use my cell phone camera, that's it.

so what are you planning on pollenating with your males? what are your males?
I don't know what I'm going to do with them. I mainly just want practice so that once I decide to clone females I will be able to clone them effectively without having any die.

The strain is unknown, the Little Red Caboose is middlegrade bagseed from a frat house I went to a couple years back. The B6 is tupperware bagseed that I got from my friend, who got it from his friend, who got it from his dad (his dad apparently grows, lol). I could probably find out some time though.
 

ReinventinBudz

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now why can't i have a dad like that. lol

just so you know, and i have never used one but i have seen them for sale. you can get a pollen collector. not exactly sure how it works but i see pics of the end result and looks like the guys get ounces of pollen off the plants using these things.

if i recall i think they were a bit pricey, but i don't remember the price.

the two root system is an okay idea. thing that can backfire about it is that if the two roots only grow to 50%. then it wouldn't be much of a difference except that it had two roots. but another problem is that you would have to kill whatever plant you take the cutting from (probably) since you have to cut the stem and not just the branch like on a normal clone.

but the basic hope is that with two roots each will grow at least 75% of thier potential giving the plant 150% roots, 50% more than it had before. 2 roots at 75% potential is better than 1 root at 100% potential. ya know?

i will start a grow journal soon, i am waiting on some seeds i ordered.

l8r
 

ReinventinBudz

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here's another stupid skeevy stoner idea. i know this one is way out there the concept is intelligiable, but the idea is probably stupid. throught time and the life of plants i guarentee that at least one bug died in the pistol while in the middle of pollenation. so the idea is to put a dead bee or something inside the pistol while pollenating it and then see what the seeds do that come from that pistol. they might have some wierd dna to them since they had a dead bee inside the pistol when it was pollenated.

another stupid stoner idea, but i was just trying to think of how to fuck with the plant the same way the world and mother nature fucks with the plants. and like i said, it doesn't happen everyday. but now and then i guarentee a bug dies mid pollenating.

l8r
 

Dabu

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It makes perfect sense.

By the way, my clones were actually taken from the main stem. I cut the tip off the plant and used that as my first clone! Then I cut another two inches off the main stem and used that as my second clone! Then I cut another two inches off the main stem and used that as my third clone! Bwahaha. Hopefully the father plant will grow side branches. ;)
 

Jesushasdreads

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i clone males if im trying to keep the genetics of a paticular male around so the plant doesn't overgrow its container, get rootbound or block the light of the females in the same veg area. i grow them to about 6 nodes, clone the main growth tip and the heftiest looking branch (in case for some reason i lose a clone i have a back up) then when they both root, or one roots first, i keep the most robust rooted cutting...then the process starts again until i need those paticular genes for an experiment. then i flower it when it is still compact and take the pollen when it develops. plus this way the pre-flowers dont grow out much and i dont risk getting a busted pollen sac on my nice veging females.
 

Dabu

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i clone males if im trying to keep the genetics of a paticular male around so the plant doesn't overgrow its container, get rootbound or block the light of the females in the same veg area. i grow them to about 6 nodes, clone the main growth tip and the heftiest looking branch (in case for some reason i lose a clone i have a back up) then when they both root, or one roots first, i keep the most robust rooted cutting...then the process starts again until i need those paticular genes for an experiment. then i flower it when it is still compact and take the pollen when it develops. plus this way the pre-flowers dont grow out much and i dont risk getting a busted pollen sac on my nice veging females.

Interesting. How do you harvest the pollen? How far away / where do you keep the male clones with respect to the female plants? Do you go from handling the males, straight to handling the females, or do you need to wash your hands first, etc?
 

Jesushasdreads

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GROWFAQ

there are numerous ways to harvest the pollen...i use a small glass jelly jar and a paintbrush (no synthetic hairs) to collect the pollen...i dont usually store it very long if at all because i dont flower my males until i need the pollen then time itout so that around the 2-3 week mark of flowering the females i have ready pollen to dust a few braches w/. during veg i keep my males and females side by side, but before moving any females from the room everything gets a mist down. usually i dont have any problems with transfer of pollen or accidental pollination....regular wipedown with a weak cleaning solution. i also designate clothes to wear around flowering males (flowering males should have there own growing space away from any female plants) as this can cross pollinate entire crops if you accidently rub your girls wearing the same clothes or not scrubbing up a little (pollen will attach to arm hairs skin anything)
 
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