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Gom3z

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I’d love to see some fotos of heavily defoliated plants, big fan leaves removed, with massive, fist sized buds... to date, I have not seen anything that made me thing “WOW!!’”...

Take away all knowledge of growing plants... everything I’ve learned over the years, and still wouldn’t defoliate around my canopy. Lollipop for sure, but leave those food making fanleaf weapons alone. Not only does one deny that section/node the food it needs to grow to it’s potentially, you are harming/stressing the plant, thus, further reducing yield.

I love this debate, but don’t think it’s the heavy defoliators on one side (0) and the never defoliators (10) on the other. I think we are all mostly in the middle of the scale, I’m about a 7, as I occasionally removed a fan leaf when I don’t like the look of it, for whatever reason. But, I never care about buds being covered by big fan leaves, as long as the bud’s fanleaf has good light, as mentioned, noooooo problem.

Having to defoliate, to me, mostly is just an indicator that something is wrong in the environment or how one has grown their plant. Such as high humidity, bad airflow, too many plants etc

Thoughts?
 

Gom3z

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More like 4 weeks going by this pic..
Agreed. Nice plants though. From the eye, the tops look sweet, and a little less defoliated. The nodes that have been stripped of their big food factories look like they are struggling a bit... reckon you have some nice medicine nonetheless....

If it were me, I would have brought that canopy down, spread it out a bit more. That would essentially mitigate the need for removing leaves to allow more penetration to the buds below, because there would be no bud below, just dirt and airflow ;)
 
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Gom3z

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Any opinions welcome, im here to learn not to take the piss. Thanks for the advice
nice man. You could keep on with experiment perhaps and try with a flat low canopy with little defoliation... good luck man, reckon it’s looking good either way. As you say, we experiment, learn, and improve.
 

rhys2018

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nice man. You could keep on with experiment perhaps and try with a flat low canopy with little defoliation... good luck man, reckon it’s looking good either way. As you say, we experiment, learn, and improve.
Yeah thats it, ive got 1000w in a 1.2m tent with strong air flow and still going strong next time round will be a lot of lst involved ill keep you updated
 

Gom3z

Member
The one in picture is special queen #1...basic canna feed nothing else involved apart from the obvious
Nice one. Likewise, I find the canna basics really effective. The only thing I changed was to swap the boost for an affordable alternative, bud xl. Does the trick.

It’s interesting, all this talk of to defoliate or not, fine tuning systems, environments etc. It’s sll for nothing if you don’t have great genetics. As it goes, great genetics will still kick ass in a mediocre environment, but put average genetics in a perfect environment and it will leave one disappointed.

Thoughts?
 
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