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genuity

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Yoba Kenobi said:
Can’t even try to read the crap ole this thread has become. Very disorganized and chaotic. It seems like you were working that GG4 cross and read all the traffic as product interest and decided you want to start a seed company off that premise. Jumped the gun. Started a company based off a brand before you had a product and threw a bunch of autos out to keep intrest... it’s hectic. Price point is a bit high since they’re just chucks and force hermied feminized seeds that will be untested at product release that you’ve clearly stated you’ll giving them away for free to some growers. That's going to hinder startup sales. I’m against chuckers and half the breeders in the industry because they’re shortcuts and half ass methods are the con-artist practices that hinder the genetics industry. You also have way too much going on in my opinion as a start-up. I worry you may be misreading the fact you’ll be giving away seeds as a sustainable product interest/ traffic.
Have you finished testing the GG4 crosses as well?
I will say this. You possess the ability to do something incredibly vetted on a laser focused level. You can try and make the best cake seeds out. With your ability to publicly document breeding. Way too little pictures in here. A lot of these people are just here for the free seeds. You’re also putting a lot on the shoulders of your testers they might as well be your ambassadors but if they fail you fail. Your so early that’s your testing would be just as helpful at gaining interest. In all honesty you can selectively show your product and you don’t know if you can trust your testers. If I was you maybe pump the breaks. Get a journal going on the breeding and testing as well as that GG4 cross.
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You gonna learn today about this chucker...

I'm gonna have to Patent "chuckers"....jkjkjkjk
 
Hotwired

Hotwired

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I was into this whole female seed thing until the price per seed hit $10. Where is the promised savings? Greed runs strong in this business and no one is safe. Not a single seed has popped and the price went up from $60 a 10 pack (Heisen posted this a few weeks back) to $100 a ten pack (to cover "expenses" he says).

This is bullshit and when I smell shit I point my finger at the source. If these seeds work out you will be a millionaire by the end of next year. Cover your expenses my ass. Who else smells shit around here?
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Hotwired said:
I was into this whole female seed thing until the price per seed hit $10. Where is the promised savings? Greed runs strong in this business and no one is safe. Not a single seed has popped and the price went up from $60 a 10 pack (Heisen posted this a few weeks back) to $100 a ten pack (to cover "expenses" he says).

This is bullshit and when I smell shit I point my finger at the source. If these seeds work out you will be a millionaire by the end of next year. Cover your expenses my ass. Who else smells shit around here?
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I never wrote 10 for 60 ever.it was 7 for 60 12 for 100.
There is no reason to sell 12 seeds in a pack of fems.10 is plenty.
Everyone else sells these genetics for 150 a pack and in some cases 20 a piece for fems.6 packs for 100 to 120 EVERYWHERE.
If you seen the work and bullshit I'm having to go through including free shipping on all orders your complaint is rediculous.

Find me an Adub wedding cake or ecsd fem right now anywhere on the internet for less than 10 dollars a seed.first of all it dont even exist and second everyone sells 6 fem seed packs for 100 dollars out the door and you pay shipping.

If I went any lower considering the amount of fuckery I have to go through,wasted time,sorting through fake clones,the work in growing all this shit out.not to mention changing in and out of suits to pollinate,all the spraying and dude you have no idea the work that goes into this

If you find me a pack of fems with these genetics for less than 100 for 10 I'll send you a free pack of everything I have on the first drop.
 
blowincherrypie

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Heisenbeans said:
I never wrote 10 for 60 ever.it was 7 for 60 12 for 100.
There is no reason to sell 12 seeds in a pack of fems.10 is plenty.
Everyone else sells these genetics for 150 a pack and in some cases 20 a piece for fems.6 packs for 100 to 120 EVERYWHERE.
If you seen the work and bullshit I'm having to go through including free shipping on all orders your complaint is rediculous.

Find me an Adub wedding cake or ecsd fem right now anywhere on the internet for less than 10 dollars a seed.first of all it dont even exist and second everyone sells 6 fem seed packs for 100 dollars out the door and you pay shipping.

If I went any lower considering the amount of fuckery I have to go through,wasted time,sorting through fake clones,the work in growing all this shit out.not to mention changing in and out of suits to pollinate,all the spraying and dude you have no idea the work that goes into this

If you find me a pack of fems with these genetics for less than 100 for 10 I'll send you a free pack of everything I have on the first drop.
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fwiw I got 12 seeds in my pack of sherbhead from SOL and paid right around 100. I think a few pennies less maybe.. do I win? :lol:

7 seeds for 60 is a good deal imo.. especially with the freebies youre talking about. I'll definitely give you a shot!
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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blowincherrypie said:
fwiw I got 12 seeds in my pack of sherbhead from SOL and paid right around 100. I think a few pennies less maybe.. do I win? :lol:

7 seeds for 60 is a good deal imo.. especially with the freebies youre talking about. I'll definitely give you a shot!
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Yeah I'm talking about these genetics.not some back wood s1 pollen chuck pheno hunts and reverse pollinated moms from packs of seeds.

These are legit cuts and documented and photographed. You will be getting exactly what you see.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Serverchris said:
Idk about you but I think there should be a big price gap between untested s1's of unverified genetics and completely worked and stress tested lines from professional breeders.
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There is nothing unverified man.go back to page 1.Jesus christ.
And if you think the majority of breeders are stress testing there lines your delusional.
None of these seeds will be released or sold without the genetics being verified which I have been doing for months.

The seeds will be available. Either buy em or dont. There are plenty of other seed vendors that will sell you whatever they feel like selling you with whatever names they wanna put on the packs.
The mothers of 3 of the s1s I'm running are on the first page.
 
blowincherrypie

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Heisenbeans said:
Yeah I'm talking about these genetics.not some back wood s1 pollen chuck pheno hunts and reverse pollinated moms from packs of seeds.

These are legit cuts and documented and photographed. You will be getting exactly what you see.
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looking forward to it but sherbhead is LHB x Sunset Sherb from Rado.. I thought dude has a pretty extensive genetic library. Have you heard otherwise? Honest question, not rhetorical..

I think Eso said he got 13 seeds in his pack of 'Rado East Cake (Wedding cake x TK91)... but Ive also heard of some males being found so idk what the fucks going on nowdays lol
 
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Serverchris

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All the breeders I use stress test, wouldn't consider them a breeder if they didnt. Saying the guy you got your cuts from is legit is not verifying shit. Anyone can come on here and claim the same thing you have claimed and I guess that would mean they have verified their genetics?
 
quiescent

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blowincherrypie said:
looking forward to it but sherbhead is LHB x Sunset Sherb from Rado.. I thought dude has a pretty extensive genetic library. Have you heard otherwise? Honest question, not rhetorical..

I think Eso said he got 13 seeds in his pack of 'Rado East Cake (Wedding cake x TK91)... but Ive also heard of some males being found so idk what the fucks going on nowdays lol
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I got 14 in all 4 frozen margy packs, 14 and 15 in my tk91 release packs. 7 in my lemon tree packs for $80.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Serverchris said:
All the breeders I use stress test, wouldn't consider them a breeder if they didnt. Saying the guy you got your cuts from is legit is not verifying shit. Anyone can come on here and claim the same thing you have claimed and I guess that would mean they have verified their genetics?
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Lol you have no clue.the cuts I'm using have already been used extensively.one of them is the mother of the don mega which is a cup winner.
Doesn't matter how I got it or who gave it to me but I know its legit and she's mine.

Dont want em dont buy em. No one is gonna force you to
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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blowincherrypie said:
looking forward to it but sherbhead is LHB x Sunset Sherb from Rado.. I thought dude has a pretty extensive genetic library. Have you heard otherwise? Honest question, not rhetorical..

I think Eso said he got 13 seeds in his pack of 'Rado East Cake (Wedding cake x TK91)... but Ive also heard of some males being found so idk what the fucks going on nowdays lol
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Males in fems is sloppy and questions everything you buy from that breeder.

If anyone ever finds a Male in any of my fem packs I'll refund them 10 times the amount they paid.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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Serverchris said:
Like I said you still have no way or havent at this time verified anything to anyone but yourself. Customers are going to want legit proof that they are the cuts you claim them to be.
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Sorry I did not get birth certificates.

Look at the pictures and make your own educated guess.

Like I said dont want them dont buy them.
Wait for the pictures to start getting posted on the thread of what people are popping.
 
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Dustjesus

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What do you want? Certificate of authenticity? Lol. He has posted many pictures of the cuts he is using, with many more to come of his process in interest of transparency. Follow along if this project is of interest to you, if not? Well. Ya know.
 
genuity

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13 fem seeds of double up mints from seed junky/with a free pack of reg Ogee triangle $150(I think they advertise as 10 fem seeds tho)
12 for a 100 don't sound bad.

But it definitely looks like you are going the gu route..
You know,look em in the eyes,the cuts are real,release befor testing...
Just saying.

Find you a sack masterflex.
 
quiescent

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Heisenbeans said:
Males in fems is sloppy and questions everything you buy from that breeder.

If anyone ever finds a Male in any of my fem packs I'll refund them 10 times the amount they paid.
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There was definitely a huge mistake made with a rogue male. Obviously it shouldn't have been an issue.

I'm still going to buy packs of rado gear for everything he releases. People deserve second chances, maybe even thirds in some cases. He apologized, made it right to the best of his ability and I moved on.

Treat me right, put out fire and I'll forgive you for a mishap too. Had a steak sent back on me today for the first time in months. Made it right, took it out myself and apologized. I bet that group still comes back. We're all human.
 
Heisenbeans

Heisenbeans

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genuity said:
13 fem seeds of double up mints from seed junky/with a free pack of reg Ogee triangle $150(I think they advertise as 10 fem seeds tho)
12 for a 100 don't sound bad.

But it definitely looks like you are going the gu route..
You know,look em in the eyes,the cuts are real,release befor testing...
Just saying.

Find you a sack masterflex.
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Yeah but im also giving away a shit load of seeds for free with those packs and im eating the shipping cost.

These are also fems.guaranteed females. So in reality you would have to buy 2 packs of regs to get the same amount of fems.

I respect your opinion.

12 fems for 100 and 7 for 60 is where it's at and it's not changing.

These cats dont realize the amount of work going into sourcing cuts and keeping all this shit alive in a specific order.ive got a pallet of rapid rooters and hydroguard.fuk this shit lol.
Spraying 24 plants with CS everyday and pollinating another 240 plants separately and having to change clothes and shit and all the cross contamination measures.

Only a crazy person would take on this kind of shit
 
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