Human Rights vs Civil Rights Cultivates into National Security Complications

DNAprotection said:

"Gravity doesn't exist", and the world is flat. Ok idiot,
I don't care wtf words you use, the fact remains that there are prevailing realities of nature that exist with or without human constructs. You are clearly so obsessed with your lack of understanding that maybe it's just that words don't mean anything to you now.

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Fogdog said:

You don't know what you are talking about. Just like when you talked about gravity.

"Reproduce or perish", for example. Are you talking about people? If you are, then you don't account for the examples shown by psychologists and anthropologists where people who don't have children help those who do to successfully raise the next generation. The children benefit and society benefits because the next generation thrives. So, how useful is that "law" you cited?

Also, Rob Roy has it completely wrong when he says that children can give consent to have sex with an adult even below the age of 14. The unequal relationship often produces children who become adults that fail to thrive in later life. So don't quote Rob to me. He's nuts and probably pedo.

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DNAprotection said:

Fartdog,
Rob Roy's offering was perfectly appropriate, a world without procreation will eventually be devoid of life as we know it.
The belligerent idiocy you offered in response, only served to bolster Rob Roy's valid observation.
All critters exhibit different behaviors based on necessity and how necessity has driven a species evolution.
All true necessity is born from "natural law".

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Fogdog said:

I don't read Rob's posts.

Too funny this:

All critters exhibit different behaviors based on necessity and how necessity has driven a species evolution.
All true necessity is born from "natural law".

So, "natural law" is whatever "is necessary"? How is that even useful or explains anything? It's convenient to somebody who just makes shit up and doesn't want to admit it.

Clearly you are just making shit up and don't have a clue. Here's the introduction to the idea from wikipedia:

Natural law
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Thomas Aquinas, a Catholic philosopher of the Middle Ages, revived and developed the concept of natural law from ancient Greek philosophy
Natural law (Latin: ius naturale, lex naturalis) is a philosophy asserting that certain rights are inherent by virtue of human nature, endowed by nature—traditionally by God or a transcendent source—and that these can be understood universally through human reason. As determined by nature, the law of nature is implied to be objective and universal;[1] it exists independently of human understanding, and of the positive law of a given state, political order, legislature or society at large.

Historically, natural law refers to the use of reason to analyze human nature to deduce binding rules of moral behavior from nature's or God's creation of reality and mankind. The concept of natural law was documented in ancient Greek philosophy, including Aristotle,[2] and was referred to in Roman philosophy by Cicero. References to natural law are also found in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible, later expounded upon in the Middle Ages by Christian philosophers such as Albert the Great and Thomas Aquinas. The School of Salamanca made notable contributions during the Renaissance. Modern natural law theories were greatly developed in the Age of Enlightenment, combining inspiration from Roman law with philosophies like social contract theory. Key proponents were Alberico Gentili, Francisco Suárez, Richard Hooker, Thomas Hobbes, Hugo Grotius, Samuel von Pufendorf, Matthew Hale, John Locke, Francis Hutcheson, Jean Jacques Burlamaqui, Emmerich de Vattel, Cesare Beccaria and Francesco Mario Pagano. It was used to challenge the divine right of kings, and became an alternative justification for the establishment of a social contract, positive law, and government—and thus legal rights—in the form of classical republicanism. Conversely, the concept of natural rights is used by others to challenge the legitimacy of all such establishments.

Contemporarily, the concept of natural law is closely related to the concept of natural rights. Indeed, many philosophers, jurists and scholars use natural law synonymously with natural rights (Latin: ius naturale), or natural justice.[3]while others distinguish between natural law and natural right.[1]

Because of the intersection between natural law and natural rights, natural law has been claimed or attributed as a key component in the United States Declaration of Independence (1776), the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (1789) of France, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (194 of the United Nations General Assembly, as well as the European Convention on Human Rights (1953) of the European Union.

It's a religious philosophy. Looked at that way, I now understand why you and I aren't connecting in our discussion. I'm atheist and your ooga booga religious philosophy is just another form of religious made up shit.

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Rob Roy said:

That was a pretty good use of a hit and run innuendo. Let's see how long you stick around to defend your claim.

You're saying that a situation which makes you (and me) uncomfortable also makes it impossible ? How does that work? Could you explain?

Also,because I accept the possibility of something, doesn't mean I endorse the activity or as you allude to, participate in the activity. That's sort of intellectual sloth on your part, since I give you the benefit of the doubt to know the difference, but I could be wrong, you may just be an idiot.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

or maybe you ARE rob....i can't imagine there's another fucknut dumbass out there that spews the same flavor stupidity as rob....on the same forum....then actually praises rob....i smell a sock with a hole in the toe...

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

or maybe you ARE rob....i can't imagine there's another fucknut dumbass out there that spews the same flavor stupidity as rob....on the same forum....then actually praises rob....i smell a sock with a hole in the toe...

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Fogdog said:

I just figured I'd re-post this for a good laugh at the moron who doesn't understand why this is so funny.

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ttystikk said:

Even an idiot can see why you aren't getting laid...

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DNAprotection said:

Corndog,
You won't ever catsup because you haven't mustard up into your bun any natural condiment sense.
Truly I do not relish in your lack of basic condiments, but I feel I owe it to the natural world to leave you in the grease a while longer as the carcinogens might at least render your mayo to be non fertile.

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Fogdog said:

Tell me again about how I'm an idiot because I know more than you do.

That's so funny.

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DNAprotection said:

Waddog,
I would, but the old lady does it well...

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ttystikk said:

Now you understand why I gave up on them. Nothing can penetrate the comfy little bubbles of their biases.

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Fogdog said:

Tell me again about how I'm an idiot because I know more than you do.

That's so funny.

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Unclebaldrick said:

lol. You have got to be kidding.

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Fogdog said:

So, this Natural law thing you made up. Its real, just like gravity.

LOL

I can't help it. It's mean of me to laugh at retards but I do.

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DNAprotection said:

Frauddog,
Seriously I didn't mean to disturb the underside of your man made fur so badly, and I take no joy in witnessing you so desperately trying to cling to the illusion of dignity, but the gravity of this rabbit hole is of your own making.
Your so called "education" is long on research, yet far short on understanding.
The fraudulent education, void of true substance, ultimately manifests into insecurity.
Insecurity has you returning to this thread over and over attempting to justify the idiotic conclusions you have pledged your life to.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

so did whatever hoochie you had hanging around take off when she found out how full of shit you are? that seems to be when you show up here and try to start shit.
no one is really interested in your pseudo progressive socialist shit.
you're the prime example of people being blinded by their own bias.
you're the one who keeps trying to advance totally doomed agendas...
you're the one who keeps popping in with ridiculous bullshit and then berating everyone when they don't tell you the ridiculous shit is actually a brilliant strategy...you're the one who keeps making points that are easy to discredit...keeps making statements about articles that actually have nothing to do with the articles..who keeps misquoting people...who keeps misrepresenting the conclusions of articles you post.
perhaps if you read more than headlines, you might realize some of the articles don't say what you think they do?

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DNAprotection said:

Frauddog,
Seriously I didn't mean to disturb the underside of your man made fur so badly, and I take no joy in witnessing you so desperately trying to cling to the illusion of dignity, but the gravity of this rabbit hole is of your own making.
Your so called "education" is long on research, yet far short on understanding.
The fraudulent education, void of true substance, ultimately manifests into insecurity.
Insecurity has you returning to this thread over and over attempting to justify the idiotic conclusions you have pledged your life to.

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ttystikk said:

Speak for yourself. Blowhard opinion covering badly for a lack of research.

Smoke another bowl, calm down and start finding corroborating sources.

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