How does datura kill you?

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Does anybody know how exactly the alkaloids from datura would kill you? Does anybody have technical information on how poisoning of this plant would kill you? From what I hear you can shut down your circulatory system or cause a heart attack. I would like to know more information. Please no frivolous opinions.
 
The only thing that I could advice is to keep bumping this thread. And do not try to do any tek first. Let someone else do it. Test it. Then copy that procedure. In the end. You should have a really awesomely evil date rape drug on your hands.
Mwhahahaha!!!
Even though I do not approve of such a thing being developed.
 
As well as the danger of a user hurting themselves while in a state of delirium, there is also the toxicity of scopolamine and atropine. Both of these chemicals are poisons and have been used for many years in murders and suicides.

Atropine increases the firing of the Sinoatrial Node (SAN) and the conductivity of the Artioventricular Node (AVN) in the heart. This means that the wave of excitation that makes a users heart beat, will happen more regularly and be passed around the heart at a faster rate. This could result in cardiac arrest. In addition to this it opposes information sent along the Vagus nerve, which conveys information about the state of the viscera (organs such as the heart and others lower in the abdomen). This means there is danger of damage to these organs.

Because of the unknown quantity of tropane alkaloids in each Datura plant, a quantity for overdose is going to be hard to predict. To reduce chance of overdose start very small and work your way up to larger doses. Remember if using another plant the dosage will be different from last time. Effects for most people will begin within an hour of consumption, however it is important to remember that in 25% of the population scopolamine is absorbed by the brain slower and can take up to 13 hours.
A SITTER IS ALWAYS NEEDED!
 
So will cardiac arrest B definite at a high enough dose is that what it's saying? Thanks for the information by the way I read that already but thank you. What is it like to die from cardiac arrest? Is it uncomfortable?
 
So will cardiac arrest B definite at a high enough dose is that what it's saying? Thanks for the information by the way I read that already but thank you. What is it like to die from cardiac arrest? Is it uncomfortable?

and i'm not sure if it's a guarantee so much as saying it's just so hard to know how much of a level of the alkaloids in it that can potentially kill you, higher dosages are extremely dangerous for that reason..
i'm no scientist though, and i didn't stay at a quality inn last night, but that's what i'm getting out of it, of course i could be way off in my thinking..
 
Okay intriguing. I'd still like an explanation like a walk through of what the experience of dying would look like from a poisonous level of these alkaloids. Is a heart attack the way you die from overdose of these alkaloids for sure? Are there other ways in which people die from these alkaloids? Just trying to get a feel for this..
 
and i'm not sure if it's a guarantee so much as saying it's just so hard to know how much of a level of the alkaloids in it that can potentially kill you, higher dosages are extremely dangerous for that reason..
i'm no scientist though, and i didn't stay at a quality inn last night, but that's what i'm getting out of it, of course i could be way off in my thinking..
Oh shit i get what ur saying.. it's actually trying to say that's how you die if you take a high enough dose. I think I got it. Perfect.
 
Okay intriguing. I'd still like an explanation like a walk through of what the experience of dying would look like from a poisonous level of these alkaloids. Is a heart attack the way you die from overdose of these alkaloids for sure? Are there other ways in which people die from these alkaloids? Just trying to get a feel for this..
you are asking people to set themselves up for a lawsuit and jail time right there pal.
 
As well as the danger of a user hurting themselves while in a state of delirium, there is also the toxicity of scopolamine and atropine. Both of these chemicals are poisons and have been used for many years in murders and suicides.

Atropine increases the firing of the Sinoatrial Node (SAN) and the conductivity of the Artioventricular Node (AVN) in the heart. This means that the wave of excitation that makes a users heart beat, will happen more regularly and be passed around the heart at a faster rate. This could result in cardiac arrest. In addition to this it opposes information sent along the Vagus nerve, which conveys information about the state of the viscera (organs such as the heart and others lower in the abdomen). This means there is danger of damage to these organs.

Because of the unknown quantity of tropane alkaloids in each Datura plant, a quantity for overdose is going to be hard to predict. To reduce chance of overdose start very small and work your way up to larger doses. Remember if using another plant the dosage will be different from last time. Effects for most people will begin within an hour of consumption, however it is important to remember that in 25% of the population scopolamine is absorbed by the brain slower and can take up to 13 hours.
A SITTER IS ALWAYS NEEDED!

atropine is a common drug found in any ER/ACLS ambulance/CBRN kits(military) and scopolamine is a less common motion sickness drug in the form of a patch you put behind your ear. you can get a prescription for the scop, and the atropine shouldn't be difficult to find in the form of autoinjectors that some gulf war vets might have along with 2 pam chloride-both as nerve agent antidotes.
 
Cardiac arrest is indeed painful. Anything near that much cardiac trauma is painful. Just to let you know.

Extremely painful.

To OP, if you're thinking about killing yourself - don't. Hash it out on here if you must... find someone to connect with. Anyone. In person is better.
 
cardiac arrest is extremely painful, hence why they sedate and make unconscious lethal injection death row peeps before they inject them with straight potassium chloride and cause cardiac arrest and ultimately death.
 
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