Mushrooms in our Cannabis Garden

Mass Medicinals

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With all of the rain we have received over the last couple weeks, and the relatively high humidity levels our garden and surrounding area has been invaded with mushrooms.



It's not a good sign for fighting bud rot within the cannabis garden, when all around the plants we have wild mushrooms sprouting up. Basically most of New England has been the perfect conditions for fungi.


But we did our best to remove them from the area. Not sure if those mushroom are even a threat to the cannabis plants.

And since we have no idea if these cool looking things are a problem. I'm more or less going to ignore that possibility and geek out on mushrooms for a bit



Anatomy of the mushrooms in these photos:
Cap: is a yellow and light brown color
Scales: yes, they are a off-white color
Gills: are prominent and well spaced
Ring: hangs off the plant and is white with bits of yellow (better example in the photos below)

Appearance seems to fade out as the mushrooms progress through their life cycle.

Compare the younger mushroom (above) with the two older ones (below).



A basic search on the web, led us to believe these are Amanita frostiana mushrooms.

According to wiki, this genus contains some 600 species, including some of the most toxic mushrooms to be found around the globe.



Some of those well known species include:

Amanita muscaria - also called the fly agaric and fly amanita. They contain muscimol and ibotenic acid. Primarily found in the cap of the mushroom. It is these two compounds and their interactions with the body that cause the psychoactive (hallucinogenic) effects. We are merely citing wiki and related sites for information, and are not promoting human consumption of these mushrooms.



Two other infamous mushrooms for their toxicity are:

Amanita bisporigera and Amanita ocreata - Also called Destroying Angel, what a name right?

It contains amatoxin which inhibits RNA polymerase II and III (just nod like that means something to us). Symptoms do not appear for 5-24 hours when most of the toxin has been absorbed by the kidney and liver. And it is at this time that the damage is irreversible. As little as half a mushroom cap can be fatal. And these can be confused for the magic mushroom variety.

Amanita phalloides - Death Cap. I mean if the name itself doesn't drive a little fear into you you. This excerpt hopefully will.

And quote, "The death cap is one of the most poisonous mushrooms in the northern hemisphere. It grows throughout the entire temperate zone of Europe, Asia and North Africa. It was carried (probably with tree seedlings) to North America and Australia. This amanita is responsible for most mushroom poisonings, and even small doses can be very dangerous. Resistance to the poison varies among individuals, so specifying a fatal dose is difficult. The poison - amanitin, damages the liver and kidneys. Initial symptoms occur 8 to 48 hours after ingestion. In this phase, the person experiences fatigue, stomach nausea, dizziness, headaches and feelings of cold, even freezing. The nausea intensifies, stomach aches occur, accompanied by strong retching and watery diarrhea, leading to dehydration, and eventual circulatory failure. This is usually the immediate cause of death in children. If the patient survives this phase, his condition appears to improve (usually the fourth day after ingestion). In the second phase, the kidneys fail, and sometimes the liver as well. Death usually occurs four to twelve days after ingestion."

Call your local poison control. Better yet don't go foraging for wild mushrooms if you aren't a pro...



I don't believe these are Amanita mushrooms they are a lot smaller. But still pretty cool looking. I sort of gave up on researching these ones after doing a serious deep dive into the Amanita genus.

Artsy photos are easy. Looking through a ton of photos for, white small mushrooms with ring, less fun.

Here's, "the odd pair"



Calling this one, "the loner"



And this, "mushroom deep in thought"



Anyways like I said, I have no idea if these mushrooms are going to negatively impact our cannabis garden. But it was fun photographing and researching them.

Please be careful even just handling mushrooms. After researching the more poisonous ones, I went and washed my hands a couple times just for good measure.

Happy Growing!!!
MM's
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Cool. I wouldn't worry too much about those mushrooms doing anything negative to your cannabis. But yeah none of those are considered "edible" mushrooms. Every few years you hear about someone eating those Destroying Angels or the Death Cap "Amanita phalloides". It never ends well. You have to be careful. I pick wild mushrooms but only a couple that are easily recognized and I've been picking for decades like Chanterelles. I'm not that adventurous with my internal organs.

Back in the eighties we used to skip school and drive out to Tillamook or Astoria Oregon, or sometimes we'd go up into Washington and pick hallucinogenic mushrooms. I still have a book I bought back in the eighties to identify them. We'd mostly get Liberty Caps "Psilocybe semilanceata" but we'd find other varieties as well.
 

waterproof808

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cool pics. I get lots of "wood ear" mushrooms that grow on dead mango branches in my yard and are supposed to be choice eating, but I'm always scared to try them. Ever since I listened to PAul Stamets on the Joe Rogan Podcast, I've been really considering growing some edible (culinary) mushrooms on logs but I need to research the varieties that will do well in my climate.
 

Mass Medicinals

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That's pretty cool. I don't think I'd have the confidence to go wild foraging either. But that would truly round off the garden. I'd like to grow my own enoki. I love those in soups.
 

bearded.beaver

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I get morel mushrooms growing in my backyard. The look like brains. And taste awesome fried with butter and onions. Can't wait till next year. They grow around elm trees and I had one but it was dead when I moved in but the morels still pop up. Hope the won't stop now that the tree is gone. The stump is still there
 

Mr Blamo

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With all of the rain we have received over the last couple weeks, and the relatively high humidity levels our garden and surrounding area has been invaded with mushrooms.



It's not a good sign for fighting bud rot within the cannabis garden, when all around the plants we have wild mushrooms sprouting up. Basically most of New England has been the perfect conditions for fungi.


But we did our best to remove them from the area. Not sure if those mushroom are even a threat to the cannabis plants.

And since we have no idea if these cool looking things are a problem. I'm more or less going to ignore that possibility and geek out on mushrooms for a bit



Anatomy of the mushrooms in these photos:
Cap: is a yellow and light brown color
Scales: yes, they are a off-white color
Gills: are prominent and well spaced
Ring: hangs off the plant and is white with bits of yellow (better example in the photos below)

Appearance seems to fade out as the mushrooms progress through their life cycle.

Compare the younger mushroom (above) with the two older ones (below).



A basic search on the web, led us to believe these are Amanita frostiana mushrooms.

According to wiki, this genus contains some 600 species, including some of the most toxic mushrooms to be found around the globe.



Some of those well known species include:

Amanita muscaria - also called the fly agaric and fly amanita. They contain muscimol and ibotenic acid. Primarily found in the cap of the mushroom. It is these two compounds and their interactions with the body that cause the psychoactive (hallucinogenic) effects. We are merely citing wiki and related sites for information, and are not promoting human consumption of these mushrooms.



Two other infamous mushrooms for their toxicity are:

Amanita bisporigera and Amanita ocreata - Also called Destroying Angel, what a name right?

It contains amatoxin which inhibits RNA polymerase II and III (just nod like that means something to us). Symptoms do not appear for 5-24 hours when most of the toxin has been absorbed by the kidney and liver. And it is at this time that the damage is irreversible. As little as half a mushroom cap can be fatal. And these can be confused for the magic mushroom variety.

Amanita phalloides - Death Cap. I mean if the name itself doesn't drive a little fear into you you. This excerpt hopefully will.

And quote, "The death cap is one of the most poisonous mushrooms in the northern hemisphere. It grows throughout the entire temperate zone of Europe, Asia and North Africa. It was carried (probably with tree seedlings) to North America and Australia. This amanita is responsible for most mushroom poisonings, and even small doses can be very dangerous. Resistance to the poison varies among individuals, so specifying a fatal dose is difficult. The poison - amanitin, damages the liver and kidneys. Initial symptoms occur 8 to 48 hours after ingestion. In this phase, the person experiences fatigue, stomach nausea, dizziness, headaches and feelings of cold, even freezing. The nausea intensifies, stomach aches occur, accompanied by strong retching and watery diarrhea, leading to dehydration, and eventual circulatory failure. This is usually the immediate cause of death in children. If the patient survives this phase, his condition appears to improve (usually the fourth day after ingestion). In the second phase, the kidneys fail, and sometimes the liver as well. Death usually occurs four to twelve days after ingestion."

Call your local poison control. Better yet don't go foraging for wild mushrooms if you aren't a pro...



I don't believe these are Amanita mushrooms they are a lot smaller. But still pretty cool looking. I sort of gave up on researching these ones after doing a serious deep dive into the Amanita genus.

Artsy photos are easy. Looking through a ton of photos for, white small mushrooms with ring, less fun.

Here's, "the odd pair"



Calling this one, "the loner"



And this, "mushroom deep in thought"



Anyways like I said, I have no idea if these mushrooms are going to negatively impact our cannabis garden. But it was fun photographing and researching them.

Please be careful even just handling mushrooms. After researching the more poisonous ones, I went and washed my hands a couple times just for good measure.

Happy Growing!!!
MM's

Are there any smurfs hanging out in your garden to lol
 

Thundercat

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Mushrooms are a sign of a healthy growing environment. I personally would not try to remove or destroy them unless you're worried about kids or pets eating them. The mushroom is really just the fruit of the mycelium anyway so even if you did remove it, your just "picking the apple" so to say. The tree is still rooted in the soil and helping the soil eco-system. Soil growing is all about building that healthy web of life in the soil. Mushrooms are a great part of that.
 

bearded.beaver

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Paul Stamets is THE mushroom guy. He even wears a hat made out of mushroom. He has written quite a few books about mushrooms. He has even named a couple new species. He also discovered the medicinal qualities of a bunch of species. Just Google his name there are tons of videos on YouTube. If you want to know any thing about mushrooms, he has your answers
 

Mass Medicinals

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Very cool guys! I think this was a particularly wet season that made fall conditions optimal for mushrooms. We're not super into mushrooms. This was more or less just a fun tangent from cannabis due to the prevalence of the caps in and around the outdoor grow.
 

Lethidox

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nice i am growing mushrooms via a co2 bag in my grow room for co2 production. mushrooms are growing nice but first time growing them they are blue oyster mushrooms excited to see how it turns out because the instructions said just to leave the bag as is and not open it up or anything so not sure how the hell the mushrooms will break through the bag as shown in the videos. they are pretty big and leggy. they recieve light though because had to pull the tab out for the Co2 so im expecting them to wither away and die.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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cool pics. I get lots of "wood ear" mushrooms that grow on dead mango branches in my yard and are supposed to be choice eating, but I'm always scared to try them. Ever since I listened to PAul Stamets on the Joe Rogan Podcast, I've been really considering growing some edible (culinary) mushrooms on logs but I need to research the varieties that will do well in my climate.
that's funny...i didn't know who Paul Stamets was...but i knew who he was...they used his name on the new Star Trek series, it's the name of the chief engineer who is developing a mycellial (mushroom) powered, multi dimensional engine....
 
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