If Ron Paul doesnt win we should...

canndo said:

You were saying that regulation doesn't keep food safe and regulation doesn't make drugs safe and now you talk about banks. Handy, but because someone gets sick on spinach doesn't mean regs don't work, and that is what we were talking about. You might consider that if you have no new place for the Bull, a little more sturdy fence might work just as well.

Find a case of mad cow disease in the U.S. yet?

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What is the purpose of food regulations?

Find any cases of mad cow in Somalia?

You don't keep bulls fenced in with the rest of the cattle there city slicker.

NoDrama said:

What is the purpose of food regulations?

Find any cases of mad cow in Somalia?

You don't keep bulls fenced in with the rest of the cattle there city slicker.

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the U.S. is not somalia, and I doubt Somalia imports much beef.

Ok, no bulls, the resulting point remains fully intact.

Purpose of food regulations? depends on the regulation.

canndo said:

Purpose of food regulations? depends on the regulation.

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But you just said in a earlier post that Regulations are what makes food safe, now you are saying that they don't.

With no bulls to break the fence you don't have a point.

Mad Cow disease comes from Importing beef? Pretty sure it comes from a infectious disease in the brain of cattle. Humans can get it from eating tainted beef, but it is very rare.

NoDrama said:

But you just said in a earlier post that Regulations are what makes food safe, now you are saying that they don't.

With no bulls to break the fence you don't have a point.

Mad Cow disease comes from Importing beef? Pretty sure it comes from a infectious disease in the brain of cattle. Humans can get it from eating tainted beef, but it is very rare.

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You want to play or do you want to obfuscate?

Saying "depends on the regulation" is not in any way saying that regulations don't "make us safe"

A very large cow - my point remains.

You said it yourself, infectious disease - no infected animals in the U.S., no spread of diease, import an infected cow, import the disease. Let diseased animals infect each other, they poison humans. We import cows from lots of places, no mad Cow disease in humans - coincidence?

canndo said:

Saying "depends on the regulation" is not in any way saying that regulations don't "make us safe"

A very large cow - my point remains.

You said it yourself, infectious disease - no infected animals in the U.S., no spread of diease, import an infected cow, import the disease. Let diseased animals infect each other, they poison humans. We import cows from lots of places, no mad Cow disease in humans - coincidence?

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Help Ive fallen into the logical hole in your argument and can't get out! Regulations by themselves do not make food safe, only those regulations that are acted upon and enforced make food SAFER, but not perfectly safe since no human system can ever be perfect. There will always be things that get through and cause harm the regulation was intended to mitigate. Always.

We sell the very large cows for slaughter, we get paid by the pound. Cows are very docile creatures, they don't break fences much, sheep on the other hand find ways through fences that you wouldn't imagine could be found.

If cows break the fence everyday I move the cows, if it is a one time occurrence I fix the fence, your solution is to fix the fence no matter how many times they break it. But worry not, once all the garden veggies have been eaten they will no longer break the fence. You are going to starve though because you didn't have the logical thought process to see that the cows were the problem, not the fence. Next year, move the garden.



Sorry to tell you the truth, but there have definitely been cases of importing cows into the USA with Mad Cow (BSE). Besides you don't get it from importing cows with the disease, some cows just come down with it. I suggest you do more reading on the subject before espousing how flawless the BSE record is here in the USA, you are just deceiving yourself. Some might call it being ignorant, but I truly think you thought that mad cow had never reared its ugly head in this country. people are living with the disease here in the USA right now. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/bse/

NoDrama said:

Sorry to tell you the truth, but there have definitely been cases of importing cows into the USA with Mad Cow (BSE). Besides you don't get it from importing cows with the disease, some cows just come down with it. I suggest you do more reading on the subject before espousing how flawless the BSE record is here in the USA, you are just deceiving yourself. Some might call it being ignorant, but I truly think you thought that mad cow had never reared its ugly head in this country. people are living with the disease here in the USA right now. http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/bse/

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I didn't see anything about spontaneous mad cow disease, it said that it was transfered from one cow to another, mostly by feeding the cows the nervous systems of others. I didn't see anything about people having the disease in the U.S. what did I miss?

NoDrama said:

But you just said in a earlier post that Regulations are what makes food safe, now you are saying that they don't.

With no bulls to break the fence you don't have a point.

Mad Cow disease comes from Importing beef? Pretty sure it comes from a infectious disease in the brain of cattle. Humans can get it from eating tainted beef, but it is very rare.

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Please take that quote out of your signature. You've taken my words out of context in order to make it sound like I was saying something I was not. Please either put the full statement in the quote, or remove it now please.

Dan Kone said:

Please take that quote out of your signature. You've taken my words out of context in order to make it sound like I was saying something I was not. Please either put the full statement in the quote, or remove it now please.

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His sig looks like a conversation between you and duke.

sync0s said:

His sig looks like a conversation between you and duke.

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Yes, it's very misleading.

It would be like if I put this in my sig. Sure, he said the words, but the actual context shows he was not intending to say that at all.

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Dan Kone said:

Yes, it's very misleading.

It would be like if I put this in my sig. Sure, he said the words, but the actual context shows he was not intending to say that at all.

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He's practicing to become a spin master.

Cut him some slack...

My PERSONAL opinion is that it should be taken off. Not because it offends Dan but because it is an under-handed tactic imo.

sync0s said:

He's practicing to become a spin master.

Cut him some slack...

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Well at least someone here gets it.

Be careful with the new NDAA bill they could declare you a terrorist and take you away with no charges to a secret prison and waterboard you until you confess the error of your ways then put you to work making office furniture in the prison labor system. Surreal.

VILEPLUME said:

...start our own government with the 99% and take back America and our freedoms!

Who is with me?

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Not surreal. False information.

canndo said:

We havn't been made to serve involuntarily for 50 years. We pay for war because it is a part of the package, we are also protected by our military, there are other countries who would take advantage if we had none - this also is safety. A license is not permission to travel, it is permission to drive, two completely different things. So many conflate different things as though they were all the same old "government opression". The federal government does not issue driver's licenses.

Nothing "assures" safety but it does tend to make food and drugs more safe. I can't recall a single instance of mad cow disease in the United States, and I don't think there has been one. Do you believe that is just coincidence?

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People must still "register for the draft" or face a felony. Also people must pay upon threat of force for the guns and bombs to kill others in foreign lands. That constitutes an involuntary service. War is only "part of the package" because of the money made...it is not about defending people's lives or the borders ofthe United States. The majority of travel in the USA is by car....cars must have "permission" via a license plate, licensed driver etc. Also if a person chooses to travel by plane, they must be felt up at an airport...I think that constitutes "needing permission". Ever hear of a "passport" ? That's permission isn't it?

Mad cow disease scare you? Eat beef raised by somebody you know...problem solved.

The nature of government is not to protect, but to consolidate and acquire power. Whether you acknowledge this or not is up to you.