If Your Plant Comes Out Worth Less Than a Poopy Flavored Lollipop You May Suck

My420

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Ok so I made this thread because I think that it is so funny how much bad information is out there. Whether it is intended to purposely make people grow worse or it is just because there are a lot of uneducated stupid people who grew one harvest that came out so bad it can barely pass as dirt weed but swear that is was the best and produced 6 ounces per plant off of a 18 inch tall and 14 inch wide plant with colas the size of a lighter when still wet is rediculous. It is so funny to see people talking so much crap when they have no clue. You always can tell who they are because they only talk crap and never have any educated or facts or proof to back it up. If you tell me that you did this that and the other SHOW ME and to anyone that does not believe what I do works... Watch the video of my grow room as I keep making them so hopefully someone will give me a hint to get better but so far all I have come across is uneducated guesses to what they may think you have to do to make it better. I would love it because if you can SHOW ME how to get better bring it on but please if you are a stupid newb who grew 1 harvest only to produce a plant less valuable then a poopy flavored lolipop please do not embarrass yourself anymore and cancel your account and kill yourself. No one needs bad or uneducated advice when it is obvious that you have no clue. So to all the people who know whats up this is for you. Show me some good healthy plants that are in veg or flower and tell me what is working for you but please do not waste space or time giving us some uneducated ridiculous way to increase yields that you heard from some guy that heard from some guy who's dad's brothers uncles second cousin used once. If you have a suggestion post some evidence of it. Video or picture and flex your skills. No proof then do not bother to post because I will not respond. Will respond to any questions that are not idiotic and please do not try to make yourself seem like you know what your talking about if you do not have a clue. It only makes you look stupid.
 

lobsterxmanx

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i know what you mean man, there are a lot of cocky fuckers out there that think because theyre breaking the law and growing something illegal and its still alive that theyre badasses. but it will always end up shitty quality. i only ever give advice that i have personally experienced or that someone reputable has told me. so many assume they know everything there is to know about weed, but the path to wisdom is realising that one actually knows nothing. we just need to be more vigalent and not feed any obvious looking trolls...
 

My420

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i know what you mean man, there are a lot of cocky fuckers out there that think because theyre breaking the law and growing something illegal and its still alive that theyre badasses. but it will always end up shitty quality. i only ever give advice that i have personally experienced or that someone reputable has told me. so many assume they know everything there is to know about weed, but the path to wisdom is realising that one actually knows nothing. we just need to be more vigalent and not feed any obvious looking trolls...
Wow I could not have said that better if I had a week to think about it + rep for sure. I love the answer it is just like me although I will not even suggest something that has not helped me personally increase yields or quality. That way I know for sure what I am saying is true because there was proof from results.
 

TshirtNinja

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Ok so I made this thread because I think that it is so funny how much bad information is out there. Whether it is intended to purposely make people grow worse or it is just because there are a lot of uneducated stupid people who grew one harvest that came out so bad it can barely pass as dirt weed but swear that is was the best and produced 6 ounces per plant off of a 18 inch tall and 14 inch wide plant with colas the size of a lighter when still wet is rediculous. It is so funny to see people talking so much crap when they have no clue. You always can tell who they are because they only talk crap and never have any educated or facts or proof to back it up. If you tell me that you did this that and the other SHOW ME and to anyone that does not believe what I do works... Watch the video of my grow room as I keep making them so hopefully someone will give me a hint to get better but so far all I have come across is uneducated guesses to what they may think you have to do to make it better. I would love it because if you can SHOW ME how to get better bring it on but please if you are a stupid newb who grew 1 harvest only to produce a plant less valuable then a poopy flavored lolipop please do not embarrass yourself anymore and cancel your account and kill yourself. No one needs bad or uneducated advice when it is obvious that you have no clue. So to all the people who know whats up this is for you. Show me some good healthy plants that are in veg or flower and tell me what is working for you but please do not waste space or time giving us some uneducated ridiculous way to increase yields that you heard from some guy that heard from some guy who's dad's brothers uncles second cousin used once. If you have a suggestion post some evidence of it. Video or picture and flex your skills. No proof then do not bother to post because I will not respond. Will respond to any questions that are not idiotic and please do not try to make yourself seem like you know what your talking about if you do not have a clue. It only makes you look stupid.
+rep bro.
It's a lot of bs and name calling and people that are stuck on brands. I researched heavily into my personal situation and figured out that I needed low heat and easy ventilation and that I couldn't afford to do a flower and veg chamber. I ended up with a nice LED setup with multiple 240w panels and only ended up needing a 4" inline fan to vent it all. Found out that growing autoflowers is pretty sweet gig if you are doing personal grow and need plenty of meds and prefer quality over quantity and in a timely manner. When I post journals on here all I got was OMG your F...... panel is garbage mine is superior because its 4x the price of yours and even though your grows show the same weights and in many cases your wrong blah blah blah. Then I get the HID haters that think that I am using some sort of car in dash led light like some sort of high tech cave man. Then I get the photoperiod only growers that tell me that you can't get more than an oz a plant when I easily pull 2 and stand to pull 4 off my next batch with no bullshiting. All I get is YOUR A LIAR BLAH BLAH BLAH...... *sigh*
I don't care in the end because I'm the only one smoking my bud so if I ever did lie I would just be lieing to myself lol.
 

mimmen

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I prefer to listen, there are a few things I can help out with. Some people don't wanna learn, they just like the sound of their voice or seeing their post on the internet. Been at this for ten years and in the big scheme of things I only have a slither of the knowledge thats out there. Through trial, I know that LST can double my yields but it will double my work load as well.
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AleienKing

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All you need is dirt,water,light! Dont over feed dont over water dont over "love" dont obsess dont over spend.
 

lobsterxmanx

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I prefer to listen, there are a few things I can help out with. Some people don't wanna learn, they just like the sound of their voice or seeing their post on the internet. Been at this for ten years and in the big scheme of things I only have a slither of the knowledge thats out there. Through trial, I know that LST can double my yields but it will double my work load as well.
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very nice, i agree. ive never done anything complicated any hydroponic organic bat shit, i leave that to the ganga master until i hone my skills. i mean there are just a lot of common knowledge things that newbs need help with, and thats what i usually do. i read and watch the big threads, thats pretty much what their for, listen to experts give eachother their opinions. nice pics by the way... :)
 

My420

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+rep bro.
It's a lot of bs and name calling and people that are stuck on brands. I researched heavily into my personal situation and figured out that I needed low heat and easy ventilation and that I couldn't afford to do a flower and veg chamber. I ended up with a nice LED setup with multiple 240w panels and only ended up needing a 4" inline fan to vent it all. Found out that growing autoflowers is pretty sweet gig if you are doing personal grow and need plenty of meds and prefer quality over quantity and in a timely manner. When I post journals on here all I got was OMG your F...... panel is garbage mine is superior because its 4x the price of yours and even though your grows show the same weights and in many cases your wrong blah blah blah. Then I get the HID haters that think that I am using some sort of car in dash led light like some sort of high tech cave man. Then I get the photoperiod only growers that tell me that you can't get more than an oz a plant when I easily pull 2 and stand to pull 4 off my next batch with no bullshiting. All I get is YOUR A LIAR BLAH BLAH BLAH...... *sigh*
I don't care in the end because I'm the only one smoking my bud so if I ever did lie I would just be lieing to myself lol.
yea true that right? But I guess the people that do not really know crap say those things to make them selves feel like they know something when it is obviously not researched and they have absolutely no evidence of what they are saying. Is funny to because those people never seem to have a good picture of what their crop came out like. Most people have a pic of there best nug ever grown and only brag about that saying I grow this every time blah blah blah. LOL it is just to funny.
 

My420

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I prefer to listen, there are a few things I can help out with. Some people don't wanna learn, they just like the sound of their voice or seeing their post on the internet. Been at this for ten years and in the big scheme of things I only have a slither of the knowledge thats out there. Through trial, I know that LST can double my yields but it will double my work load as well.
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True that. LST is the way I go. Speaking of which .... Last post I had about LST some one told me that you only lose 30% doing that LMAO. Posts like that is what this thread is for and would not agree more most of it is something they THINK they know but really have no fkn clue. Most can not even tell their head from a hole in the ground.
 

gweddo6868

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True that. LST is the way I go. Speaking of which .... Last post I had about LST some one told me that you only lose 30% doing that LMAO. Posts like that is what this thread is for and would not agree more most of it is something they THINK they know but really have no fkn clue. Most can not even tell their head from a hole in the ground.
i have been a grower for over two years they are a few things i have learned the darkside of the grow community grow shops they always try to sell u dont need a few examples i went from foxfarm to root organics soil and this guy that worked there tried to get me to buy the line of nutes that go with these soil i added it all up in my head i would have spent like close to 400 hundred that day i dont like running naked backwards threw a corn field and another time i was at a new grow shop a guy was being talked into bud candy its like 90 for a liter bottle how retarded to try to make the buds taste better and get bigger what a joke and to my fellow card holders if you buy clones from a dispense use extreme caution take a microscope and check very close for mites i have made these mistake i ask the cloneguy if the clones were healthly they looked good and he said yeah there good there weren't all my plants got sick with mites and fucked my crop all up it cost me thousand of dollars and to the brightside know if i want new stuff to grow i order straight from the source amsterdam singleseedcentre.com caus u know what your getting if u dont want to spend a fortune on grow supplys htgsupply.com is your spot and u see alot in this site people spend a fortune for there setup and even im blown away by some of the stuff i see and know i could ever match it to me a fuckin awesome grower is a person that can spend the least grow the least amount of plants and get the heaviest yields and the best tasting smoke anybody can full a room with plants and grow alot of pot and make money that a no brainer heres the problem and any good grower will know this hydro is the way to go for yields excellent crystal production and dank taste if done rite with flushing and curing and drying but nothing bets taste of soil grown plants bottomline my best for hydro is 4 and a quarter ounces off one plant dried and soil was just below two ounces dried i used ionic bloom and pk boost on both sets and spring water for the soil plants and tap water for my dwc setup under a 1000 watt light and recently have bought a co2 setup which helps out alot to in fattin and crystalized behind belief if soil growing use large containers that are wide not very tall remeber the plant will only grow as wide as big as the container is the bigger the better lst is excellent method to topping a plant inside not so good unless your growing small plant but outdoors it is perfect for topping hopefully my experinces help
 

My420

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i have been a grower for over two years they are a few things i have learned the darkside of the grow community grow shops they always try to sell u dont need a few examples i went from foxfarm to root organics soil and this guy that worked there tried to get me to buy the line of nutes that go with these soil i added it all up in my head i would have spent like close to 400 hundred that day i dont like running naked backwards threw a corn field and another time i was at a new grow shop a guy was being talked into bud candy its like 90 for a liter bottle how retarded to try to make the buds taste better and get bigger what a joke and to my fellow card holders if you buy clones from a dispense use extreme caution take a microscope and check very close for mites i have made these mistake i ask the cloneguy if the clones were healthly they looked good and he said yeah there good there weren't all my plants got sick with mites and fucked my crop all up it cost me thousand of dollars and to the brightside know if i want new stuff to grow i order straight from the source amsterdam singleseedcentre.com caus u know what your getting if u dont want to spend a fortune on grow supplys htgsupply.com is your spot and u see alot in this site people spend a fortune for there setup and even im blown away by some of the stuff i see and know i could ever match it to me a fuckin awesome grower is a person that can spend the least grow the least amount of plants and get the heaviest yields and the best tasting smoke anybody can full a room with plants and grow alot of pot and make money that a no brainer heres the problem and any good grower will know this hydro is the way to go for yields excellent crystal production and dank taste if done rite with flushing and curing and drying but nothing bets taste of soil grown plants bottomline my best for hydro is 4 and a quarter ounces off one plant dried and soil was just below two ounces dried i used ionic bloom and pk boost on both sets and spring water for the soil plants and tap water for my dwc setup under a 1000 watt light and recently have bought a co2 setup which helps out alot to in fattin and crystalized behind belief if soil growing use large containers that are wide not very tall remeber the plant will only grow as wide as big as the container is the bigger the better lst is excellent method to topping a plant inside not so good unless your growing small plant but outdoors it is perfect for topping hopefully my experinces help
Well depending on what nutes he was trying to sell you it may be true but mostly it is just to sell you stuff. I have to say I spend way more in nutes today then I did when I started some of them very expensive like Purple Max and Gravity by humboldt nutrients but let me tell you that stuff works so well for me when I use in Foliar feed it is unreal. Just be care full not to get sucked into getting stuff that you do not know how to properly use either. Example if you get the purple max you need to know what to mix it with and with that stuff when I mix with other parts of my Foliar feed now which is Superthrive, Wet Betty, and Hydroplex it creates a bacteria that makes it smell like piss about a day or 2 later so you always have to mix that fresh. I would definitely not buy a bunch at one time but maybe experiment with one here and one here to see the results. Also the real key is what ingredients your plant is getting and how it works with the structure of the plant. Most people do not think of that but just think Add nutes and go when that is not the case. They are so fragile it is ridiculous. Just like if you want to get big and buff you got to eat right. That is just nature and how God made it. So if you want them to look good they have to eat right to and they have to have more then just some nutrients bud enhancers and water.
 

gweddo6868

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Well depending on what nutes he was trying to sell you it may be true but mostly it is just to sell you stuff. I have to say I spend way more in nutes today then I did when I started some of them very expensive like Purple Max and Gravity by humboldt nutrients but let me tell you that stuff works so well for me when I use in Foliar feed it is unreal. Just be care full not to get sucked into getting stuff that you do not know how to properly use either. Example if you get the purple max you need to know what to mix it with and with that stuff when I mix with other parts of my Foliar feed now which is Superthrive, Wet Betty, and Hydroplex it creates a bacteria that makes it smell like piss about a day or 2 later so you always have to mix that fresh. I would definitely not buy a bunch at one time but maybe experiment with one here and one here to see the results. Also the real key is what ingredients your plant is getting and how it works with the structure of the plant. Most people do not think of that but just think Add nutes and go when that is not the case. They are so fragile it is ridiculous. Just like if you want to get big and buff you got to eat right. That is just nature and how God made it. So if you want them to look good they have to eat right to and they have to have more then just some nutrients bud enhancers and water.
i argee very strong points and it does vary from strain to strain on here is a wide spectrum of peeps though some dont have money for all the expensive stuff and some wont buy it u said it right its the way god made things why reinvent the wheel the more stuff introduced into ur garden the more things that can go wrong keepin it simple as possible is key and most peeps on here grow at least a few strains at a time and even with following a feeding schedule they will come out different results may vary lol and even if u find a sweet spot with one strain if and when u changed up u will beat urself up trying to use multi chemicals and u said that rite people lose plants or whole sets of plants i see it on here all the time plants problem most of it is due to over feeding but some is due just being to fragile to the chemicals learn ur chemicals people research them ask people on here learn advanced growing tech low stress training and topping lollipopin ur plants will make huge difference co2 another good one expensive chemicals are not always the ticket remember simple simple simple caus that what a plant is
 

a mongo frog

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i luv all the advice on this site good or bad. people just trying to help one another. if the op thinks he make all the right decisions in growing hes a liar, and an idiot. saying he sick of people giving bad advise. if your sick of it dont post. if your that pissed off then get off the site. i think its great people are trying to grow and give advise, its up to the grower to make the final decision, not some one else.
 

Grumpy Old Dreamer

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i have been a grower for over two years they are a few things i have learned the darkside of the grow community grow shops they always try to sell u dont need a few examples i went from foxfarm to root organics soil and this guy that worked there tried to get me to buy the line of nutes that go with these soil i added it all up in my head i would have spent like close to 400 hundred that day i dont like running naked backwards threw a corn field and another time i was at a new grow shop a guy was being talked into bud candy its like 90 for a liter bottle how retarded to try to make the buds taste better and get bigger what a joke and to my fellow card holders if you buy clones from a dispense use extreme caution take a microscope and check very close for mites i have made these mistake i ask the cloneguy if the clones were healthly they looked good and he said yeah there good there weren't all my plants got sick with mites and fucked my crop all up it cost me thousand of dollars and to the brightside know if i want new stuff to grow i order straight from the source amsterdam singleseedcentre.com caus u know what your getting if u dont want to spend a fortune on grow supplys htgsupply.com is your spot and u see alot in this site people spend a fortune for there setup and even im blown away by some of the stuff i see and know i could ever match it to me a fuckin awesome grower is a person that can spend the least grow the least amount of plants and get the heaviest yields and the best tasting smoke anybody can full a room with plants and grow alot of pot and make money that a no brainer heres the problem and any good grower will know this hydro is the way to go for yields excellent crystal production and dank taste if done rite with flushing and curing and drying but nothing bets taste of soil grown plants bottomline my best for hydro is 4 and a quarter ounces off one plant dried and soil was just below two ounces dried i used ionic bloom and pk boost on both sets and spring water for the soil plants and tap water for my dwc setup under a 1000 watt light and recently have bought a co2 setup which helps out alot to in fattin and crystalized behind belief if soil growing use large containers that are wide not very tall remeber the plant will only grow as wide as big as the container is the bigger the better lst is excellent method to topping a plant inside not so good unless your growing small plant but outdoors it is perfect for topping hopefully my experinces help
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AleienKing

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if you obsess... its like doing time(jail) and thinking about your release date everyday! Shit goes slow (not that ive done time) 2 most important things... water ph 6.4 6.8 nothing lower or higher unless you have no option . Soil? Go miracle gro! (forget what people say) just make sure you sterilize the dirt (either in micro, oven or boil water and water the pot like 5 times through)kills spider mites bugs etc... also takes some and hopefully NOT all of the nutes in soil. (MG is good stuff grows monsters) forget name brands and word of mouth do what works for you! who you impressing with a set up? Its the end result thats impressive not the state of the art deco pastel ultra supreme high tech machine. WATER DIRT LIGHT! oh and a bottle of "liquid ladybug"
 

gweddo6868

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Everybody that has posted in here. Should go ahead and post pics of there plants!!!!! The proof is always in the pudding!!!!!
 

sebastopolian

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I have been growing for over ten year's, and along the way I have learned & keep on learning ( I keep an open mine) I was forunate enough to learn from some of the most Experience grower's Indoor & out, and learned from them. It took some time and working with other's to find how to not only grow great smoke, but also to increase the yield. And of course, having a great pheno type ( strain) is ideal. I have seen the most beautiful buds, but didnt make good smoke. So Pix. r great but really not proof til smoked. I take pride in my meds. and never cut up on other's grow's...cause we all grow different: Soil, soilless med., Hydro, indoor, out, nutes, lighting, etc. So what work's for one may not be prefered by another. But this site is a nice way to share r experinces & knowledge without being to judgemental. Peace & Happy gardening!:peace:
 

dopeedogg

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True that. LST is the way I go. Speaking of which .... Last post I had about LST some one told me that you only lose 30% doing that LMAO. Posts like that is what this thread is for and would not agree more most of it is something they THINK they know but really have no fkn clue. Most can not even tell their head from a hole in the ground.
Very true! ! ! Maybe HE lost 30%, not everyone.....It's like when People argue that indoor is better than outdoor....Well, I have seen amazing shit indoors, but i have also seen incredible outdoor. If you take 2 clones and give one to a newbie who grows hydro, and give the other to an expert who grows outdoor, and after harvesting the outdoor looks way better than the burnt fluffy hyrdo...That MUST mean that outdoor is better and that hydro sucks right?.... No it just means the one who grew hydro was probably new and didnt know shit, and he probably over fert, over water ect... I hear the same argument about sativia vs indica..."This guys grew an indica and it sucked, tasted like shit"...."so sativa is way better, I dont like indicas at all" ...Well maybe he fucked up the indica, maybe it had spider mites and your smoking insecticide...who knows right? One thing Ive learned is to just trial and error...Learn from your mistakes and listen to those few people who actually want to help, not the ones who tell you to do this, and buy this certain brand....



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dopeedogg

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I agree, and usually when Im browsing on Roll It Up im pretty medicated as it is ha ha, so it makes it even more difficult...lol
 
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