Highest THC Content?

lostNug · Nov 24, 2011

My SFV(san fernando vallley) OG strain is 22% thc. First time I grew this strain myself so im sure it didn't come out as high but its definetly one of my most potent strains. I going to take a sample nug to my bud that I got the strain from this weekend so then I can grab really compare it.

Edit: here's the link the test of my sfv og

http://budgenius.com/SFV-OG-American-Eagle-Collective-BG0010001EB89.html

I am also going to get the sfv and some of my other strains tested soon. Me and my bud r workin on making a portable test kit so we can come and do it on the spot instead of getting it sent out.

I got some herjowana (sp?) From the clinic a while back that was almost 26% thc (each med they have is tested). It came from same grower whom I gott the other strains from so I will be picking up some Herojawana cuts from him real soon for my next grow. From what he's told me its not a very easy strain to grow.

stonedmetalhead1 · Nov 24, 2011

Matt Rize said:
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Again, what's your point, because they say so? Just tell me how you think they get the weight of THC when they don't have a pure standard of all compounds found in cannabis. It's simple logic, size does not relate to mass and if there are unknowns how could you determine the mass of one compound in relation to another?

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
Again, what's your point, because they say so? Just tell me how you think they get the weight of THC when they don't have a pure standard of all compounds found in cannabis.

go... read... thanks... I'm not a chem teacher, altho this is exactly what I studied. Either you are right, or the whole of science is right... hmm.... you still have no clue how GC analysis works. educate yourself. you want a chem class from me, thats going to cost $

READ......... It's not illegal yet

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

lostNug said:
My SFV(san fernando vallley) OG strain is 22% thc. First time I grew this strain myself so im sure it didn't come out as high but its definetly one of my most potent strains. I going to take a sample nug to my bud that I got the strain from this weekend so then I can grab really compare it.

Edit: here's the link the test of my sfv og

http://budgenius.com/SFV-OG-American-Eagle-Collective-BG0010001EB89.html

I am also going to get the sfv and some of my other strains tested soon. Me and my bud r workin on making a portable test kit so we can come and do it on the spot instead of getting it sent out.

I got some herjowana (sp?) From the clinic a while back that was almost 26% thc (each med they have is tested). It came from same grower whom I gott the other strains from so I will be picking up some Herojawana cuts from him real soon for my next grow. From what he's told me its not a very easy strain to grow.

None of the good OGs are easy. Herjo is probably the highest THC testing OG.

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
lol, what does that have to do with anything relating to how you think they get the % by of thc with unknown variables? I understand what these machines are and how they work, can you not answer a question directly?

I gave up answering your trolling ?s yesterday. I decided you need to educate yourself. Start with wiki, then read some college level stuff on Mass Spec.

Mass spectrometry (MS) is an analytical technique that measures the mass-to-charge ratio of charged particles.[1] It is used for determining masses of particles, for determining the elemental composition of a sample or molecule, and for elucidating the chemical structures of molecules, such as peptides and other chemical compounds. The MS principle consists of ionizing chemical compounds to generate charged molecules or molecule fragments and measuring their mass-to-charge ratios.[1] In a typical MS procedure:
A sample is loaded onto the MS instrument, and undergoes vaporization
The components of the sample are ionized by one of a variety of methods (e.g., by impacting them with an electron beam), which results in the formation of charged particles (ions)
The ions are separated according to their mass-to-charge ratio in an analyzer by electromagnetic fields
The ions are detected, usually by a quantitative method
The ion signal is processed into mass spectra
MS instruments consist of three modules:
An ion source, which can convert gas phase sample molecules into ions (or, in the case of electrospray ionization, move ions that exist in solution into the gas phase)
A mass analyzer, which sorts the ions by their masses by applying electromagnetic fields
A detector, which measures the value of an indicator quantity and thus provides data for calculating the abundances of each ion present
The technique has both qualitative and quantitative uses. These include identifying unknown compounds, determining the isotopic composition of elements in a molecule, and determining the structure of a compound by observing its fragmentation. Other uses include quantifying the amount of a compound in a sample or studying the fundamentals of gas phase ion chemistry (the chemistry of ions and neutrals in a vacuum). MS is now in very common use in analytical laboratories that study physical, chemical, or biological properties of a great variety of compounds.

Read here, all about quantifying:
http://www.prenhall.com/settle/chapters/ch31.pdf

Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry
Summary
General Uses
Common Applications
• Quantitation of pollutants in drinking and wastewater using official U.S. Environmental Protec- tion Agency (EPA) methods
• Quantitation of drugs and their metabolites in blood and urine for both pharmacological and fo- rensic applications

stonedmetalhead1 · Nov 24, 2011

Matt Rize said:
I gave up answering your trolling ?s yesterday. I decided you need to educate yourself. Start with wiki, then read some college level stuff on Mass Spec.

Read here, all about quantifying:
http://www.prenhall.com/settle/chapters/ch31.pdf

Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry
Summary
General Uses
Common Applications
• Quantitation of pollutants in drinking and wastewater using official U.S. Environmental Protec- tion Agency (EPA) methods
• Quantitation of drugs and their metabolites in blood and urine for both pharmacological and fo- rensic applications

All that gives you is the protocol for doing the test and a quantitative analysis doesn't equal weight. What are you saying they are testing it against?

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

What do you think quantity means?

stonedmetalhead1 · Nov 24, 2011

Did you really go to college? I don't believe you.

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
Did you really go to college? I don't believe you.

I like you

is there a tee-hee smilie? should I upload some pics of text books and lab books? dude, I was trying to explain it to you but you turn it into some convoluted troll fest. I posted the actual info. Did you read any of that stuff I linked. I highlighted the point that you are trying to make. I'll requote it:
“The most commonly used method for analysis of cannabinoids is gas chromatography [Raharjo, 2004]. But because this method is based on heating of sample components, it converts acidic cannabinoids present in the sample into their decarboxylated counterparts. Therefore, GC analysis is not suitable for the determination of the authentic composition of the cannabinoids in the plant.”

This is saying that what is in the raw bud is different than what is in the smoke. You know this stuff but I'll say it again. Because you smoke or vape cannabis, to get a reading of what is in the smoke, you heat the sample to decarb. For edibles you can't use a GC to test the potency, because they do not get smoked or vaped. I thought that was your point.

Now what I think you are asking me, correct me if I'm wrong here, is:

How does science get a quantification, a number like 25% THC, of any cannabis product using any device?

Is that right? The answer is computers, big surprise right?

Read all about it, its still legal to read soooo much good info online if you look for it.
http://www.perkinelmer.com/CMSResources/Images/44-74557gde_turbomassgcmssoftwareenvironmentaltutorial.pdf

stonedmetalhead1 · Nov 24, 2011

That has nothing to do with any point I'm trying to make at all. All I was saying is that THC % is not % of weight of the sample i.e. 15% THC = .15 grams THC/gram of bud is not accurate. Nothing you have posted has said otherwise in any way, shape, or form. It's like you posted random information about GC/.MS and HPLC hoping it supported your position.

Matt Rize · Nov 24, 2011

stonedmetalhead1 said:
That has nothing to do with any point I'm trying to make at all. All I was saying is that THC % is not % of weight of the sample i.e. 15% THC = .15 grams THC/gram of bud. Nothing you have posted has said otherwise in any way, shape, or form. It's like you posted random information about GC/.MS and HPLC hoping it supported your position.

Bro, what I'm saying is that each lab develops a technique to compute those number based on standards and experience. Thats how GC/MS gets numbers, you start from scratch and work it out with standards and by having your numbers checked with other labs. Its a complex formula, and different at every lab.

stonedmetalhead1 · Nov 24, 2011

And I'm saying when you see a strain tested at 27%, it's not 27% of the weight of the bud. Even logically that makes sense taking in to account what a bud is made up of i.e. starches, amino acids, etc......

Cannabisworks · Nov 24, 2011

lol..ok i see you had no actual hands on exp to say there is no standardisation. how else do you think they calibrate the machines. most of us dont test for the other cannabinoids
and testing spent weed dosent tell us anything. would be almost zero for results as its now dead, burnt. got to hot. also why we get more out of a vapourisor as its not the same heat.

27%THC is a crock. whe n you see higher numbers its cause they are salseman andf add the acids full cannabinoid and also add thc, cbd,cbn together. and again. means nothing cause that was for that 1 grow.l. no other will ever have same results or we would have this in a bottle on the drug store shelves.

Cannabisworks · Nov 24, 2011

if were testing for thc why would anyone care about the other standardisation when were not testing for it???.
ask a pro and see if they use gas.....

Cannabisworks · Nov 24, 2011

[video=youtube;r2QC9b90loM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=r2QC9b90loM[/video]

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0calli · Nov 24, 2011

dr grinspoon been tested as high as 30%

Cannabisworks · Nov 24, 2011

bull...been doing this for many many years and yet to find anything more than 25% yet. and not many of those either. like i said, they add all the acid forms and all cannabinoids to get the fake hi sales numbers. just looked it up and addds say 25 not5 30 and i still say b.s

0calli · Nov 24, 2011

i meant to say i read in the beggining of the post

but i have smoked for 20 plus years and the best ive ever had and the strongest was dr grinspoon-sativa

0calli · Nov 24, 2011

also there are more than the one article you read on the net about dr grinspoon man your acting like a kid and i also say doing what for many years

Cannabisworks said:
bull...been doing this for many many years and yet to find anything more than 25% yet. and not many of those either. like i said, they add all the acid forms and all cannabinoids to get the fake hi sales numbers. just looked it up and addds say 25 not5 30 and i still say b.s

0calli · Nov 24, 2011

plus i never once said you were wrong with the adding of numbers never disagreed once so take a fookin chill pill

Cannabisworks said:
bull...been doing this for many many years and yet to find anything more than 25% yet. and not many of those either. like i said, they add all the acid forms and all cannabinoids to get the fake hi sales numbers. just looked it up and addds say 25 not5 30 and i still say b.s

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