HELP!! VEG Plants roots growing through 3g smart pots!! ASAP

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dimyself

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Man, I just transplanted into 3g smart pots about 2 weeks ago. I looked at the bottom of my pots today and there are roots coming out of the bottom of these things!! What can / should I do?? Why are they growing so quick?

Do I need to transplant again already? BTW, these plants are about 1 month old in veg. How the hell can I tranplant with roots coming through the bottoms of these pots?? I just have to cut them out and do root damage?
 
or can I just cut the bottom out of the smart pot and directly put the entire pot/plant including 3g smart pot into 5/7g smart pots?
 
leave it. thats what they do. dont know to many that need more than 3 gal pots to grow in unless your vegging for 5 months or something. roots go right to bottom right away then fiill in the pot. its a good thing, id leave it. any that come out to the light wqill die off and reproduce on their own.
 
Sounds like you are getting some exceptional root growth which is great :)

If you want to put it in a larger pot just take a pair of scissors and cut down the side of it to open it up...if you hit a few roots down one side its no big deal...its best if the root structure is too dense to slice down the sides of it anyway when you are transplanting to encourage new growth. And they are growing so quick because YOU ARE DOING IT RIGHT :D
 
well i want to transplant anyway to at least 5g pots before flower. how do you tranplant out of these pots when the roots are all intertwined into the pot? Since the roots grow through the pots, can I just put the pot into new pot/soil and the roots will grow thrgoouh the pot into the bigger container?
 
like was said just cut em or tear them out. she`ll be fine. who the need for such big pots. you going outdoor or this vegged for 6 month or something?
 
dimyself said:
I always thought the bigger pot the more rOom and bigger yield. I know veg time matters but didn't know they needed 6months veg to accommodate 5g pots
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No they don't need 6 months veg to fill up a 5gallon pot...if done right you can have a flourishing root system in a 5 gallon pot in under a month and a half, ready for flowering...especially if you use co2 as that increases the plants metabolism. Expect an additional week veg time when you transplant for "shock" :)
 
pot size has absolutly nothing to do with yield. or plant size. all to do with veg times for larger plants. 1 gal per month of veg or per 1 foot of growth is all that is needed. just more web myths. they see they veg longer using bigger pots as they go and say it was the pot. but 2 more months of veg had nothing to do with iut...lol..just not so.
ive pulled huge weight in 1 gal pot and nothing noticably more in a 3 gal in same grow and same strains over and over. there may be a slight shape diff but not a huge yield increase like some claim...no9t from the size of the pot anyways
hell i ran a test once in solo cups and grew them for 4 month in that small cup. did fine/. was alot of work and dont recomend but showed pot size means nothing for outcome. unless the roots are to bound up is the only thing that may hinder. but at 1 gal per month or 1 gal per foot its fine
in fact to big causes more issues by not drying fast enough and kills the o2 around the root zone and messes up the ph is not dealt with right for water amounts
 
I'm growing a strain that stretches 3-4x in flower and vigorous... Not sure if that matters. Also, I had them in solo cups for 2weeks and they got root bound and started wilting and looking really bad. Thats when I transplated into 3G pots 2 weeks ago and the next day they were 2x the size they were in cups
 
flower stretch dont matter., its rated on veg time. once we go to flower NEW root growth is slowed and is more about replacing old dead roots with new tissue so it dosent fill as it did in veg
 
It's also varies depending on strain?

So, I will take clones of them probably in a week or so... Once clones are rooted I will throw them into flower. So probably about 1.5month or closer to 2month in veg. I guess I can wait a few weeks to see how it looks to decide if needs transplant or not?

I'm not trying to doubt you... I just want to make sure the 3g's will be big enuf to suppose this strain/roots
 
ive never ran more than a 3 gal under 1k light and have yet to fill the pot with a reg 4 to 6 week veg. under the multi 600 i run now 2 gal is all i sue and its not full..and yes i have great roots.
prove it to yourself. run same veg and use a 2 and in a 3 gal and tell me how much it made more bud. easy enough to prove or dissprove
and hes ritht. your only one to now how full roots are. just dont see it needing it so save the money. to me id rather spedn the money on other that will help more than a 1 or 2 gal pot diff makes
 
Cannabisworks said:
ive never ran more than a 3 gal under 1k light and have yet to fill the pot with a reg 4 to 6 week veg. under the multi 600 i run now 2 gal is all i sue and its not full..and yes i have great roots.
prove it to yourself. run same veg and use a 2 and in a 3 gal and tell me how much it made more bud. easy enough to prove or dissprove
and hes ritht. your only one to now how full roots are. just dont see it needing it so save the money. to me id rather spedn the money on other that will help more than a 1 or 2 gal pot diff makes
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makes sense... it just contradicts alot of what i've read on the topic of transplanting and soil requirements needed for flowering. one thing is i think it will be closer to the 2 month mark before i flower (because i want to get rooted clones off each plant). can you tell me how i can tell when it gets closer to time if i should transplant? after you pointed out the size requirements, i started reading and i DID read on some people that got rootbound into flowering using 3g pots. I know I can just look at the roots by taking the plant out the pot, but how will i be able to tell if it should be in a bigger pot prior to the big 12/12 switcheroo?

+ reps btw... thanks for your help man
 
for me i want a nice full solid ball of soil. so the roots hold the whole mass as one and wont crumble apart when i remove it from a pot. dont jammed tight full but i dont want it all loose and soil falling as i remove it. onbce a root system has pretty much filled a pot they dont keep growing new ones at the same rate. it will slow as the pot fills. and they will focus more on replacing older tissue with new. root tissue does die to.
ive yet to see what root boudn has done also. ive ran for months in a small pot. wasnt good but nothing happns but slower growth and more frequent food and water needs is all. true root bound is when something goes bad in the root path and it binds all into knots and chokes itself to death. ibe never seen that in real life yet. what some call root bound isnt what root bound truely means/. just for them its slwoed growth. and sure its not good but wont kill it ad by then your done with growth and want bud by then anyways

your sort of on borderline for me to be a 3 or a 2 gal for 2 month veg then flower. i think 3 would be better for you if your going that far. also light plays big role as thats the engine for its growth. so less light will be smaller and less roots.
if you want to check for transplant pull the plant out of pot and see if you can handle the root ball and soil without it falling apart in your hands. if it does then leave it. if it stays quite firm transplant
 
Cannabisworks said:
for me i want a nice full solid ball of soil. so the roots hold the whole mass as one and wont crumble apart when i remove it from a pot. dont jammed tight full but i dont want it all loose and soil falling as i remove it. onbce a root system has pretty much filled a pot they dont keep growing new ones at the same rate. it will slow as the pot fills. and they will focus more on replacing older tissue with new. root tissue does die to.
ive yet to see what root boudn has done also. ive ran for months in a small pot. wasnt good but nothing happns but slower growth and more frequent food and water needs is all. true root bound is when something goes bad in the root path and it binds all into knots and chokes itself to death. ibe never seen that in real life yet. what some call root bound isnt what root bound truely means/. just for them its slwoed growth. and sure its not good but wont kill it ad by then your done with growth and want bud by then anyways

your sort of on borderline for me to be a 3 or a 2 gal for 2 month veg then flower. i think 3 would be better for you if your going that far. also light plays big role as thats the engine for its growth. so less light will be smaller and less roots.
if you want to check for transplant pull the plant out of pot and see if you can handle the root ball and soil without it falling apart in your hands. if it does then leave it. if it stays quite firm transplant
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ok thanks man... actually i started a thread on it here i think it was... my plants looked REALLY bad wilting really bad like they do when they need water bad. The wilting kept getting worse (hence the reason I posted it here). And my watering is done correctly... I water, let them dry out very well then water again. So I couldnt figure out the problem, until I looked at the roots of my 2 week old sprouts and roots had completely circled the bottom of the solo cup and up the sides... man the plants kept getting worse before I checked that. Let's put it this way, they looked so bad that when I saw how the roots looked and how wilted/bad the leaves looked I immediately transplanted that night up until 4am into my 3g pots and the next day they had all completely sprung back, lush green, and DOUBLE the size (not exaggerating)! No transplant shock, they just shot out like a catapult. So, I attribute that to being rootbound at 2 weeks old in red solo cups. THATS what i want to avoid!

Because I know what you're saying... i have some other plants outside in my garden that I keep in pots and they dont get all sick they just stopped growing any bigger once they filled the pots... it wasn't like that with these though idk why
 
dimyself said:
That's what I thought... So why would u suggest not using bugger pots for more growth?
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Cannabisworks knows what he is saying, i used to put plants strait from a plastic beer cup (clear one so i can see roots hit the side, but that cup is set inside a dark one so the roots are in dark) into a white square 3gal, it takes them about two weeks to fill that cup. Then 2.5mo veg, 2mo flower, .5mo flush all in the 3gal.

THEN i went clone crazy and took 20 clones off 8 Cheese plants that veged WAAAYYY to long, and put them in 1GAL SMART POTs, (after the clone's roots filled a 8oz dixy cup) i vegd them in those pot until until they filled a 1x1ft space(1MONTH) then flowered them for the full 9 weeks in that same pot.

THE RESULTS
the plant was forced to bonsai, giving all the 6 or so branches they each had full access to light
6 TOPS X 20 PLANTS do the math
not much pruning needed, top them, take a couple off the bottom(clones)
no more stupid little pop corn puff buds!!!!!!!!!!
did this all organic
think of it as a sog, with scrog results. more bud per square foot.
 
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