I have never heard a decent argument for any god of any type.

I'm well aware of what they are, but you are making things out to be "VERIFIED PROOF OF ALIENS!!!!"

And it fucking isn't. At all.

We are well aware that a great many of these radio burst are in fact caused by microwaves, many of which come from explosions and ejections throughout the universe.

To hear you and your article tell it, it's proof of aliens trying to communicate with us.

First off, they don't have the signal, which renders the ENTIRE article moot.

On top of that there's the fact that of the radio burst capture, most are attributed to verified natural occurrences. That there are some not yet attributed means nothing. It's a VERY big universe. You're like that idiot on the History channel that looks at a piece of burnt toast and yells "ALIENS!" when fact is it's just burnt toast.

So, again, it's YOU that miss the point.

TacoMac said:

I'm well aware of what they are, but you are making things out to be "VERIFIED PROOF OF ALIENS!!!!"

And it fucking isn't. At all.

We are well aware that a great many of these radio burst are in fact caused by microwaves, many of which come from explosions and ejections throughout the universe.

To hear you and your article tell it, it's proof of aliens trying to communicate with us.

First off, they don't have the signal, which renders the ENTIRE article moot.

On top of that there's the fact that of the radio burst capture, most are attributed to verified natural occurrences. That there are some not yet attributed means nothing. It's a VERY big universe. You're like that idiot on the History channel that looks at a piece of burnt toast and yells "ALIENS!" when fact is it's just burnt toast.

So, again, it's YOU that miss the point.

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I'm not saying it's proof positive, but even the best scientific minds can't rule out they're not of extra terrestrial origin. They're the best proof we have a possibility such exists. Much better than the latest Globe Magazine of how someone's mom was abducted by an alien.

Several scientists like Michio Kaku even say they're our best bet for proving if extra terrestrial life is possible.

"Despite the detection of dozens of events since 2007, scientists are still not sure what causes them – though theories range from exploding stars, black holes, and magnetars to alien civilizations."

https://phys.org/news/2018-08-canadian-radio-telescope-fast.html

TacoMac said:

For many, it's not so much a personal revelation as it is simple common sense questioning.

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I disagree, but lets see.

Why us? Why not one of the other billions of creatures on the planet?

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Because we evolved in a way that gave us bigger brains that are capable of higher thought than other animals.

Why are we the only species that's ever existed that can be inherently evil?

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Well, we're the only species to have demonstrated an extremely complex language so, we're the only species capable of processing the concept of "evil", which doesn't exist as a physical thing; only an abstract concept as defined by religion for the most part. There are certainly vicious animals that do terrible, needless violence... like chimps ripping the dicks off their rivals, or cats seemingly torturing their prey.

Why are we the only species on earth that ever evolved to a point of advanced intelligence?

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Biological pressures, there are chimps that are now in "the stone age".... we were just the first ones to get here. There is nothing that has demonstrated that other species will not also reach our level.

One could ask the same questions of anything else and come to a conclusion. For instance:

Why is the vault open?
Why is all of the money gone?
Why are the security guard and tellers all shot dead?

In pondering those simple observations one can reach the conclusion that the bank was in fact robbed. It's not a "personal revelation" that can't be proven, but a series of questions that point to a foregone conclusion.

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If solving the question of whether or not god exists was as simple as determining a bank was robbed, there wouldn't be so many atheists. You are oversimplifying to the point of absurdity.

The problem with faith, however, is how it is defined.

Many have asked those same three basic questions and come up with a myriad of different explanations (deity wise) to answer them.

What makes the most sense though is relatively common - we humans are special. We're the only example of anything approaching us in the known universe.To write that off to a galactic accident is a cop out for those who lack a definitive answer.

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Argument from incredulity. Just because we lack the technical knowledge right now to find other examples of life doesn't mean they aren't there. There is no reason to believe we are "special" with regards to the cosmos.

God is the idea that we're not an accident or some level of blind luck. Whatever name you give it, the idea has merit in the grand scheme of things. At the very least, it has just as much merit as someone saying it's all just dumb luck.

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Accident or blind luck? Both of those concepts presuppose a creator. Accidents are things that weren't meant to be, implying there was a reason or purpose for something being made. Luck is a made-up supernatural concept to explain coincidence, or it implies that something is granting favor to the recipient of the luck.

How about we exist because it's the only thing that could have happened based on the causal chain of events that started when the singularity started expanding?

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Yeah?

This sounds like quite an easy question for someone who has a philosophy degree.

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Where did I ask a question? I made a statement.

Didn't they teach you about the tetra lemma?

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Religion is a tiny fraction on philosophy. So, no I didn't study Hinduism most of what I studied was either Greek or modern.

Greek philosophers who viewed these were known as: substantialism(sat), subjectivism(asat), holism(sat & asat), and instrumentalism not the case for sat and sat, which rejects all three, endless equivocators(avidya, anirvacaniya, mithya).

As religious parable.

A congregation of devotees to Rama came before the Buddha and asked, "I try to believe with all my heart in Rama, yet I still have a bit of doubt, have I been wasting my life? Is there God?" To which the Buddha declared, "No." And they all rejoiced, and partied.

A congregation of Carvakas came before the Buddha, "I whole heartedly believe in no God what so ever, but I have a bit of doubt. What if there is a God, will I be left behind?" To which the Buddha declared, "Yes," and in that instant they all became believers, renouncing their previous disbelief.

A man comes before Buddha, "Buddha, in the past people prayed to God, and he answered them back. But in this degenerate age, he listens to none. Did he once exists, and is now dead?" To which the Buddha answered in silence, only smiling. In that instant the man became enlightened.

A very confused man came to the Buddha, asking "Buddha, I pray and pray, but God doesn't answer me.Yet others get answers and live a wonderful life. Does God only not exist for me, but for others? What should I do?" To which the Buddha remained silent. Several years passed, and the man thanked the Buddha, for without him he would'nt have became enlightened.

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Wow, enlightening.

So, still no good argument for the existence of god then?

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Which does not equate to "ADVANCED intelligence". It's not even in the same ballpark. Hell, it's not even the same sport.

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What other creature has harnessed fire, sparked flint, chipped stone, hardened wood with heat. Not advanced by 2018 standards but pretty ADVANCED none the less. The crux is it shows the ability to achieve higher level thinking.