Help ID mushroom (detailed post and pics)

loveformetal1

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Hey guys, I spent a bunch of time making this today, but shroomery.org wants me to wait 1 month or post 30 times before I can make my own topic.. Itd be a shame to waste these mushrooms and this post! Can any1 help?
Only if you know what your talking about please, Bored people looking for conversation is not very helpful. But hey anyways :P













Habitat:
(Im gonna narrate the photos here, Its the green photos)
I found these in Extremely rich soil of a champagne vineyard.
If you look in the photo, I found these in between the FIRST and SECOND. row of vines.
The dirt was moist, but not muddy. nor did the elaborate vegetation get my shoes wet.
((Whats important to note is to the other side of that fence is a pretty large field. The half closest to the vines is old dry straw, couple feet tall. very dense. Once past that is the Dairy cow pastures. tons of thick greens)) (so the first row where I picked is .exposed. to other habitats.


Where does it grow?
Sonoma county, California, SF bay area. around santa rosa and sebastopol (which is like 35 mins from the coast (bodega) Our mornings are usually cold and foggy! but these last 2 nights have been quite nice. not hot. but not icey at all. just 2 days of mid 80s weather and not a lot of moisture, JUUst trace amounts.

. All of these vineyards have rich layers of previous harvests trimmings. Lots and lots of old dry vines matted underneath this dirt.
*NOTE* In the picture of the LARge bag of mushrooms you can see the mushroom growing out of this old ''wood' vine.

Gills: Gills ARE a .darker brown. than what the caps discolored into, but NOT black

When fresh the gills inside the healthiest, oldest caps were sometimes white, the same color as the mushroom cap and stem.


Stem:
You can clearly see Mycelium in one of my pictures. however I only found a couple babies with Mycelium.

regardless of stage of shrooms life. the stem was always the same length ~ 40 mm or 2 pennies. (excluding root)
ALL were BARE stiped. with a THIN, WHITE stem. Stringy cheese like consistency., and looking more or less like a familiar grass root.
filled and hallow stem.
About the diameter of 2 or 3 pins.

When drying ( 8 hours later indoors) Stems less white, subtly darkening to a slight brown/pink.



Cap: (see picture)
Beautiful smooth WHITE-grayish. White being primary. Its such a strange white though.. you can clearly see a darker layer underneath.. yet its clearly white. Its like putting an ALMOSt transparent piece of white paper over a slightly darker piece of paper. The color in question is a browner shade. but not dirt brown. more of a a VEry subtle purple,brown. cuz brown doesnt do it justice. This darker color in question shows through the subtle wrinkles (vertical)
The edges of the caps that were exposed to sun were folding inwards as if eating itself, exposing a ring of black (the inside of the mushroom)

When FIRst

Spore print color:
Charcoal is the spore print. (see pic)
! Spore prints didnt come out well! couldnt get much spores out at all so many hours later. B
black but not jet black. a lighter black.

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any.
The mushrooms are all an OFF white now. Tan. Beige. The brusing is the light to moderate brown. Those trippy wrinkles from before are just a sligter brown than the other bruises now. (thats probably IS most of the visual bruising, besides the overall change to beige/tan.

Other information: Smells like good ol' dirty dirt!
The baby form of these mushrooms started off a very orangy brown. The cap still so acutely coned its not quite convex, but rather still unfolding :)

Id like to say thanks in advance, I spent a TON of time today takin pics and making this thread. I found these mushrooms on land only hundreds of yards from where I grow up. Smoked my first pot. Spent countless hours outside there I let the mushrooms 'find me' as the term goes. I even sang songs to the mushrooms and danced as I was picking em. These were an expected surprise, I was just going to watch the sunrise. However, it really doesnt seem like a coincidence for these to find me now.
)
I noticed all the characteristics matched SOME sort of magic mushroom, but I couldnt quite figure these out, as it was my 2nd time picking mushrooms (first last night
 

purple stanky

New Member
i really dont think i would eat those only taking into consideration the fact that they dont bruise blue or green or black
which would indicate psilocybin being present.
 

purple stanky

New Member
there is an old saying .... "there are old mushroom hunters and there are
bold mushroom hunters but there are no old bold mushroom hunters"
hope this helps.... be safe =)
 

l333t

Well-Known Member
these don't look hallucinogenic, if the spore-print was brown to black.
No one can safely safe what they are over the internet ,it's hard enough when there,plus your photo seems to change colour from white tan to red to tan red, no good photos of the gills.
The shape even looks different in a couple.If i had to guess stropharia semigobata (don't eat them) don't be like my buddy who ate purple mushrooms thought he got high but really was lucky he didn't eat poisonous mushrooms when luckily he ate edible ones.Still thinks there were hallogunic but really it was a placebo effect.

Of course i'm probably wrong with my identification ,but if you want to pick mushrooms go to your library and find a book about mushrooms and read and read then find somene who knows mushrooms and go picking with them most people who pick mushrooms are happy to teach someone enjoys it.
 

loveformetal1

Well-Known Member
Did they ever bruise! Ive spent a lot of time with these mushrooms, a lot of patience to get my answer. Respected them. etc etc.
Heres the updated pics. The colored markers in the background are for reference. from left to right the colors are:
"only orange" "Close to cocoa" and "really rust" and the descriptions are pretty accurate.

By the way the gills were attached to the stem. adnate adnexed.





 

loveformetal1

Well-Known Member
Hey Im back! I value the knowledge of experienced mushroom hunters. do these look special ? the big cap in the picture I pinched and flicked and came back later to find it bruised where I pinched it. very nice
 

Swag

Well-Known Member
Did they ever bruise! Ive spent a lot of time with these mushrooms, a lot of patience to get my answer. Respected them. etc etc.
Heres the updated pics. The colored markers in the background are for reference. from left to right the colors are:
"only orange" "Close to cocoa" and "really rust" and the descriptions are pretty accurate.

By the way the gills were attached to the stem. adnate adnexed.





LBM's (little brown mushrooms) are notoriously hard to differ as there a loads of different strains and genus's of them, a fair amount of them are poisonous some may even be poisonous enough to be fatal (don't quote me I'm not an expert on mushrooms and this was what I learned from doing research on outdoor shroom hunting about a year back). A lot of sources I read said there not worth it, but at the same time they could be some delicious liberty caps... I dunno but just to be on the safe side I would not recommend eating them until someone here could positively identify them for you, if that's even possible. I heard magic mushrooms should bruise blue not orange as the psychoactive substance in them (psilocybin & psilocin) change to blue when exposed to oxygen, though that might be for only cubensis and some others, I'm not sure with LBM's. Hope I was able to be some kind of help.
 
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