How long for seeds to a trout dirt

Ok I’ve never had such a hard time popping seeds as recently. Tried the water glass method that has always worked until now and zip. So I put some 4 days ago in wet peat pellets in a humidity dome on a seed heat mat but nothing has popped. How long do they generally take to pop in dirt?

BodegaBud said:

Ok I’ve never had such a hard time popping seeds as recently. Tried the water glass method that has always worked until now and zip. So I put some 4 days ago in wet peat pellets in a humidity dome on a seed heat mat but nothing has popped. How long do they generally take to pop in dirt?

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About a good 7 days or so..
Sometimes more.
Just keep the pellets moist & not to hot..

Wet Viva towel in a ziplock and never fails. Most have tails in 24-48 hours. Make sure they stay warm. Mine go on top of a tent. Settled on this 10 years ago.

hillbill said:

Wet Viva towel in a ziplock and never fails. Most have tails in 24-48 hours. Make sure they stay warm. Mine go on top of a tent. Settled on this 10 years ago.

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I was having 100% success rate with dropping in shot glass of water for a couple days until recently. My guess is the temp in the house is too low and I wasted 3 different strains trying to get them to pop this way. Very disapointing. A couple years back I tried the towel method that you described and had poor success with it and it was about the same time of year as now. This leads me to believe the temp was too low. I tried putting on top of fridge to get more heat but I have a different fridge that doesn’t get warm like the old one did.

Either drowning the seeds with too much water in the ziplock or they weren't warm enough.

I never use seeds for trout

hillbill said:

Wet Viva towel in a ziplock and never fails. Most have tails in 24-48 hours. Make sure they stay warm. Mine go on top of a tent. Settled on this 10 years ago.

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gotta agree, i do paper towel inside a tubberware on top of my pc and have seen cracked beans in under 15hrs or so. Havent had a failed seedling in months.

A couple days in water seems like overkill. Eight hours or overnight should be more than adequate if using that method.

I have a spout! Finally! Just one but it’s a start. And if it’s a female I can clone the shit out of her! PCK baby!!!

BodegaBud said:

I have a spout! Finally! Just one but it’s a start. And if it’s a female I can clone the shit out of her! PCK baby!!!

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PCK as in Pakistani Chitral Kush?

Last resort: rough up the seed shell with sandpaper or a small emery board....if that fails? flush'em

Fastest germed seeds on this hill come from Greenpoint and Bodhi. 48 hours in a paper towel will have seeds sprouting through the towel. Both almost 100% forever.

hillbill said:

Wet Viva towel in a ziplock and never fails. Most have tails in 24-48 hours. Make sure they stay warm. Mine go on top of a tent. Settled on this 10 years ago.

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Same way I do it. Soak a paper towel with warm water, wring it out, fold in half, place 2-4 seeds on folded paper towel, roll up paper towel and seal in zip lock bag.

I then wrap all of the zip lock bags in a black tea towel, then put it on the hearth of my gas fireplace (main source of heat), or in the cupboard above my fridge.

I check them two days later. Most seeds have popped by then. If not, I give them one more day.

I know many people do it but I don't understand the use of paper towels. And to this date nobody has given a decent answer as to why you would use a damp paper towel over damp soil or grow plug, etc... Moist soil is just as good of an incubator as a damp paper towel. It also gives the seedling a head start in the soil and eliminates the chance of damaging the root when you plant directly into the soil. Why take the extra step of paper towels, ziploc baggies, etc... ?

xtsho said:

I know many people do it but I don't understand the use of paper towels. And to this date nobody has given a decent answer as to why you would use a damp paper towel over damp soil or grow plug, etc... Moist soil is just as good of an incubator as a damp paper towel. It also gives the seedling a head start in the soil and eliminates the chance of damaging the root when you plant directly into the soil. Why take the extra step of paper towels, ziploc baggies, etc... ?

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Sounds like your homes H2O mat have an unbalanced ph level? If your seeds aren't showing any growth within 3-5 days those are just bunk genetics.

hillbill said:

I never use seeds for trout

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Salmon seeds have worked well for trout in my experience. Then again so has Velveeta cheese.

xtsho said:

I know many people do it but I don't understand the use of paper towels. And to this date nobody has given a decent answer as to why you would use a damp paper towel over damp soil or grow plug, etc... Moist soil is just as good of an incubator as a damp paper towel. It also gives the seedling a head start in the soil and eliminates the chance of damaging the root when you plant directly into the soil. Why take the extra step of paper towels, ziploc baggies, etc... ?

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I think along the same lines. Plus handling young seedlings demonstrates an increased risk in damping off from exposure to the pathogens on our hands.

Put them in Jiffy Pellets, soil, coco whatever and leave them be until they hatch, less is truly more.

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Why take the extra step of paper towels, ziploc baggies, etc... ?

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The excruciating suspense of not knowing if the seed(s) has actually "popped" is too painful for most I imagine.

hillbill said:

Fastest germed seeds on this hill come from Greenpoint and Bodhi. 48 hours in a paper towel will have seeds sprouting through the towel. Both almost 100% forever.

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seedsman White Widow germed this year for me in less then 24 hours, currently my fastest.