If you could start this country over....

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Yeah great Idea.
3-5 independant investigation teams.

*We need to re-explain the meaning of the commurse clause to these people.
*Shit-Can the 17th amendment give the senate back to the states legislatures.
It was the state governments that formed the Federal Government.
The people are represented by the House.
The States need more say in the Federal governments affairs.
They get extorted by the feds regularly.
That needs to end.

End the Fed
End the 16th amendment
Disband Homeland security
(Feds have very little law enforcement powers
Downsize the BATF, DEA, Secret Service, FBI, ect.
Roll them all into one agency, The Federal Marshals Service
That will streamline intelegence gathering while cutting cost)
End the Dept. of Education (The Feds have no buisness in education)

Gold money, competing currencies, something,
its clear we can't trust bankers with the printing presses.

I would like to see the states collect all tax revinue and deliver it on April 15.
Minus everything the Feds promised them.
I don't like the Feds extorting the states.

The Constitution really is an amazing peace of work.
Only minor problems with the original document.
Most of the flaws I find are later amendments and
misinterpritations of the meanings of the original.
 

puffntuff

Well-Known Member
It's a pretty common idea on here to shrink the fed and give power back to the states. We just have to make our voice heard when it comes to nominating someone to represent us. The lobbyist big business and other scumbags have someone representing them at every election it's about time we return the favor.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Bring back Lincoin-Douglas debates.
This is vital IMO, the debates now are, for lack of a better word, BullShit.
A place were good canidates are gotcha-ed out of the race.

Thats why I liked Ron Paul he didn't use politician speak.
He would answer the questions posed to him.
Without changing the Fucking Subject.
I mean where do these people learn to talk so much and say so very little?
Do they teach that in Collage or what?
 

ancap

Active Member
Founding your social order on violence will only ensure that the violence grows. Don't expect that piece of paper called the constitution to save you. This government beast has never been cut down to size despite great efforts, it only grows until it dies. We can only hope it doesn't kill us in its death throws!
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
I feel ya Ancap I really do.
I don't want violence
I would prefer to do absolutly nothing for a great length of time.
Simple non-compliance.
If we don't feed the beast it will starve.
Killing anyone would do much more harm then good anyway.

But Like i said before:
Americans Love their chains.
These are super new chains.
Their Titanium they rest lightly.
 

ancap

Active Member
I feel ya Ancap I really do.
I don't want violence
I would prefer to do absolutly nothing for a great length of time.
Simple non-compliance.
If we don't feed the beast it will starve.
Killing anyone would do much more harm then good anyway.
Not sure what you mean by this.

But Like i said before:
Americans Love their chains.
These are super new chains.
Their Titanium they rest lightly.
Like I said before, Americans who love their chains are addicted, and do not need their addiction enabled. I suppose you are saying it is hopeless to advocate for freedom. The thing is, I don't need to achieve a free society in order to be a successful advocate for freedom. I just need to live passionately, advocating the ethics of freedom and exposing the evils of slavery. The slave master with the gun is going to do as they please... we've already given them power.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
It's a pretty common idea on here to shrink the fed and give power back to the states. We just have to make our voice heard when it comes to nominating someone to represent us. The lobbyist big business and other scumbags have someone representing them at every election it's about time we return the favor.
Right on!
Then let's shrink the power of the states and bring back the power of the individuals!! :blsmoke:
 
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