Ice conditioning

RoadhouseToker

RoadhouseToker

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i was thinking about using ice to chill my grow tent and this is what i have came up with so far. i plan on making a heavily insulated box so that i can keep the ice as cold as possible to help counteract the melting. ducting that brings fresh air in from outside will be connected to the box and the air will run over the ice block and out the other side. it will then travel through more ducting and into my grow tent. the air in the tent will be pulled out by a 240 cfm inline fan that leads back outside through more ducting. will this work? i have just recently been introduced to cooling by means of ice(for ambient temps) and was just wandering if this process would work for small scale grows. if you do not think this wil work or you have other ideas for it, let me know.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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RoadhouseToker said:
i was thinking about using ice to chill my grow tent and this is what i have came up with so far. i plan on making a heavily insulated box so that i can keep the ice as cold as possible to help counteract the melting. ducting that brings fresh air in from outside will be connected to the box and the air will run over the ice block and out the other side. it will then travel through more ducting and into my grow tent. the air in the tent will be pulled out by a 240 cfm inline fan that leads back outside through more ducting. will this work? i have just recently been introduced to cooling by means of ice(for ambient temps) and was just wandering if this process would work for small scale grows. if you do not think this wil work or you have other ideas for it, let me know.
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I'm pretty sure it won't work. The ice will not have enough time to cool the ambient air around it before you bring it into the tent.
 
cowell

cowell

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I would wonder if passing over such a small quantity of ice so quickly, whether it would have enough exposure to your cooler box to do much of anything.
If you are interested in alternative cooling, check into using chillers. They are kinda costly, but apparently work cat's ass. In a few grows I'll be sealing my room and running an ice box.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/334473-c-vs-icebox-water-chiller.html

I know I have seen a few DIY chiller set ups as well using an old radiator and some fans and shit... didn't really look to long at it, in hindsight, likely should have and I could offer some more help.
 
KI11TH3W3AK

KI11TH3W3AK

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i had a heat problem go get a vicks "cool" are vaporizer they run like $20 and u have to fill them every fing night but they raise ur humidity and drop ur temp lol im running 2! also freeze water bottles and put them in there
 
missnu

missnu

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Hmmmm...^^^ that wouldn't be a bad idea....except I love the fact that my area is dry like the desert...lol
 
KI11TH3W3AK

KI11TH3W3AK

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i live in a desert lol literally i had plants about to die from to low of humidity 2 birds with one stone
 
RoadhouseToker

RoadhouseToker

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cowell said:
I would wonder if passing over such a small quantity of ice so quickly, whether it would have enough exposure to your cooler box to do much of anything.If you are interested in alternative cooling, check into using chillers. They are kinda costly, but apparently work cat's ass. In a few grows I'll be sealing my room and running an ice box.https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/334473-c-vs-icebox-water-chiller.htmlI know I have seen a few DIY chiller set ups as well using an old radiator and some fans and shit... didn't really look to long at it, in hindsight, likely should have and I could offer some more help.
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what if i would put more than one ice box in the intake line?
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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RoadhouseToker said:
but wouldn't it eventually get cooler as the ice melts? the cool air has to go somewhere doesn't it?
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Not gonna work because when you are pulling air into the room you are going to be passing it through the box too quickly for it to make a difference in the temperature. This is why all water cooled equipment as well as a/c units contain a diffuser. Check out the thread in my signature. I actually have been using water cooled equipment for a long time. I used to use Ice Boxes till my room got too big for them and I switched to water cooled air handlers.
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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cowell said:
I would wonder if passing over such a small quantity of ice so quickly, whether it would have enough exposure to your cooler box to do much of anything.
If you are interested in alternative cooling, check into using chillers. They are kinda costly, but apparently work cat's ass. In a few grows I'll be sealing my room and running an ice box.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/334473-c-vs-icebox-water-chiller.html

I know I have seen a few DIY chiller set ups as well using an old radiator and some fans and shit... didn't really look to long at it, in hindsight, likely should have and I could offer some more help.
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Make sure you size your chiller correctly and have adequate Ice Boxes in your room. You'll need 1 for every 1000w light plus additional ones to actually cool the room if you plan on getting rid of your a/c.
 
cowell

cowell

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phillipchristian said:
Make sure you size your chiller correctly and have adequate Ice Boxes in your room. You'll need 1 for every 1000w light plus additional ones to actually cool the room if you plan on getting rid of your a/c.
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REALLY?? ahh shit.. I was going to save up the grand and grab a set up.. but if I have to grab 2 ice boxes... may be a few grows down the road... that's kinda crappy.
Can you check out my grow, the room it's in is like 16x10X10. I have 2000 watts set up in a vertical grow. Not running AC at all right now, but if I didn't vent I'd be screwed. I want to add C02, so I gotta seal it up. So bascially - I'll need 3 ice boxes? Would you mind helping me size it right? Can't find anything about it on the internet to determine needs, and I'm just starting to look into water cooling. Thanks..

As far as the question about my thoughts on multiple coolers filled with ice, I still think the airflow would be too fast to make much difference. Try it out on a small scale, and see if the air temp is any lower..
 
phillipchristian

phillipchristian

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cowell said:
REALLY?? ahh shit.. I was going to save up the grand and grab a set up.. but if I have to grab 2 ice boxes... may be a few grows down the road... that's kinda crappy.
Can you check out my grow, the room it's in is like 16x10X10. I have 2000 watts set up in a vertical grow. Not running AC at all right now, but if I didn't vent I'd be screwed. I want to add C02, so I gotta seal it up. So bascially - I'll need 3 ice boxes? Would you mind helping me size it right? Can't find anything about it on the internet to determine needs, and I'm just starting to look into water cooling. Thanks..

As far as the question about my thoughts on multiple coolers filled with ice, I still think the airflow would be too fast to make much difference. Try it out on a small scale, and see if the air temp is any lower..
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Be glad to help. I have a thread in my signature with a ton of info. If you run your room without a/c right now then you won't need it in the future unless you want to seal it. Then I would say you would need at least 1 Ice Box to cool the ambient air. 16x10 is rather large so maybe 2 of them. To be on the safe side and to be efficient I would say a 1hp chiller and 3 Ice Box. If you want to chill your reservoir then you can get a Worth Coil to place in your reservoir and you can also get a water cooled Co2 generator. You can fit those on the 1hp chiller no problem though. You'd need a good cast iron centrifugal pump, a 30-50 gallon chiller reservoir, tubing and pvc manifolds.
 
cowell

cowell

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I'll check out your thread to start learning a bit about it before I launch into any further questions - thank you, sorry for the brief thread jack...
 
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