doublejj
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Anything you can do for support will help....best of luck
Help! Stalk split!!!!
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Brother Sweetleaf
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Looks like you've already got some good advice to follow from this thread. In researching the tip posted here by DoubleJJ, I learned that pure Epsom Salt (Magnesium Sulfate) helps seeds germinate, makes plants grow bushier, produces more flowers, increases chlorophyll production and deters pests, such as slugs and voles. It also provides vital nutrients to supplement your regular fertilizer. (Cornell University Assistant Professor Neil Mattson says plants will show visual cues if they are starved for a particular nutrient. If a plant’s leaves turn yellow all over the plant, it can be a sign they need more Sulfate. If lower leaves turn yellow between the veins [while the veins remain green], they may need more Magnesium.)
Last year, one of my plants split exactly like yours did here. I taped it up using green gardening-tape/ floral-tape, which is stretchy & non-restricting as the branches/ areas taped continue to grow. I was concerned that the untaped tippety-top of my taped-together branches was too "open", as if the tape itself was a support-bandage that also acted as a covering against germs & pests from creeping into the split. When you look down inside that "funnel-cup" of tape, the branches may join together somewhat, but the wound there is still kinda "open" & unprotected. So lemme tell ya what helped me & my plant:
Pure Aloe Vera gel applied into the tape-cup, basically drowning that "open" part of the split with "Nature's Healing Goop". It's said by many to be very good at helping plants to heal topical wounds, and I believe that pests & germs probably won't cross through it. I'd just get a small aloe plant for yourself, then cut a small piece from it & squeeze-out the clear gel from inside the Aloe branch. (Aside from helping your plant, nothing works better for sunburns, BTW)
Also, you want to give it a dose or 2 of the award-winning anti-stress trauma-recovery supplement: Superthrive. For 80 years now, it's worked wonders at helping plants shake-off a major crisis, like massive changes in light-cycle, being transplanted, and big stressors like HST, bending, heavy pruning, & physical traumas like your split. Plants recover from traumas like this by diverting the "grow-energy" into "survive & heal-energy". Because plants absorb nutrients most-effectively through it's leaves, if you make the proper anti-stress dilution of Superthrive into a spray-bottle & then mist your leaves with it, your plant will recover much faster, and it will switch from Repair & Rebuild Mode and return-back to growing & flowering, resulting in a bigger yield come harvest-time. For me, Superthrive is an absolute staple-- a "must-have" for any time the plant goes through a crisis. I've seen a plant take a rough & destructive beating, then-- after proper care & a dose or 2 of Superthrive-- it was perky & sprouting new growth the very next day.
Good Luck!
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Brother Sweetleaf
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I just took a screenshot of some video I recorded on my last grow, when my own plant split in 2 just like yours did. I'll be posting the video later this year on my Youtube channel, but for now here's a pic for ya, Broseph:
Colacody
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Hey JJ.....looks like the Epsom salts did the trick. Maybe it was the ph adjustment too but she's getting happy again.
Thanks guys for the help. For sure getting a more all around fert from bio thrive grow and maybe the bloom for flowering in a few weeks.
Didnt think Epsom salts could be a huge difference in the outcome here but wow. 100% noted for future....epsom salts in the cupboard.
Now one more question.....how often do you add epsom salts for magnesium....once a week? Every time you fertilize?
And how often do you guys fertilize your girls??
Brother Sweetleaf
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Wow! She looks great, Broseph! ->Shwing!<- Definitely may need supports there, but really do make sure that beast heals fully and ASAP. Having a good, hard, secure "joint" there at the split-site (sort of like a hardened "knuckle") will take a lot of energy but really needs to happen (and happen ASAP, since it's Early-Flowering Season right now, and the plant is diverting less energy to stem/stalk repair & is beginning to focus on bud-production). Having that site fully secured & repaired (ideally even better than before the split occurred) is most important (get that Superthrive TODAY, Son! ). I think your idea of twine from the outside sorta holding the branches together sounds pretty good, but it IS providing a crutch for the plant. Frankly, I love the little beast you've got there. As each year passes, I find myself trying more & more to get my plants as sprawled as yours is, Bro.
If I were you, I'd focus on gently bending/ shaping those side branches out from each of your main stalks. I like seeing a single plant that's been shaped & groomed to be like several mini-plants, each with it's own cola & side-branches. This is sorta how weed grows anyways, but if you "turn into it" a bit I think it can be kinda awesome.
Thanks for posting your results. She looks maahty puurty!
). I think your idea of twine from the outside sorta holding the branches together sounds pretty good, but it IS providing a crutch for the plant. Frankly, I love the little beast you've got there. As each year passes, I find myself trying more & more to get my plants as sprawled as yours is, Bro.If I were you, I'd focus on gently bending/ shaping those side branches out from each of your main stalks. I like seeing a single plant that's been shaped & groomed to be like several mini-plants, each with it's own cola & side-branches. This is sorta how weed grows anyways, but if you "turn into it" a bit I think it can be kinda awesome.
Generally, I like to use only a handful of products, I try to stick to Organic, or at least biologically-derived or whatever. Foxfarm (for example) is a company that I like, because their soil mixes are one of the best you can buy, and I love their trio of liquid nutrients: Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, & the organic staple Big Bloom. I feed them Foxfarm's prescribed nute cocktail, then I let them get somewhat thirsty (let the soil dry out to avoid root-rot!) and feed them only water (and as much direct sunlight as possible) for 3 or 4, sometimes 5 days in-between fert-feedings. However, during each of these in-between periods, I'll usually give the girls a drench with an Activated Aerated Compost Tea that I've made, using Boogie-Brew (pre-made organic good stuff for living soil) & a bit of blackstrap molasses (plus maybe sometimes I'll randomly add some egg-shells I've dried & ground-up [for extra Calcium] & a little extra bat-guano for flowering season). This feeds the soil, and in-turn the plant, and although it's nutrient-dense, it's technically not a fertilizer, so I can still abide by Foxfarm's two-times-a-week guideline while giving the girls a bonus boost of a healthy yummy tea they & the soil microbes just love... And I love the simplicity. I used to get all caught-up in making my own combination of nutrients, trying to split the atom while reinventing the wheel, and it just didn't pay-out; it just wasn't worth all the time, energy, research, etc. I don't need to be a botanist to love my plants when there's some highly reputed companies & products out there that already did the math for me. It's easier & offers fewer mistakes.
Thanks for posting your results. She looks maahty puurty!
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Colacody
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Now JJ should I give her some fert every 2 weeks aswell with the Epsom salts or only epsom salts every 2 weeks?I give 1tbls epsom salts in 5gl every 2 weeks weather they show signs or not. Usually if you start this early in life they will be green for life....best of luck your well on your way
And is fertilizer every week too much?
Colacody
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Wow! She looks great, Broseph! ->Shwing!<- Definitely may need supports there, but really do make sure that beast heals fully and ASAP. Having a good, hard, secure "joint" there at the split-site (sort of like a hardened "knuckle") will take a lot of energy but really needs to happen (and happen ASAP, since it's Early-Flowering Season right now, and the plant is diverting less energy to stem/stalk repair & is beginning to focus on bud-production). Having that site fully secured & repaired (ideally even better than before the split occurred) is most important (get that Superthrive TODAY, Son!
If I were you, I'd focus on gently bending/ shaping those side branches out from each of your main stalks. I like seeing a single plant that's been shaped & groomed to be like several mini-plants, each with it's own cola & side-branches. This is sorta how weed grows anyways, but if you "turn into it" a bit I think it can be kinda awesome.
Generally, I like to use only a handful of products, I try to stick to Organic, or at least biologically-derived or whatever. Foxfarm (for example) is a company that I like, because their soil mixes are one of the best you can buy, and I love their trio of liquid nutrients: Grow Big, Tiger Bloom, & the organic staple Big Bloom. I feed them Foxfarm's prescribed nute cocktail, then I let them get somewhat thirsty (let the soil dry out to avoid root-rot!) and feed them only water (and as much direct sunlight as possible) for 3 or 4, sometimes 5 days in-between fert-feedings. However, during each of these in-between periods, I'll usually give the girls a drench with an Activated Aerated Compost Tea that I've made, using Boogie-Brew (pre-made organic good stuff for living soil) & a bit of blackstrap molasses (plus maybe sometimes I'll randomly add some egg-shells I've dried & ground-up [for extra Calcium] & a little extra bat-guano for flowering season). This feeds the soil, and in-turn the plant, and although it's nutrient-dense, it's technically not a fertilizer, so I can still abide by Foxfarm's two-times-a-week guideline while giving the girls a bonus boost of a healthy yummy tea they & the soil microbes just love... And I love the simplicity. I used to get all caught-up in making my own combination of nutrients, trying to split the atom while reinventing the wheel, and it just didn't pay-out; it just wasn't worth all the time, energy, research, etc. I don't need to be a botanist to love my plants when there's some highly reputed companies & products out there that already did the math for me. It's easier & offers fewer mistakes.
Thanks for posting your results. She looks maahty puurty!
Thanks man. I'm going only organic and trying not to over do it. Seeing what works and what doesnt. Support will be a large area of improvement as well as nutrients next year...getting them dialed in that is. Funny that my Durban poison is just rocking tho......BUT....I forgot I did add banana peels and egg shells and soaked the soil heavily with organic fish fertilizer and epsom salts also.....so that is probably a big difference AND that the little guy is in a 35 gal pot and being stupid I put the gorilla into a 10 gal only. Lesson learned
doublejj
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fertilizer varies as needed just give the epsom ever 2 weeks. Fertilizer every 1 or 2 weeks is usually appropriate. If 2 weeks is too long and the plants show signs of needing food, increase to once a week..
Colacody
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Here's where my green horn shines. I'm not sure if I'm under feeding or over feeding? How can I tell?
Do I just monitor conditions after and guesstimate....? Educated guess more so
ganga gurl420
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Most nutes have instructions on the bottle or bag and should be followed accordingly unless the plant is showing symptoms of over or under feeding.
Many are going into flower now so nutrient needs will be changing and feeding programs will as well.
doublejj
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you can always increase or decrease the frequency but never increase the dosage. Try it once wvery 2 weeks and increase to weekly if they look good. I wouldn't recommend any more
710allday369
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Hey man i just put a plant clamp on the base with some rootin hormone. you can also use some coconut powder with enough water to make a paste and just apply then put the clamp on. does wonders!
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Colacody
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Thanks man. Will defs grab some shortly anyways gonna clone the durban I think. I got the superthrive today so she's getting a shot of that today for sure. Learning so much and thanks to all of you guys. In the process of getting materials for a grow tent or cabinet for the winter. I love growing!!!
Growing24/7
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I had 2 clones from the same mother last year, when they were about 3 feet tall one of them got trampled upon by a squirrel. If i didn't see it i would have thought a raccoon or something bigger than a squirrel did damage like that. My plant was crushed to the ground, flat. I looked at it and went oh shit, at least i have 1 left.. But i thought eh i'll tape her up and see if she recovers.
Long story short, on harvest day they were both 6 feet tall and looked identical like nothing ever happened. It surprised me how fast they recover
Long story short, on harvest day they were both 6 feet tall and looked identical like nothing ever happened. It surprised me how fast they recover
710allday369
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No problem. Another tip for better grow is using blackstrap molasses and epsom salt. Good organic super booster. Makes the colas get big thick and tall for huge yield results!
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Colacody
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The bloom fert I'm getting has that and Epsom salts have saved this things life no doubt. A tbsp shot every 2 weeks with the fert. So excited we are BACK ON TRACK!
Ya these things are tough as hell. Love em. She's bouncing back pretty good now