How To Make It In The Marijuana Business From Nothing

Anonymouse

Active Member
Hey Im not preaching don't sell, duh how would all of get weed?

I am going preach, don't get a medical card and use that a means to grow for profit. Not many do, but it has happened and that sucks ass for all medical users. Besides it's pretty stupid anyway, give them your name/address and then start breaking the law hehe.

And no one sells dope to survive, they sell it for money. There's a difference, ask anyone locked up for it :)
 

crystalman

Active Member
dude people have been selling since the beggining of time , for real bro and med paitents sell to other patients and to clubs not a big deal i guess you never broke the law though
 

guy incognito

Well-Known Member
Hey Im not preaching don't sell, duh how would all of get weed?

I am going preach, don't get a medical card and use that a means to grow for profit. Not many do, but it has happened and that sucks ass for all medical users. Besides it's pretty stupid anyway, give them your name/address and then start breaking the law hehe.

And no one sells dope to survive, they sell it for money. There's a difference, ask anyone locked up for it :)
How does that suck ass for medical users? How does it even effect them at all? If anything isn't it good that you would be adding good medicine supply?
 

michojay

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Hey Im not preaching don't sell, duh how would all of get weed?

I am going preach, don't get a medical card and use that a means to grow for profit. Not many do, but it has happened and that sucks ass for all medical users. Besides it's pretty stupid anyway, give them your name/address and then start breaking the law hehe.

And no one sells dope to survive, they sell it for money. There's a difference, ask anyone locked up for it :)
that's dumbest shit I've ever heard!! More people have there cards for bullshit reasons that don't even truely exist than people that actually have legit reasons for them everyone just wants to grow and not have to worry about getting busted so climb down off that high horse buddy and open up your eye's!! I know a guy that got a card for asthma. Yeah thats right ASTHMA the only time he ever had an asthma attack was from smoking go figure!
 

smokinguns

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Hey Master. I'm all in and a student. Iv'e got 1200 watts total, the space and the time. Iv'e done soil, doing outside now, done dwc. Not done any drip feed or hydro tables yet. I need to produce at least 500 grams monthly or more inside. Two lbs of cronic every two months for 50-75 bucks. Teach me. I'm all ears.
 
Alright thanks guys, Sorry for pause in posting..

Alright I tend to forget words when I write so bare with me please..

I do not condone THAT ANYBODY SELLS MARIJUANA IN ANY FORM OR FASHION!!!!

now with that being said..

Alright some smokin music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_e6BUUgXE8

I have friends who grow bud in rooms that look like hospitals white poly plastic wall and floors, flood tables, a maze of air ducting fans and ballast in the attic the whole sha bang..

Now thats all good but everybody can step in the game like that. I know I couldn't when I first started and still can't.. But do I still pull pounds? yes sir!!

The only light I paid for was my 600 watt ballast which uncle sam paid for really remember that stimulus check we got...hehe

But other then that every thing was given to.. Now check it out, Electricians have jobs to replace warehouse and stores lights well alot of these light still work they want them replaced. Why I don't know. But Call some local electricians and ask them if they any old or extra junk ballast and leave them your number so they can reach you when get a job.. So many of these get scrape everyday.. To them its scrape metal to use it's a gold mine..

Now they are not in the greatest condition when get them, But all you have to do is rewire them I will take some pictures tonight to show ya'll...

I use 1 600 watt hps and 1 400 hps and 2 400 MH's other then the 6'er the rest were free!!!

Alright next you need pots.. Pots can be expensive, dont buy them at wal mart or the dollar store..

I have found big ass 18 tupperware totes are the best to grow in. Now on this site you will see alot people use the dwc systems fuck that.. I promise I grew as large as plants as I do now there is no way in hell it would the plants weight..

So I am saying fuck the dwc why grow 10 small plants when you can just grow one gian that will yeild more anyways..

Alright number one rule of thumb is big pots = big plants and I don't give a fuck what anybody say because thats right..

DO NOT grow in pots less 5 gallons

A wider pot will make bushier plants..

Look at tree in the wild pine trees roots grow straight down and they are tall ass trees, but oak trees roots grow out to the side so they are bushier..

Thats just the way it works...
 
INDOORS....

so we got the lighting down and the pot size. Now if your following me should still have all that hard earned money in your pockets...

Now here is where you must spend money.. You need a good soil-less mix..

I suggest using coco.. here is a thread I started on here for anybody who does not know what coco is

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/163510-coco-growers-unite.html <----------just click it

alright there are all kinds of Coco you can buy and say each are better then the next, and it maybe true but I am calling bullshit..

I use to work at soil plant named fafard all coco come from the same place Sir Lanka it's from coconut shellings blah blah

The cheapest and best coco I found is Botanicare's Coco bales they cost 15 bucks each you'll need two of them and you'll need to buy a kiddie pool so you can mix all the shit in...

Here is soil-less mix enough to fill 20 5 gallon buckets.. 2 bales of coco flushed with RO h20, 1-3.8 cubic foot bag perilite and 1-3.8 cubic foot bag verimicultlite..

warning you'll have a shit load of dirt!!!

but enough to make some money..

Now this mix can be subbed in any way you like I have yet to find a bad mix or one that just didn't grow good.. you can use just perlite and vermicultlite if you want or which ever way.. This is just a cheap mix I found..
it cost about $70 to make but good enough to fill 20 or 5 gallon pots..


Oh yeah its reusable!!!!
 
come on dudes this site is to help us who dont know how, to learn how, lets not argue, who cares who is legit or not? Medical not medical we all have our reasons, pain, not pain, getting high, whatever thats noones buz, but their own, so on to the reason! I have plants not many I'm starting out but one plant is awsome well to me anyway one was given to me to baby it cuz he got spider mites and the cure close to killed them anyway as soon as I figure how to a pic on I will took pics but cant figure out how to get on site. My new clone I tranplanted it was alittle too big for the dixie cup it was in but its leaves curled in kind of like rolled in, will it go away now that I have it in a big pot lights and taking care of it or did they wait too long on their clones? just figured out how so after work will send pic
 

Klo$etBreeder

Well-Known Member
im following this just because you work the way I do lol...I was pulling a 3/4lb off of 4 small plants in a closet (hence the screen name) with a T5 and an old shop light someone threw out ost me 20 bucks for new ballast for the flouro's...and I was in my rents house and they had no idea
 
Indoors.....

Ok well if your going to be using a soil-less mix you want a good nute program.. I've tried many different brands and I use way to many different kind...

here is my nute army and this isn't everything..




But fuck all that over priced BS...

Plain and simple your going to kill the fucker to smoke why spend so much money on nutes?

For veg 18 to 24 hour light cycle try using Alaska Fish emulsion it's 5-1-1 its all you need!! you can buy the shit (it's really shit too) at Home depot for 7 bucks.. But nurseries carry it too I suggest shopping at local nurseries anyways..

Myself and many experts will agree that Fish emulsion and sea weed extract is the best nute program any plant..

Now for flower..

12 hour light cycle..

Alaska also makes flower nute called More bloom or some shit like that it is also cheap about 7 bucks..

But its a little but then just that..

Yes you want to a buy PPM meter and PH meter, just so you burn the shit out of your plants..

mine cost like 30 dollars each..

ok this gets a little harder to explain the PPM is part per million in the total dissolved salt content which is how much nutes are in the water..

Tap water sucks balls don't use it ppm is like 300 to 400.. Yes you can use it but you can use as much nutes... But why?

well ok the first week of seedling you want almost no food at all so that means 25 to 50 ppm water... then the second week 100 3rd 200 as the plant matures you can raise it up to 600 ppm while still in veg but you don't want to go any higher then that...

I keep my moms fed between 500 to 600

Now in flower it gradually goes up to oh around 1350 would be the highest Id go around week 6 to 7 for flower then gradually go back down to 600 to 700 then flush if you growing a 55 to 65 dayer strain..

I suggest find a feeding chart don't listen to me because you not going to get it over night...

ok PH for soil or soil-less it needs to be at 6.2 to 6.8 after you added the nutes I suggest 6.5 and you want to test the run-off (you know the shit that comes out of the bottom after you water) You want your run-off to be the same as the water going in yes PPM will raise and you want to check that too keep it in moderation..

Now for hydro you want it 5.8 to 6.0 but if you growing dro you should already know this or your over head..
 
Ok back on nutes

Ok ther is alot of good stuff out there but you really don't need it all let me break it down as fast as possible..

N-P-K

A ideal veg nute should be somewhere along these lines

5-1-1

7-2-1

9-4-2

but not

10-20-10

0-50-30

5-10-8

They come in different ranges the N stand nitrogen it's what makes the plant green..

anything that is really high is probably not organic.. I'd like to say I am organic farmer but really I am not but very close and thats good enough for me now..

now in flower

the first 2 weeks you want wing it off the nitrogen thats why the veg nutes and flower nutes..

Marijuana doesn't like alot of nitrogen in flower so keep that in mine or you might get leaf burn..

ok any product say enzymes what it is a beneficial bacterius which breaks down old root mass into food for the plant and helps the plant absorb nutes better which is a good choice to buy..do you need it no but it's worth it and really good if you want to re-use coco..

Now there is this stuff called Mycorrhizal fungi which Is a damn good buy plants need fungi and bacti to live just like us humans.. when you buy a three part nute program the 1st is grow the 2nd micro and 3rd is bloom the mirco plays the role of the fungi and bacti, and which these can only be in organic form since they are (living)

Now theres alot of debate on fungi and bacti just trust me its good stuff a cheap route you can take is a product called plant success there are two forms one is souble and the other you just mix with the soil.. it doesn't matter which one you want to use..

Molassess comes in many forms you buy it at store or you can buy horticultural molassess Im not to sure which is better I've used both.. but when your on a budget you don't want 30 dollar bottle from Humbolt nutes that I use..hehe
And I've grown with it and without it I can not tell a difference..

Now ther are all kinds of shit there sticking agents for foliar feeding but why? you don't even have to folair feed..

Dutch masters makes some shit that they claim makes your lights stronger because it magnifies the light blah balh bullshit..

there are boosters that say they add HUGE FLOWERS do you need them for huge flowers? fuck no thats in plants genetics..

Oh yeah my favorite Is the flush solutions they claim it flushs the plants out better...what the fuck does that mean?

or the sweetners once again bullshit! If your plants do not have a pineapple smell or taste in their phenotypes believe me your not going to get out of a bottle of nutes..

A good cheap nute is also CNS17 shit is it the best? No but it's complete and it's cheap!!

there are so many sell gimicks out there but don't buy into all the BS unless you have the money to fuck off...

of course you'll want to buy Ph up and down and to lower PPM's just add more water to raise them add more nutes..
 
Indoors...

The most important thing indoors ...

1. light

2. a good soil

3. big ass pots

4. air flow

5. light proof room

6. oh yeah water...

with just those alone you can grow bad ass pot..

Ok with the light more is better..

I started of using fucking shop lights 2 bulb 4 foot long bulbs for a while that all I had about 4 of them at 42 watts each

and you know what I grew dank with them, because the are not hot. the plants can touch the bulbs and not get burned, I still use them as of today for my moms here is pic..



Look nice healthy plants with out HID lights you can grow them start to finish under those alone, will you pull pounds? probably not. But if you had enough yeah it very possible.. Hey and guess how much they cost 12 bucks for the bulbs and everything..

And you'll need to buy a timer don't buy a cheap 5 dollar timer spend 10 and get the half ass one...

Ok if you grow 10 plants under 10,000 watts your a baller and you going to pull 10 or more pounds if you know what your doing, I know about a guy who ran a RDWC system with 10 plants and 10,000 watts and pulled 42 pounds in 6 weeks, sound like bullshit right but it's possible. Just think 300,000 in 6 weeks thats 1,200,000 a year.. now thats the shit im talking about..

but if you 4 plants under 1200 watts you'll have a very nice yield a rule of thumb is a good grower should pull a gram per watt... so if you want 896 grams of bud every two months you'll need at least 1000 watts just to be safe..

Big plants yield big! small plant yield small. yes sometimes the barrier is broken but not often.. by law you want less plants, under 99, to avoid being bubba's fresh piece of stanky leg for the next 30 years.. Im just joking I don't even know what the fuck the stanky leg other then a bad song...

I grow more weed from 6 large plants then 100 sea of green plants...
 
Ok, airflow

The reason airflow is so important is because you need a good growing enviroment you want to keep the temps between 65 to 80. with 70 being my fav but everybody is different..

The easiest way to do this is to come out of the closet and use a whole room or fuck it you living room.. the reason if you got 1000 watter in closet is the same as having a 1000 watt heater in there..

There is more co2 in wide open room then in a small space..

For 1800 watts all I need to my girls cool is a 8000 btu window unit and two fans, and my lights stay about a 1 foot above the plants. And room temps are at 70 all day and outside temps are in mid 90's. but one of my secrets is side lighting.. Most people just hang the lights above but plants always grow toward the light. So if your growing tree's the lights above won't reach and all that shit on the bottom dies.. Not if you use side lighting ...


Ok guys my fucking fingers hurt from typing so I will follow up tomorrow, I am going fuck off it's friday no reason to stuck in front of a computer....


dueces
 
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