HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2

Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 63 85.1%
  • HGL

    Votes: 11 14.9%

  • Total voters
    74
  • Poll closed .
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Kushash

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I second the request for a smoke report.

I wasn't expecting such a difference in bud appearance. I was on vacation last week and haven't seen any pics showing such a variation or were they posted.

Maybe a couple more pics of the drying buds to be smoked would be nice.

I know most expected HLG to do better in yield but I don't recall anyone predicting a difference in bag appeal or maybe I missed that part.
 

growingforfun

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Looks like Pinocchio is calling you out hybridway

https://www.ledgrowforums.com/index.php?threads/calling-out-hybridway2.119/

Dealing with HGL is never a private matter either get grassed out or have your personal conversations aired out on some forums.
If he even ever said any of that. You know how easy it is to use any other msger and talk to yourself?

I dont know if he said those things or not. Odds seem to be he woulda been outed by the larger companies who in no way need this one reviewer though.

But it's this shady person who's made outrageous claims about her lights making more claims... hmmm pattern?
 

Stephenj37826

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Looks like Pinocchio is calling you out hybridway

https://www.ledgrowforums.com/index.php?threads/calling-out-hybridway2.119/

Dealing with HGL is never a private matter either get grassed out or have your personal conversations aired out on some forums.
I am not buying it. Hybridway has never discussed how the testing would go with me. How the pictures would be taken or anything else . He has never asked for a light for free. He always offers to pay as well. We have lots of testers all over the place. I tell them all one thing. Give your honest review and opinion. I need to know these things to collect information on small nuances that actual growers like and don't like so I can make improvements in the future. You know listen to what people want lol. I kinda felt like anyone who gets tangled up with that company was not gonna have a pleasant ending.

I honestly think @hybridway2 got sucked into her hype a little just like a few others around here. It's understandable honestly. Kinda like you want to believe X politicians actually care about our needs ;)

On a brighter note we met with Samsung today and they have some new toys that aren't officially out yet that we are going to try and incorporate into some future designs. Nothing really new much on the led side. They are finally able to start concentrating more on improving the process (IE better bins) again now that a lot of the new processing plant is finished in Vietnam.
 

jarvild

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I am not buying it. Hybridway has never discussed how the testing would go with me. How the pictures would be taken or anything else . He has never asked for a light for free. He always offers to pay as well. We have lots of testers all over the place. I tell them all one thing. Give your honest review and opinion. I need to know these things to collect information on small nuances that actual growers like and don't like so I can make improvements in the future. You know listen to what people want lol. I kinda felt like anyone who gets tangled up with that company was not gonna have a pleasant ending.

I honestly think @hybridway2 got sucked into her hype a little just like a few others around here. It's understandable honestly. Kinda like you want to believe X politicians actually care about our needs ;)

On a brighter note we met with Samsung today and they have some new toys that aren't officially out yet that we are going to try and incorporate into some future designs. Nothing really new much on the led side. They are finally able to start concentrating more on improving the process (IE better bins) again now that a lot of the new processing plant is finished in Vietnam.
Hey Stephan.
Has BigPerm still been trying to get a dealers contract with you as I noticed he asked that in one of his threads?
 

growingforfun

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I am not buying it. Hybridway has never discussed how the testing would go with me. How the pictures would be taken or anything else . He has never asked for a light for free. He always offers to pay as well. We have lots of testers all over the place. I tell them all one thing. Give your honest review and opinion. I need to know these things to collect information on small nuances that actual growers like and don't like so I can make improvements in the future. You know listen to what people want lol. I kinda felt like anyone who gets tangled up with that company was not gonna have a pleasant ending.

I honestly think @hybridway2 got sucked into her hype a little just like a few others around here. It's understandable honestly. Kinda like you want to believe X politicians actually care about our needs ;)

On a brighter note we met with Samsung today and they have some new toys that aren't officially out yet that we are going to try and incorporate into some future designs. Nothing really new much on the led side. They are finally able to start concentrating more on improving the process (IE better bins) again now that a lot of the new processing plant is finished in Vietnam.
How efficient are the chips you use and do you have numbers on your new "toys"?
 

Stephenj37826

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How efficient are the chips you use and do you have numbers on your new "toys"?
2.9 umol/j at system level. We are still using LM301B and Osram Square 660 nm + SSL 624 nm. 4k base. Going to be adding in 470 nm as well in production units. Not sure about 730 nm as shade avoidance is a concern. I feel as though UV and FR and better left to supplementation currently. Maybe in the future, as costs come down we can add more bells and whistles.
 

growingforfun

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2.9 umol/j at system level. We are still using LM301B and Osram Square 660 nm + SSL 624 nm. 4k base. Going to be adding in 470 nm as well in production units. Not sure about 730 nm as shade avoidance is a concern. I feel as though UV and FR and better left to supplementation currently. Maybe in the future, as costs come down we can add more bells and whistles.
Will the current models still be offered? Expected pricing on the new units? Will the older ones be discounted?
 

hybridway2

Amare Shill
I should not respond any further.
HydroGrow (yes that is your name) has already given me a warning. Apparently I'm another
Defamanizer whom will face serious consequences if i don't shut up about my findings .
HydroGrow Posted texts out of context & without even a small portion of the truth. Oh, BTW, after swearing on her loved ones that human would never share our conversation anywhere with anyone for any reason. Then aired texts out of context & scrambled.
Bud was not teir 5 but the plant & experience with HydroGrow was. The top 6-8" was decent smoke do to genetics & grow but poor looking & unappealing in comparison. Very leafy & airy. When you can see through your Tops you know you got a problem. Did not take many pics of HydroGrow because i knew where that would lead me & held it as short as possible. Anything but a pure win posted by me was a huge risk i took. Did post total BioMass weight for HydroGrow when there was a ton of popcorn i have NEVER counted in a weigh in before.
That put her a measly 2 oz or so behind using 1/2 the umol/j, so it would appear. Before i could think of how to safely tell you guys about the lack of luster & stretchy buds HydroGrow began attacking me on their Privately purchased Safe Place to lie on a Blame Game Post or thread. Saying stuff like i chopped their plant early when the fact of the matter is that was the only true claim made by them. Finished early, stop growing & had all red hairs, cloudy & Amber trichs while HLG's was still white hairs, clear & cloudy , still growing every day. I left almost half the plant up for another couple days, making a lil more then half harvested about 5 days prior to HLG & the other almost half, the day before.
Yeah, i souped her a few times to think i was happier then i was. Was not going to pay for those RGB, EpiLed, Problematic, ProtoTypes. Did though & the first one i plugged in (in attempt to finish faster) exploded FireWorks all over my Best Plant, FuelBomb Grown under the x2, 96 Elites & Amare Pro-4 Monos. Apparently just because its laser etched into the Board that you can use 110-240V doesnt mean you can. Ooops, my fault again.
HydroGrow fails to mention that i was trying to get the XB for free because Amare/Victor challenged them & they ran like hell claiming Amare does not own enough lighting cultivation stock or whatever, they're not popular enough. So after expecting HLG to kick in for the SBS against 8yr old RGB tech that has lower efficiency then an hps bulb & a worse rep for you know what, they expected me to pay for unproven spectrum protypes with a bunch of problems. Later to find out they will be obsolete, no refurbished, no Gen2, no Gen 1 is Gen2 with lenses. No its totally different. Who knows the truth?
2.24 umol/j hu???? Yeah, MAYBE/DOUBT IT @ advertised wattage but for every claimed 140w they are running 80-100w harder then that. There is to much wrong to describe & i am not at liberty to discuss. But did make the mistake of buying them anyways with plans to share true Par #'s & facts. I can only provide info. On something in my hands, not based on a companies claims. Well, at least not that company. Also purchased before harvesting & anyone who grows knows you can't tell how a plant truly does till the material is dry, one reason why i did not say much about bud development & just shared pics. While flowering. I should've known by the internodal spacing.
Yes, i Invented, came up with, first to use as a phrase or word to describe an issue i had over the past few yrs with leds that i know of "LedDefficiency". Not to hurt anyone but to acknowledge as an issue newbs, myself included as a newb to led (have to till i nail it completely, almost there) have many times when switching from Hps to led in CoCo using their regular feeding schedules, because that was me too.
Also, i brought that up months before HydroGrow hit the scene with their wild claims of RGB EpiLeds smashing on Fluence & every & any other company.
Some say i Shilled for them but i don't see how. Only ran a SBS & asked for people to not be derogatory in my Thread. I can only imagine what it would be like to be so confused & honestly empathize with any human who's feelings are hurt. Despite all HydroGrow has said about me, costed me Thousands & has wasted rented space in my head & life for a 1/3 of a yr. Or more. I will not bash them or the owner. Words are words & facts are facts.
As a matter of one of those facts i will Do HydroGrow yet another Solid Favor after shitting all over my face. Here it is :
I Hybridway, highly recommend that you buy one small XB board & compare it to anything at all in flower. And see for yourselves what the outcome is. Who knows, maybe its just me that had this problem on that one plant coincidentally with HydroGrow (should not call them HGL in my opinion, they're riding CoatTails Hard Enough) while the rest of the garden did pretty darn well. Only you can tell us now.
Got NO Beef with You BigPerm so don't let HydroGrow Soup your head bra. All you're doing is trying & I for one can appreciate that. My best wishes & good luck For Real...
HLG, thank you for your Professionalism & Opportunity to use your new Trinity.
Your 96 Elite/ Amare Mono / FuelBomb plant broke my own records again. :weed: :bigjoint:20190916_203255.jpg
Idk what to tell you. These are all i have to show. Some quick averages pics.
HLG (did not take many pics for thread sorry)
20190917_202601.jpg 20190917_202429.jpg 20190921_223505.jpg Random handful of both after trimmer seperated worst popcorns. 20190919_162303.jpg Average HydroGrow Branch 20190914_172603.jpg 20190914_172550.jpg 20190914_172523.jpg HLG20190913_190532.jpg HydroGrow had a few better tops then they averaged, not bad but few n far between.
Thank you all whom were respectful for tuning in. Hopefully somebody else can either Confirm or Deny my findings to be similiar to there's. I will NOT be using HydroGrow in my garden.

Now that this is finally over Can Moderation @sunni Pls shut this thread down for viewing purposes only. Thank you & apologies for the crazy past few months.
 
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sunni

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I should not respond any further.
HydroGrow (yes that is your name) has already given me a warning. Apparently I'm another
Defamanizer whom will face serious consequences if i don't shut up about my findings .



Now that this is finally over Can Moderation @sunni Pls shut this thread down for viewing purposes only. Thank you & apologies for the crazy past few months.
now do you fucking believe us at riu? yeah.


happy to shut this fucking shit down
 
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